leopuppy04 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) Does she look at you when she has a 'gay' tail? What else does she do? I am thinking of when I had to do some training with K - who pranced and heeled in the ring (this was before she even knew heel!) coz she was just *so* happy to be out and about I found this to be a big help http://www.dragonflyllama.com/%20DOGS/Writing/confgait.html Edited June 18, 2007 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Well, I've just learnt something from this post! It's not hard,I don't know much. Not being experienced with BC's I was walking some relatively unsocialised BC working dogs on a friends property. They were away so I let the 2 BC and a young lab off for a walk. I do know these dogs a little so had my little 2 as well. On the 2nd day one BC was on a long lead as he does like to move the cows about. I was watching him follow one little male dog about. All the other dogs I know normally have upright happy waving tails. So the fact that his tail seemed low and tucked in made me doubt his intentions. Maybe I owe him a sorry! as he was as good as gold really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seita Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 JulesP - I will take that into consideration as well, at the moment we are still working out what speed I need to run at to get her to gait right. I'm just jogging at the moment because if I start running faster she breaks gait, but that's just a training thing which I expect she'll get over as she gets more comfortable with gaiting. Erny - I'm not sure my being relaxed is going to work that well... I took her to a show on the weekend, in her first show she kept her tail down the whole time (I was nervous), by the second show I was more relaxed and her tail went up! Maybe I need to act nervous!!! I will have to try this out tomorrow, see if she gaits right with her tail up or not... I guess I can't start training anything till I know exactly what it is that makes her put her tail up. I know that when I take her cycling, she gaits along beside me quite calmly with her tail down, but when I heel her around the backyard her tail is up. Might have to do some tests in a few different locations so determine when she does it! LP - basically, I think it's when she's excited that her tail goes up, whether she's looking at me or not (that is something we are fixing too). Skip - yeh, according the the breed standard the border collie's tail is usually kept low with a slight swirl at the end. It may be raised when excited but should not be carried over it's back. When you see a true working border collie it will always have it's kept nice and low as it works, I suppose it would probably put the sheep off it it was flying around over it's back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Makes sense that the tail was down because you were nervous! You made doggie worried so tail down. BC are usually very in tune with their owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyBeggs Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Not really helpful...... but my bc waves his tail up like a flag and I love it......he looks so happy!!! He only ever holds it down when stalking something......like sheep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatelina Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 High Tail carriage in Border Collies is usually caused by an incorrect croup set.Yes they can be trained but it takes a lot of work and consistency. One word of caution do not use the word "Tail" its a dead set giveaway in the show ring. You would be marked down for that?? :S Isn't it a show of 'teamwork' between dog and owner and good training if it's taught to do something difficult like that? Or does everything have to be all natural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 High Tail carriage in Border Collies is usually caused by an incorrect croup set. Yes they can be trained but it takes a lot of work and consistency. One word of caution do not use the word "Tail" its a dead set giveaway in the show ring. You would be marked down for that?? :S Isn't it a show of 'teamwork' between dog and owner and good training if it's taught to do something difficult like that? Or does everything have to be all natural? Its showing not obedience The judge doesnt care about teamwork, only the dog. If you are trying to train a dog to avoid showing its faults you are not going to be praised for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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