Darkrai Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Oh Sivvy JAG and Capansh i need ur help..... :rolleyes: Ok so im half way throu cutting ali into coninental but heres my prob.... I HATE ROSETTES!!!!!!!!!!! But i know a clean smooth bum is aceptable in the ring should i or shouldn't i is more of the question as i dont know how to trim rosettes into shape from the mess of a the puppy trim :cool: Any suggestions......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrai Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Oh well to late as all ways Ali is now i lion trim not Contiental Rosettte just didn't work out and JAG u know my patience when i comes to grooming poodle if it;s in the way it comes off Oh well his off to the groomers tomorrow and then for a trimming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazz Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 oooohhhh nooooo me likes rosettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Do we get 'before' and 'after' pics ? ETA: Please? Edited June 7, 2007 by Poodle wrangler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Ya gotta have Rosettes Palane, Ali will freeze his kidneys off without them. Its too blinkin cold. Here is Ali guys, lovely short back and continental with Rosettes would look fab on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whateverr Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 he has a naked bum palane got the shits with him and the rosette poofy things came off don't be nasty to him sivvy when you see him next He or i will post pics tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrai Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 well actually sivvy a poodle can be shown with rosettes or non it all in the wording of the breed standard alot of standard well under 20% in europe more england are shown this way what can i say his my breeding n my dog now should have cut him out when you had the chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Grant Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Oh no! Forget the rosettes and go for the English Saddle! (next time) Only a bit more work and muuuuuuch nicer. ;) Next time we will have to have an online poll to deside what clip to go for! Ali will freeze his kidneys off without them. Its too blinkin cold. Hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrai Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 ok seen the before pic now the well now pic as of about an hr ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Front needs to be higher up the leg, and back of the pack needs to come back further near the last rib, otherwise pretty good. Except the rosettes, I may have to kill you ;) Nah, pretty good job, first trim always turns out wrong then you can fix from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrai Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 oh well i thought that was the last rib oh well i know where i want to grow it back too thou Oh i was going for the 20's version of the really heavy coat ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) I'm with Siv on this one. You need to grow the coat back to his last rib as he looks unbalanced. Probably about an inch at a guess?? When he starts to get some of his pack back (the hair on his rump) find a bowl or lid that is roughly the size you want then make a template from it. Preferably from plastic so it looks like a ring. Use this as a guide and place it on his rump to see where it would look best. I think from memory you should have about a clipper blade witdth on a standard along the spine. Obviously this varies with the size of the dog. Standard people please feel free to correct me as I only deal with the little guys Place your template with the middle being over the hip bone. Then decide if this will look balanced. If not the adjust your template forward backwards up down whatever to try and give the right look of balance. With the little guys I usually use a cup and twist it into their hair to leave a ring and then decide if it is the correct size shape etc. Always make them bigger so you can take bits off. Way too difficult to grow it back when it is gone..... Hey Palane??? Edited June 8, 2007 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 How funny, when Palane rang me I told him the same only I told him to use those silver egg thingys that you fry eggs with The rosettes dont need to be as big as some standard ppl do them, you can have them as small as you want. This come from an all breeds judge, and yes she owned and bred standards too. Cmon Palane, do it for your country, grow dem back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Yeah the egg thinggy!! That'll work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I love this thread! I adore the standard especially in show clip...but all that work - you lot are amazingly dedicated. I also appreciate the short wash 'n' wear coat on my lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkrai Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 yeah after i looked at the pics i noticed i needed to grow the coat back about an inch or more, i have an idea where i want to grow them back tooo... Pfft stuff that if im showing him my dog my breeding i'll show him rosetteeless and i'll keep him that way till his a CH hopefully more ppl will follow in my brain washing program hehhehhehahahhahahahhhmmwawhhwhwhwhwhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa im so evil either that or i'll shave him off and he can be a house dog Sivvy dear tthey are called egg rings The rosettes dont need to be as big as some standard ppl do them, you can have them as small as you want. Rosette sizes are normally determinded by the dog, the size the rosettes to counter balance (optical illusion) the lenght of the dog.... well that what load i was told ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 yeah after i looked at the pics i noticed i needed to grow the coat back about an inch or more, i have an idea where i want to grow them back tooo...Pfft stuff that if im showing him my dog my breeding i'll show him rosetteeless and i'll keep him that way till his a CH hopefully more ppl will follow in my brain washing program hehhehhehahahhahahahhhmmwawhhwhwhwhwhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa im so evil ;) either that or i'll shave him off and he can be a house dog :D Sivvy dear tthey are called egg rings The rosettes dont need to be as big as some standard ppl do them, you can have them as small as you want. Now now Palane don't give up to easilly... Rosette sizes are normally determinded by the dog, the size the rosettes to counter balance (optical illusion) the lenght of the dog.... well that what load i was told Isn't that what I said?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Now now Palane don't give up to easilly... Rosette sizes are normally determinded by the dog, the size the rosettes to counter balance (optical illusion) the lenght of the dog.... well that what load i was told Isn't that what I said?? ;) :D Ya just gotta luv it Just saying that some ppl have them so big, you dont really need them big at all. When you think of it this way, you dont need rosettes so why would you need them to be a certain size???????? Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffshih Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Poor Ali he is going to freeze with his bare bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Hope his danglies don't get frost bite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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