Kingsleychi Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I have had an enquiry from a friend who owns a pointer that the vet recommend be put of Glusocamine. Her questions was whether or not she could buy the standard stuff from a chemist and administer this to her dog in a smaller dosage. I'm completely lost on this one and i have had a look at the different labels but cant see much of a difference with ingredients and so forth. Could someone give me some advice of this cause i dont want to give her an answer without finding out the all the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springdog Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I have used Glucosamine for my Boxer and i got it from a Health Food Shop without a problem just gave him a small dose to start and gradually built it up to 1 teaspoon once a day, the only thing i has to watch for was if it made him itchy, it didn't. And it was cheaper than some from the vets around $30.00 for 500gram tub. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 8, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I saw liquid glucosamine (for humans) at the local BiLo. They advertised it was "more easily absorbed" (?). Thought a liquid might be easier for dogs. Sorry, don't know dosages. A pointer's about 25-30kg?. Average human more than double that. This website has some suggested dosages, but I've no idea whether or not it's correct: http://www.arthritis-cats-dogs.com/article-detail.php?ID=208. Other things that help are gentle exercise e.g. swimming, and keeping the dog lean (less weight for joints to carry). Good luck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashka1 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I also use Glucosomine with Chrondroitin and MSN another great aditive for joints and repair is Ester C. This is non acid vitamin C so is gentle on the tummy. I also take all these myself for a neck injury (my OH thinks it is funny that I take the same stuff as the dogs LOL)and I can swear it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashka1 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Yes swimmimg!! I swim my Newfoundlands and they love it now, I bought a doggy life jacket to make them feel more bouyant and confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ari.g Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hi CavnRott Is Joint Guard a human thing? Where can I get it from ie coles or do i need to go to a health food shop? Thanks Kirstie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montall Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I use osteoeze from the supermarket for my little girl and it seems to help her a lot. My vet suggested it and said it is pretty mild so you don't have to be all that accurate with the dose, not much chance of overdosing. He stipulated "OsteoEze Active" because that is the one with the shark cartilege (sp??). The ingredients read Glucosamine plus Chondroitin. She is a chinese crested weighing about 4kg and I give her a quarter tablet twice a day. I haven't noticed any nasty side effects but she has only been taking it since January this year. You do have to stick with it for a few weeks to see results apparently. My little girl had surgery so the results seemed to be pretty well immediate but I guess if it is an arthritis thing it may take a little longer. I got it from Woolworths but I would guess that Coles probably sell it as well, not sure. It's a Herron product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Joint Guard is a doggie product. It costs a fair bit more than the human version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Archie~ Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Joint Guard is a dog thing - we buy ours from the vets We use Joint Guard on my Mum's dog & we looked at the human products first & then discussed with the vets Joint Guard is the correct ratio of Glucosamine/Chondroitin for dogs. Some human products leave out Chondroitin completely, and you need both ingredients for it to be worthwhile or they dont put in enough Chondroitin for it to be effective. You might as well just buy Joint Guard - on the lid of the tub it says it lasts a 20kg dog 6 months so thats not too bad - it works out to be quite good value!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 8, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashka1 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I use Joint Forte power from Wagner. It is a human one and has very high levels of glucosomin,2000 mg chondroltin 500mg and MSN 2000mg. Also Vitiamin C ,Zinc Manganeese, copper Bornon and Bioflavins (per 30 grms). This is about $34 for 500 grams or $60 per Kg at the discount chemists. It is the best value I have found as you need to give less due to the high level of ingredients and as a poweder easy to put in the food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conchy Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Ashka1, How much of that do you use for your big babie and how much does a newfie generally weigh? I am wanting something with the msm added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellybly10 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Joint Guard has MSM in it, and as someone said before it has the correct ratio of glucosamine and chondroitin (apparently you need almost equal amounts of each according to my vet). Joint Guard has 500mg glucosamine and 400mg chondroitin, whereas looking at the Wagner one it has way too much glucosamine compared to chondroitin. We chose Joint Guard for my mum's old boy as it is the same as Cosequin for dogs (just in powder form) but cheaper, and Cosequin is apparently the best and most studied dog arthritis product in the world. We did have him on Cosequin until we found Joint Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsleychi Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 Thanks everyone for your replies. Have forwarded them onto my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashka1 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Ashka1, How much of that do you use for your big babie and how much does a newfie generally weigh? I am wanting something with the msm added. Currently he is on 15 mg morning and night, he is 45kg and is actually kept slightly under weight as they growing very fast and this can effect joints, he is just 6 months old. I spoke to a canine physio/vet specialist and she said that this was a great combination for a big dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamuzz Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) If you go to the top of this page, under the advertisement you will see View All Advertisers Locate Joint Guard and it will give you some info. But that still doesn't tell you where to buy. Does anyone know an online retailer who is selling this? (My vet won't stock it as they carry Sasha's Blend.) ETA found some at the Vet Shed Is $73.00 for the 400g tub the right sort of price to pay? They seem to stock quite a few types Edited May 15, 2007 by kamuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 8, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashka1 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Pharmacy direct have an online store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassie Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 My pup is on Glucosamine (as recommended by the breeder) and I bought it from just a normal human health store. It's called "MICROgenics Glucosamine MSM & Chondroitin" and I paid $28.75 for a 250g tub. It comes in a powder, which I find easy to mix in with his food. Human varieties are fine to give them. I cannot comment on Joint Guard or any of the other producs specifically for dogs as I've never used them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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