TessaBella Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Any advice on teaching drop on the run? I've tried the 'drop' command whilst walking, but unless I stand still, she doesn't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 usually i only drop on the run if i fall n a hole lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TessaBella Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Not very helpful though I'm afraid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 sorry couldnt resist that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 i ataught it initially in the loung with toy using pretend throw asking for a drop thent hrowing the toy as a rewrd you could use food but my dog had an excellent drop to begin wit first make sure your dog will drop on vice or cue and even if your sitting standing back turned etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) could be wrong but i thought the drop was gereally taught on the move...similar to stand you do drop and then bring ya left leg up to stop after they are in the drop?!?!?! ETA or do you mean drop on recall? Edited May 16, 2007 by sammy_ballerina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Confused, do you mean dropping in the heel position when you are going quicker or drop on recall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TessaBella Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 I intend to do agility, so I was thinking for the pause box. So, drop on recall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 wheres my rock had a good suggestion with the toy - I am doing this with Kaos with his drive work. With Zoe I started off by walking slowly and giving the drop command, and slowly increase speed til you can do it on the run. Out of the commands, drop is easiest to do this with. You want to have a very good drop first, probably on voice only as it will be easier than giving hand signals when you are running. If you are teaching for an obstacle only - you could teach go to that obstacle and then drop in/on that obstacle (I think in agility it is usually a table, not a box? It is a box in obedience though). That way you would combine the two and eventually give just the one command. I initially taught Zoe a sit on the table (I think it has to be drop now, didn't know that before) - I would do 'Table' for her to get on the table, then 'Sit' once on the table (you would do drop). Dogs are very good at anticipation and if you always give those commands in that order, your dog will string them together and get on the table/in box and drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TessaBella Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks Kavik. I missed the bit about the toy. It may be a table. I haven't started agility yet. I haven't even gone to formal obedience classes Can't afford it at the moment She's not old enough for agility anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenb Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 If you are teaching for an obstacle only - you could teach go to that obstacle and then drop in/on that obstacle (I think in agility it is usually a table, not a box? It is a box in obedience though). That way you would combine the two and eventually give just the one command. I initially taught Zoe a sit on the table (I think it has to be drop now, didn't know that before) - I would do 'Table' for her to get on the table, then 'Sit' once on the table (you would do drop). Dogs are very good at anticipation and if you always give those commands in that order, your dog will string them together and get on the table/in box and drop. I am pretty sure that it is only a 5 second pause with no position specified in the ANKC rules. ADAA rules may differ. I just have my dog stand on the table. The directed jump in obedience requires a sit in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 usually i only drop on the run if i fall n a hole lol well.... that - or if someone is fireing at me I seem to remember to drop pretty quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks Kavik. I missed the bit about the toy. It may be a table. I haven't started agility yet. I haven't even gone to formal obedience classes Can't afford it at the moment She's not old enough for agility anyway. TB - It really depends on what you mean as a drop on the move. For a pause table in agility - I get my dog to stand on it.... I find it easier (although a couple of times he has skidded straight off the table!). Perhaps in terms of the table - start with your dog being sent to a mat and waiting there for 5 seconds. Initially - just accept a stand - then lure them into a drop once they are reliably going to the mat. When they have been 'shown' how to drop on a mat immediately after arriving there - try and fade that cue out - wait a bit and see if they will 'anticipate' - if she does - reward heavily. This worked great with my girl and she now charges over to the mat and seems to arrive and drop at the same time .... everything with her is at top speed . Gradually increase your distance *away* from the mat and use a command such as 'mat' or something to get her there. In terms of a drop on recall - what WMR said - pretend you are throwing a toy and ask her to drop first. Make it easy as she may be a little confused. If she doesn't comply - come in a little closer, show her the hand signal, help her until she gets it and then gently praise (but don't throw the toy).... I do this to reassure that yes, this is what I want. Next go - try it a little closer. Vary where you ask her to drop also - try and get some distance between you and the dog. Try not to worry (at the moment) if they creep, but ALWAYS throw the reward *behind* them (ie, throw the toy/food) - so the reward doesn't come directly from you. I find this solves the creeping on its own, but I try not to correct it immediately as both times when I did that, both dogs got confused as they weren't sure whether or not I wanted the drop. So wait until they are 100% confident about 'dropping' before you attack creeping . I will ask them to drop at any stage during a walk and that also helps. Even if they are bringing a toy back they may have to drop etc,etc. In terms of drop in heel position slow down your steps and take smaller steps *before* showing her to drop. This will help her there ;) Pull your shoulders back if she is coming out of position Sorry -wasn't sure what drop you meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I am pretty sure that it is only a 5 second pause with no position specified in the ANKC rules. ADAA rules may differ. I just have my dog stand on the table. Many do - the advantage (IMO) being that the dog is up and ready to go on signal, and precious additional seconds are not lost (when trialling). However, there are some dogs that are so hyper and rearing to go, that the larger risk is a 'foul' with the dog breaking before the 5 seconds are up. For these dogs, something like a drop on the table is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdude Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Another good way to teach drop on recall, is to teach them to firstly do a full recall over multiple low barriers. When you first introduce the drop, you start by asking for it close to you, drop them at the last board (which discourages them from creeping), then walk to them and return to heel and reward. As you progress, recall them after the drop, and vary which board you drop them at. The boards also encourages them to take off fast on the second recall (to clear the jumps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TessaBella Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks everyone. I think I understand. Leo you actually answered a few more questions that I had. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks everyone. I think I understand. Leo you actually answered a few more questions that I had. Thanks. LOL Great! I'm a mind reader I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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