A New Stafford Puppy

[Danois]

Hey!

I know it is not Surry Hills but Sydney Animal Hospital in Erskineville runs a puppy pre-school on Wednesday nights - over 4 weeks. All about socialising.

Must have had first injection. I believe early socialisation outweighs the risks of parvo especially with dogs which are perceived as dangerous.

Kylie the trainer was fantastic!

Hopefully you will bring pups down to Sydney Park on weekend afternoons (4pm, the flat area in from the chimney stacks is the most popular) once they are vaccinated. There is always staffies there and it is great for socialising them. Pet Barn in Alexandria (opposite Vic Basement) is a fantastic place for stocking up and the people there are great and very knowledgeable.

I am no expert but I know that I would have had a basket case on my hands if I had waited 16 weeks to get Angus out and about.

Good Luck!

[Danois]

swaY.....

[SwaY]

swaY..... :p

Ello

[northern]

ifs shes a douge de bordoux x english she is also a english mastiff x douge de bourdoux......same f@*&ing thing

besides you clealy have a prob with me as i cant stand the thought of cageing a pet, and i really dont give a shit

[SwaY]

I made no coment on crate training, you would see that if you read the thread.

I asked a simple question since you have called your dog 3 different mix of breeds.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Teebs]

Maybe you need to do some research on things - There are things i dont like, yet wont comment on because I have never researched it properly.

I was asking about breeds because in one thread you called the dog a MAstiff, in another, a DDB - I wasnt sure what breed of dog you had, you mentioned 2 breeds, so didnt know if it was one dog, or two dogs

No need to get on your high horse and swear

Once again i ask: Do you know what it is (crate training)? Tell me what you think it means, what is the routine for a dog who is crate trained?

[shoemonster]

We took Ed to puppy school and started obedience at a club after his 2nd vaccs, after speaking to the vet we decided it was a justifiable risk fora breed that needs lots of socialisation (every breed needs it but just staffords are under so much pressure already)

[shoemonster]

For Eileen http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?...264&st=3015

Come over here!

[Eileen]

oh, just saw the photo! where are you getting it from?

She is coming from the Pennyflower kennel in Junee. She's certainly not cheap, but I really wanted to make sure she was a purebred, as we live in hte inner city, and I didn't want to risk getting a dog with suspect breeding.

[RedStafford]

oh, just saw the photo! where are you getting it from?

She is coming from the Pennyflower kennel in Junee. She's certainly not cheap, but I really wanted to make sure she was a purebred, as we live in hte inner city, and I didn't want to risk getting a dog with suspect breeding.

Hi there! definitely worth paying the money for the real thing, well done! we did the same, we have a young child so we wanted to know what we were getting! as it turns out i've now started to show her, but initially our only thoughts were as a pet...

As almost everyone else has said, crate train her. do some searches on crate training here and using google and you will find heaps of info. If you do it right there is not even a concern with it being remotely cruel or unfair in anyway and it will help you pup be "balanced" our pup sleeps in her crate beside our bed and she loves it! good luck with it all! and we'll see you in the stafford thread with lots and lots of photo's! we dont see many blue pups posted over there!

Edited to fix the quoting

Edited May 14, 2007 by RedStafford

[ReXy]

congrats and welcome to the forum come on over tot he stafford thread

the 2 most valuable pieces i got when i got my stafford pup was crate train and socialise.. i strongly believe in both, i have a well adjusted social dog who loves everyone.. and he loveees his crate, i have to kick him out in the mornings..lol he puts himself to bed he only goes in there when i go to bed at night after hes done the rounds and checked on all the kids and made sure everyone is safe he is a part off the family and spends his time with us. also made toilet training much easier. how do u know a young pups not going to wander off and pee soemwhere during the night. there are so many advantages for crate training i dont see any negatives at all..

[Eileen]

Thanks everyone, that's very helpful. I will look into sourcing some information on crate training.

[R00]

For a balanced view on Socialisation take a read of this

http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?...l=socialisation

I use a combination of this and what most others would consider socialisation. I want my dog to consider other dogs as neutral. IMO one of the flaws (if you could call it that ) of the staffy is that the bloody breed just loves everyone and everything about life and in 99.999999% of cases just loves other dogs too much.

Cheers

Roo

PS Definatly get a crate, Erik was the first dog I used one on and I will never be without one. He loves it.

PPS Make sure you come over the 'real' dog thread http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?...p;#entry1740160

[Poodle wrangler]

Not all DOL threads have nasties in them . There's lots to learn here and support, too.

I got a crate for our second dog, but found he toilet trained quickly without it and is not a "chewer". We have a child-dog friendly house with tiles in living areas and no precious furniture, so accidents were not going to be catastrophic. I found I just didn't want to use it. It's certainly not cruel and is not meant to be used as a cage to lock your dog into for many hours. My 3 year old has spent more time in the crate (playing "house") . Don't call DOCs, I'm not caging the kids .

Do some reading about crate training, think about the situation at your place, then decide. The crate becomes the dog's den and dogs naturally don't want to soil their den, so it facilitates toilet training. You can always sell a crate or donate to a local rescue if you don't find it's for you. Crates can be bought for < $100 for staffy size. Mine's for sale, but too big for staffy . I use another crate (from airline travel) for pup in the car until he gets used to it. Newspaper + hose it out if any accidents or car sickness, too easy .

Edited May 15, 2007 by Poodle wrangler

[Eileen]

Not all DOL threads have nasties in them :D . There's lots to learn here and support, too.

I got a crate for our second dog, but found he toilet trained quickly without it and is not a "chewer". We have a child-dog friendly house with tiles in living areas and no precious furniture, so accidents were not going to be catastrophic. I found I just didn't want to use it. It's certainly not cruel and is not meant to be used as a cage to lock your dog into for many hours. My 3 year old has spent more time in the crate (playing "house") . Don't call DOCs, I'm not caging the kids .

Do some reading about crate training, think about the situation at your place, then decide. The crate becomes the dog's den and dogs naturally don't want to soil their den, so it facilitates toilet training. You can always sell a crate or donate to a local rescue if you don't find it's for you. Crates can be bought for < $100 for staffy size. Mine's for sale, but too big for staffy :p . I use another crate (from airline travel) for pup in the car until he gets used to it. Newspaper + hose it out if any accidents or car sickness, too easy .

Thanks that's great. I might just wait and see. We've bought her an outside dog house for when I go back to work that has a door on it so we can use that, I think, for the crate training if we decide to do that. We dont need to start that immediately, do we? But I want her to get comfy in the dog house, so we have that in the lounge room.

I am very excited about her coming to stay. Most staffies I have seen are extremely obedient (certainly compared to our old Jack Russell) so I am not sure 100% sure why she would need the crate training. But if it is to make her feel secure, then maybe that's a good idea.

[Teebs]

I am very excited about her coming to stay. Most staffies I have seen are extremely obedient (certainly compared to our old Jack Russell) so I am not sure 100% sure why she would need the crate training. But if it is to make her feel secure, then maybe that's a good idea.

:D

Come meet mine, i cant change your mind! :p

Crates are good not only for untrained naughty dogs, but for different situations - if your dog needs to travel somewhere, if your dog is sick and needs time at the vets, or time in a crate to recover (my old vets loved my dogs staying, they were one of the few who didnt scream all day, and who didnt mess in the cages while there) . there are 100s of reasons to use it, and for the sake of a few weeks training, you have asafe place for your dog for the rest of its life.

When i traveled mine also stayed in their crates at night, one night in the car, the other in a hotel we managed to get a place to stay, dogs allowed if crate trained.

[ellz]

Personally, I'd be crate training from the get-go. It's a lot easier (and quieter) to crate train a small puppy than an older dog which already has opinions. And believe me....most Staffords have very STRONG opinions!!!!

[terror x 3]

haha what a funny thread....it starts off with a simple parvo question and turns into an argument haha priceless!

good luck with ur new baby she looks adorable cant wait to see more pics!

[Teebs]

Personally, I'd be crate training from the get-go. It's a lot easier (and quieter) to crate train a small puppy than an older dog which already has opinions. And believe me....most Staffords have very STRONG opinions!!!!

Dont they ever!! :)

I tried to take At for a walk the other day, and leave kaos at home - she nearly knocked the door down :p

Needles to say, she came for the walk

[Tracie]

How exciting for you! I have myself just become the possession of a stafford pup also from a reputable breeder up north. Vader isnt my first taste of stafford-parenthood and will by no means be my last. They are an absolute essential to my being!! One thing that I would like to impart onto you is the fact that Staffords thrive as an excepted member of the family and even moreso when they understand their position in the pack. This means simply that you must from word 'go' have the upper hand. Treat her with no more cuddles than you feel you will be able to give her in the comming weeks when life returns to normal. This is where owners get into trouble and pups start to pine for the lack of attention. Holes gets dug and as staffords are very emotional animals they can start to fret which may, worst case scenario, bring on skin problems etc. They are very predisposed to this type of emotional onset. i cannot stress to you enough the importance to socialise her immediately through a puppy kindy. This is essential. Staffords do have dog dominance tendancies if left un subjected to various situations such as face to face with strange dogs and sharing of food and toys. Parvo stays in the environment for 10yrs dormant but it is still there. DO NOT allow your pup to atend the kindy there under any circumstances. I wouldnt risk it. My veterinary Nursing background with a renowned animal shelter had taught me so much about the dreaded parvo. Unless the place remove a heap of soil that is contaminated on their sight I wouldnt take my pup there, the chnces of him getting it are very high-regadless of vaccination. Speak to your vet about this too. they are the best source of information . Enjoy you puppy. Happy days for you ahead!