BC Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I had a regular client tonight who has just bought a new puppy. She asked me to give her some advise as her puppy keeps weeing on her bed and pooing under the bed. I did not know what to suggest apart from the obvious, dont let puppy on the bed and make sure you take out for regular toilet breaks. She wants the puppy on her bed and takes her out to the toilet frequently so I did not know what else to tell her. Just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions I might be able to give to her as she is sick of washing the doona every couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryamartimmy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 If she wants the dog on the bed, why doesn't she get a canvas crate at first and make sure that the dog sleeps in that for the first few weeks. They don't like to wee where they sleep/play etc, so she'll have a better chance of toilet training the puppy this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy TWD Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I had a regular client tonight who has just bought a new puppy.She asked me to give her some advise as her puppy keeps weeing on her bed and pooing under the bed. I did not know what to suggest apart from the obvious, dont let puppy on the bed and make sure you take out for regular toilet breaks. She wants the puppy on her bed and takes her out to the toilet frequently so I did not know what else to tell her. Just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions I might be able to give to her as she is sick of washing the doona every couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 How much is the pup in the bedroom unsupervised?? If she wants the pup to sleep on the bed, does she get up EVERY time it gets restless at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy TWD Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I had a regular client tonight who has just bought a new puppy.She asked me to give her some advise as her puppy keeps weeing on her bed and pooing under the bed. I did not know what to suggest apart from the obvious, dont let puppy on the bed and make sure you take out for regular toilet breaks. She wants the puppy on her bed and takes her out to the toilet frequently so I did not know what else to tell her. Just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions I might be able to give to her as she is sick of washing the doona every couple of days This is Andy The Wonder Dog!. a thought, how old is this little person? Little babies do tend to wee and poo very close to their box cause mum always cleans it up. If this person is very young, it has not learnt that it should not do it. If you need to teach it, just make sure that it's box is not in the bed. All good little people when they are aware, will not make a mess in their beds. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 I dont think she is as regular with the toilet breaks as she says. (After all, when I went into her house to get Coco, she was asleep on her bed with the TV on. No wonder the puppy wees on the bed) Her other dog I groom is an older outside dog, who I have now talked her into having inside of a night as he is older and has a very fine coat. As far as I know she has not had experience with toilet training a dog, so I think I'll have a really good chat to her about it in the next week when I see her again. Thanks, I thought it was the obvious but just wanted to make sure as I've never had this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Leadership issue perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Possibly a dominance Issue ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Perhaps more of a bladder strength issue at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Age doesn't have anything to do with it. Puppies show dominance when they're in their litters and if they don't have a leader in the house then they automatically assume the role, dogs are pack animals and that's what they do. Edited June 9, 2007 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I don't deny pups exhibit dominance behaviour at 8 weeks, but from the info provided it sounded to me like the pup needed to be taken outside on a regular basis, trained where to toilet and praised profusely. I don't really think that a puppy toileting inappropriately is a sign of being dominant - inadequate toilet training on the owner's behalf? Definitely. Leadership problems in the future - certainly possible. IMO of course :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Have to agree with "spotted devil". Deal with the obvious first. Baby puppies wee often and without a lot of warning more times than not. How often is this baby being toileted and does the owner wake up as soon as the puppy moves during the night? What is being done to establish good toileting habits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 The poster said she does take her out often to the toilet. Toileting on a bed is usually a sign of something else other than just being a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) I dont think she is as regular with the toilet breaks as she says. (After all, when I went into her house to get Coco, she was asleep on her bed with the TV on. No wonder the puppy wees on the bed) Her other dog I groom is an older outside dog, who I have now talked her into having inside of a night as he is older and has a very fine coat. As far as I know she has not had experience with toilet training a dog, so I think I'll have a really good chat to her about it in the next week when I see her again.Thanks, I thought it was the obvious but just wanted to make sure as I've never had this problem. We'll just have to agree to disagree, sas :rolleyes: ETA: Just because humans recognise the whole piece of furniture as our "bed" doesn't mean the puppy does. At this stage, I would think the puppy is using a bit for sleeping and a bit for toileting - just the same as if it was allowed full run of the house without supervision. Edited June 9, 2007 by The Spotted Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Spot on ! (lol at the pun) If a puppy's crate is too big they will do the same thing - sleep and eat in one spot and toilet in another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I dont think she is as regular with the toilet breaks as she says. (After all, when I went into her house to get Coco, she was asleep on her bed with the TV on. No wonder the puppy wees on the bed) Her other dog I groom is an older outside dog, who I have now talked her into having inside of a night as he is older and has a very fine coat. As far as I know she has not had experience with toilet training a dog, so I think I'll have a really good chat to her about it in the next week when I see her again. Thanks, I thought it was the obvious but just wanted to make sure as I've never had this problem. We'll just have to agree to disagree, sas ETA: Just because humans recognise the whole piece of furniture as our "bed" doesn't mean the puppy does. At this stage, I would think the puppy is using a bit for sleeping and a bit for toileting - just the same as if it was allowed full run of the house without supervision. Yeah, ah, I think you're missing the bigger picture here. There are some great books out there that will help you further your knowledge of what puppies and dogs do understand and what has been proved in clinical studies. One such book is 'How Dogs Think', there are many more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Spot on ! (lol at the pun) If a puppy's crate is too big they will do the same thing - sleep and eat in one spot and toilet in another. That's actually completely different, you have confined a dog to a crate, it has no choice. A crate of the size where a dog can only stand and turn around is best as of course dogs don't like to toilet where they sleep. Provide a bigger crate where the dog has plently of room, it is likely to toilet on the far side of the crate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frufru Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Sas, why are you so certain that inadequate toilet training does not explain this behaviour? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 (edited) Sas, why are you so certain that inadequate toilet training does not explain this behaviour? Just curious. Because it's toileting on the owners bed, the dog knows that's where the owner sleeps. Dogs who aren't toilet trained properly or aren't being taken out enough don't generally choose to jump up on a bed to toilet. Toileting on an owners bed and clothing is a pretty good sign that you need to look a little deeper. I'm certainly not the type of person who chucks around the term 'dominance' as an answer for everything, but I do think the dog is confused as to where it stands in this relationship. Edited June 11, 2007 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Sas, I can see where you're coming from - thanks for clearing that up. The OP seemed to be saying (I could be wrong) that the puppy was sleeping on the owner's bed all night without being taken out for proper toilet breaks - in my mind it would be quite difficult for a young puppy to navigate it's way off the bed to an appropriate toileting area and thus the habit forms of weeing on the bed and in the general area. Then the puppy keeps returning to the same spot because it 'smells right'. I think the owner will need some serious training if this situation is to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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