Ausvarg FL Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I'm very keen to take my Ridgie to lure coursing, but im just wondering if teaching him to chase may ruin his good behaviour around our cat and more importantly around our young children. I spent alot of time teaching Tye not to run and bound around the children as he did knock them over a few times. This may sound like a dumb question to some, but it is very important to me and advice would be appreiciated. Thanks Cassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonymc Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Cassie,for your benefit do a Google Search on Dog Leadership or perhaps read some Material by Jan Fennel or Cesar Milan. A Dog participating in Lure chasing in no way makes him or her more liable to be agressive towards Children especially if sound management of the Dog is carried out. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvarg FL Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 Cassie,for your benefit do a Google Search on Dog Leadership or perhaps read some Material by Jan Fennel or Cesar Milan. A Dog participating in Lure chasing in no way makes him or her more liable to be agressive towards Children especially if sound management of the Dog is carried out. Tony Crikey Tony I am not and have never been worried about agressivness in Tye Whenever he has knocked the kids over it has been purely accidental. He just had alot of boundless energy. See piccy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvarg FL Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 Cassie,for your benefit do a Google Search on Dog Leadership or perhaps read some Material by Jan Fennel or Cesar Milan. A Dog participating in Lure chasing in no way makes him or her more liable to be agressive towards Children especially if sound management of the Dog is carried out. Tony Crikey Tony I am not and have never been worried about agressivness in Tye Whenever he has knocked the kids over it has been purely accidental. He just had alot of boundless energy. See piccy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvarg FL Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) Cassie,for your benefit do a Google Search on Dog Leadership or perhaps read some Material by Jan Fennel or Cesar Milan. A Dog participating in Lure chasing in no way makes him or her more liable to be agressive towards Children especially if sound management of the Dog is carried out. Tony Crikey Tony I am not and have never been worried about agressivness in Tye Whenever he has knocked the kids over it has been purely accidental. He just had alot of boundless energy. See piccy. Edit so that nasty people can't ruin wonderful family memories Edited July 9, 2007 by Casvast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Q Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 actually i've been wondering about that to. my mums not so sure about lure coursing because she thinks it might increase a dogs prey drive. we wouldn't put harry in it, eventhough he loves to run. he doesn't need to be put in full drive then sent out on his own. we think mac would like it though, she has huge energy levels and she can easily focus on something if its moving fast enough for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 We go to lure coursing occasionally, and we have 2 cats, it hasnt made them chase the cats. If the cats had a plastic bag tied around them might be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have done lure coursing with both my dogs and I cant see if that has changed them in any way. But I ahve only done it couple of times so far. My girl is absolutly obsessed about it now. Also Casvast - lovely pics. But pls dont put a child on the dogs back, it can damage the dogs spine, and if done frequently ( ie the kid riding the dog for fun) creates back problems for the dog later in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 With my dally the fun of lure coursing is the running not killing the plastic bag. She is very obssessed with the chase but when the bag stops she sniffs it and comes back to me. This dog is a great hunter of mice and lizards but it has not changed her attitude to kids or cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noisymina Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Only took mine lure coursing a couple of times to try out. All it did was make her turn into an idiot every time I put the rubbish out - in the plastic bag. She still does it. Sometimes it is so bad the boys come out asking what is wrong with her. I thing it is quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Only took mine lure coursing a couple of times to try out.All it did was make her turn into an idiot every time I put the rubbish out - in the plastic bag. She still does it. Sometimes it is so bad the boys come out asking what is wrong with her. I thing it is quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypaws Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 I had this same question asked of me yesterday at the dog park in regards to an Aussie that was interested in coming. I replied as thus: My greyhound lives with small fluffy white dogs and a cat. Lure coursing has not changed her behaviour at all with them or increased her prey drive. Believe me, if it put my other animals at risk I would not take her. I think of it as an outlet for an instinct that they already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonymc Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Layka,you really hit the Nail on the Head with the last line of your Post. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Lure coursing hasn't negatively affected our dogs' behaviour around our cat (the dogs are an afghan and salukis). As someone else said, maybe if we tied a white plastic bag around the cat's neck they might make the connection, but obviously we won't be doing that!! They already have prey drive, lure coursing is an excellent opportunity for them to exercise that drive in a totally appropriate way. I think there is not a lot of point having a hound if you never let it do houndy things. I don't know about other people's dogs, but ours also recognise a lure coursing field set up, and behave differently there than when they are at home. I'd be more concerned about allowing your kids to think that sitting on dogs is OK - I'd stop that immediately. I know it looks cute but it's bad for the dog's back and gives kids potentially dangerous ideas about what they can do around dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noisymina Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Only took mine lure coursing a couple of times to try out. All it did was make her turn into an idiot every time I put the rubbish out - in the plastic bag. She still does it. Sometimes it is so bad the boys come out asking what is wrong with her. I thing it is quite funny. Yeh - I think she goes into "prey dive". :D We get it over carrots, too, these days. Can't say she has taken to the cats, tho. She lives with two of them and she actually tends to be the peacekeeper when they have "disagreements". They all scoobie together of an afternoon - the cats run out and ambush her - and she just ignores them. ;) I agree - a well adjusted dog will have fun at lure coursing and it won't change their behaviour in any significant way. I have friends who take their dog lure coursing and it has been wonderful for that dog-it was a rescue and is not good at socialising with other dogs and is very wary of people. It gives it an outing and the exercise it needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausvarg FL Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share Posted June 23, 2007 Lure coursing hasn't negatively affected our dogs' behaviour around our cat (the dogs are an afghan and salukis). They already have prey drive, lure coursing is an excellent opportunity for them to exercise that drive in a totally appropriate way. I don't know about other people's dogs, but ours also recognise a lure coursing field set up, and behave differently there than when they are at home. I Thanks for the advice The rest of it was Blah Blah Blah Not much Lion hunting going on around here, he couldnt do it any way because i'm so stupid I let the kids ride him all day long so now he has a bad back. So like you said whats the point in having him. Ps thanks for making me feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Q Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 i think mac woudl love it, it would give her a vent for her energy to just let her bolt like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozzie Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Lure coursing significantly increased drive in one of my dogs and not the other. I guess it depends on the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The rest of it was Blah Blah BlahNot much Lion hunting going on around here, he couldnt do it any way because i'm so stupid I let the kids ride him all day long so now he has a bad back. So like you said whats the point in having him. Ps thanks for making me feel :shakehead: than its that us old timers attack newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks for the advice The rest of it was Blah Blah Blah Not much Lion hunting going on around here, he couldnt do it any way because i'm so stupid I let the kids ride him all day long so now he has a bad back. So like you said whats the point in having him. Ps thanks for making me feel That wasn't intended as a flame - just info. If I didn't care on some level about your dog and your kids I wouldn't have said anything. If you hadn't had a hound I probably wouldn't have said something either, I'm just more inclined to reply to hound posts because hounds interest me more. There's no middle eastern gazelle or snow leopard hunting around my neck of the woods either. By letting them do "houndy" things I mean letting them do things like lure coursing where they get to run after their quarry - finding a modern substitute for the things that make them really come alive. Bit like taking a herding breed to herding classes, or taking a terrier to an earthdog event. There are some dog experts who don't agree with me by the way, I think Susan Garrett dismisses the notion that you should let dogs do what they were bred to do. As to the back issue, I have done things things that are not in my dog's best interests a number of times while learning. Making a mistake or doing something that other doggy people don't approve of is not something to be ashamed of. In dog world you will always find someone who thinks you're doing the wrong thing. Up to you whether you decide they're full of it or not. Best wishes to you and your ridgie boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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