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  1. i'd like to know that too, i might try googling and see what comes up
  2. no i don't think you're being silly, a valid worry. i was very worried i've never seen it in 26 years of breeding and owning my breed so yeah....ETA asked a few more experienced breeders and they couldn't really answer the question they hadn't seen it either.
  3. i had a little bitch called pride n joy, yes, it will right itself i believe, i had a baby boy chihuahua that had both his ears curling backwards and i just massaged everyday for a few minutes pulling them forward to where they should be and over time i think by 8, 9 weeks his ears were in the right position.
  4. yes i agree, ANKC have said its going to take a long time, and they want to eventually log all info on the pedigrees or have a database, how long is that going to take the next 20 years? with us, we don't breed that often, i might have 2-3 sometimes 5 years inbetween litters sometimes and have sold dogs to people that i keep in contact with and see the dogs and also a high percentage we breed we keep ourselves until they die of old age. thats why i can say i've never seen much in the way of eye problems in our dogs. i keep tabs because of also patella luxation i want to know about my line, but some breeders are not interested at all in following the progress of dogs bred or even testing whole bloodlines. so ANKC will have their work cut out for them won't they
  5. yes i know, someone was saying they know of old dogs that have gone blind. but generally we are interested in blindness/eye problems etc. in younger dogs to be able to determine if it is a common ailment amongst our breed. do you work for a vet? i just wish that this study would take into account registered chihuahua populations rather than just the odd subjects that are picked up at vets and might not be a full chihuahua. why don't they do that? contact clubs like ours as there are people that are listening and watching what is going on with this LIDA database. they would get a more accurate picture. although ANKC are saying that they don't hold too much value in this LIDA database until such time that they start testing registered breeds.
  6. the puggle episode was particularly bad and it made me see red actually i think steam was coming out of my ears by that stage....i just think it promotes the DD's with incorrect information and promotes them as being a breed of dog when they are a cross.
  7. further to the discussion we had on the 7pm project thread a week ago or more, which was very interesting, i have since been asking breeders if they've come across any eye problems in the breed. i said for myself in 26 years of owning, showing and breeding chis that i haven't come across eye problems in my own bloodlines also heart problems - i do get my dogs regularly checked for heart problems but have found none and i've also bred and shown other bloodlines along the way and i've never seen any eye problems there either and also heart as well, i've inherited quite a few dogs from other breeders when dogs have been 4-5-7 years old. one knowledgable person who has been with the breed for a very long time has said that they know of one case they have come across and its one too many as far as they are concerned. also has heard of some chihuahuas going blind in their older age and because it is not tested for in the breed we have no idea how wide spread the eye problem actually is in Australia. i agree with this breeder. they are right. im guessing its not wide spread enough to actually list it in a data base thats my personal opinion. just thought i'd update what i said earlier on for clarification. i am still questioning older more experienced breeders who have been with the breed 40,50 years to see what they have come across. one breeder has said that they are working on getting their stock tested for eyes anyway.
  8. on you tube read the comments below i think cavoodle or some oodle designer it gets quite heated. someone is trying to educate there's some really ignorant comments on there like for instance, hybrids are more healthier because they are a mix of 2 or more breeds, and all that garbage. there is some dummies out there thats for sure, and i expect that not all of them are from Oz i think quite a few are from other countries. interesting reading anyway.
  9. i have a letter from CEO of Dogsvic sent to me last year if you want to PM i will send it to you, it clears up the misconception about all this, it is what mortonplace says, VCA/dogsvic lobbied the govt and dogsvic members are exempt from registering as a domestic animals business as long as the members have 10 fertile bitches or less. ofcourse you still have to apply to your council to have a permit for that many.
  10. just thought i'd put this up for hopefully members of the public to read. i know that often threads from this forum can be googled i've done it myself. i believe that the ANKC response to RSPCA and Pedigree Dogs Exposed is a good response overall. i just believe more members of the public should read this rather than having scare mongering tactics and I think chris brown and 7pm project should have a copy of this as well. I've bolded areas which i see have already been discussed in depth in this forum in another thread. RSPCA call for change ANKC LTD STATEMENT : PEDIGREE DOGS EXPOSED - RSPCA CALL FOR CHANGE The ANKC Ltd is actively addressing recent concerns raised on a review of breeding practices in Australia and would like to provide the following information. 1.Australia differs considerably to the UK – we agree there are problems (just as there are in humans, cross bred dogs and other species) but are working hard to improve dog health and welfare across the board. 2.We already have Disease Control Schemes running in a large number of breeds and have been doing so for long periods of time, with good results. We have cleared Copper Toxicosis from Bedlington Terriers, Fucocidosis in Springer Spaniels and Haemophilia A from the German Shepherd. 3.We annually donate close to $100,000 collectively across Australia to Research into dog diseases and DNA Test Development. 4.Breeders are heavily involved in testing dogs and assisting in research often by donating funds and samples. 5.With regards to Inbreeding we are collaborating with the Sydney University Faculty of Veterinary Science investigating the status in Australia. We do not anticipate major problems in the numerically larger breeds, smaller breeds may have higher figures, however Australian breeders have a long history of importing new bloodlines, especially due to our geographical isolation. 6.Breed Standards were promoted in the BBC Program as the ”cause” of many genetic diseases – rarely is this true, many diseases are enzyme or organ based. Breed Standards are an outline guide and breeders and judges are urged to avoid exaggeration. 7.Health Control Schemes – there is widespread use of health schemes in Australia by dog breeders – hips, elbows, eyes. The use of DNA Testing is expanding rapidly as tests become available. The ANKC has partnered with the AVA in CHEDS (Canine Hip and Elbow Scheme) and ACES (Australian Canine Eye Scheme). Some breeds have adopted LRL’s (Litter Registration Limitations requiring parental screening for certain heritable diseases before a litter can be registered. The ANKC Ltd and its Member Bodies are committed to the improvement of the Health and Welfare of Pedigree Dogs and where it is presented with scientifically based evidence of health problems in a breed it will consult with relevant experts to work towards a solution. it goes a bit more indepth here: improving outcomes with pedigree dogs in Australia Prior to, and in the aftermath of the BBC Documentary, “Pedigree Dogs Exposed” the ANKC had constructive dialogue with a number of organizations, including the RSPCA, who in late 2009 wrote to us seeking comment on a document entitled “Improving outcomes for Pedigree Dogs in Australia”. The ANKC Ltd has considered their proposals and our response is based around 3 main approaches:- 1. The ANKC Ltd is already heavily involved in addressing most of these issues - health and welfare are paramount to our continued existence, with the emphasis towards "fit for function, fit for life". 2. The ANKC Ltd is being very proactive wherever there is clear scientific direction. 3. The ANKC Ltd will always look in the long term for significant change - both in relation to the change of attitudes by breeders and judges but also in relation to tackling disease issues and percentages of animals adversely affected by inherited diseases. 1. Research Programs The ANKC Ltd will continue to take a very proactive approach to improve the outcomes of breeding pedigree dogs by whatever means available at the time that are effective, reliable and repeatable. Equally, we have to be aware of the dangers of being too aggressive in disease control programs such that we do not reduce genetic variability. All serious breeders keep very up to date with international events in their breeds which includes information on which diseases are being investigated and what tests are being developed. Furthermore, many will send samples to assist in the research. On a state level, many breed clubs have instigated disease control measures that are not necessarily being done on a national level – this may include disease screening processes, self-regulation and or recommended best breeding practices. 2. Disease prevalence data collection and analysis. (LIDA) The LIDA database has the possibility to provide a system to determine prevalence rates for specific disorders for each registered pedigree breed. However, this is a long term ongoing project which will require a large amount of input and assessment. The ANKC Ltd feels that the system is limited in that it depends upon veterinarians collecting and forwarding on the information. Many of these diseases can be quite obscure and difficult to diagnose in some breeds as they may manifest at quite a young age and may fail to get diagnosed correctly. Another problem with LIDA is the possibility of incorrect identification of breeds by the Veterinarian. For example some Labrador crosses look similar to the pure bred. The ANKC Ltd is also concerned that it is mooted that information from non pedigree dogs will also be listed on the database. Funding issues will also be long term and ongoing in order to provide ongoing support to LIDA to increase its data collection capacity. Instigation of breeders reporting of inherited disorders to LIDA certainly is a long term possibility and would considerably widen the data base input. Some breed clubs already have internal reporting mechanisms; however use of these is often poor but certainly can be pushed by the Health and Welfare Committee. The recording of inherited disease data is one of the major issues to be addressed by the ANKC Ltd Canine Health & Welfare Committee. The ANKC Ltd is in the process of trying to develop its own nationwide data base for the logging the results of all inherited diseases. This will take significant money and time to develop. It is envisaged that there will be both open and closed registers initially, with the end goal of having disease data results printed on pedigrees for easy access to all buyers and potential breeders. This is certainly a long term project and will take time to achieve its long term goals. (See also point 7). 3. Pedigree analysis for all ANKC registered breeds The University of Sydney is assisting the ANKC by conducting research on inbreeding co-efficients of pedigree dog data bases provided by the ANKC Ltd. Early reports show that the level of first degree inbreeding is less than 5% across the breeds studied so far and is considerably lower in many breeds. The ANKC Ltd is looking forwards to ongoing collaboration and assistance from the Genetic Department at Sydney University. To address this ongoing process will require funding from the ANKC. 4. Open pedigree studbooks The Opening of stud books is an area that is strongly opposed by many breeders. Where this has been done as with the LUA Dalmatians, it has been done to counteract the high uric acid problem that affects all Dalmatians. This is a very useful and purposeful exercise. These Low Uric Acid dogs have now been accepted by the Kennel Club (UK). This out crossing was done in the correct manner i.e. the breed selected was- a) of a similar head and body type, b) did not carry additional problems, c) did not carry the specific or target problem i.e. the high urate problem and d) they have avoided doubling up on the dog that was brought in. Where this type of outcrossing is proposed, it should be done primarily to clear/reduce a significant and specific health issue. Great care must be used when introducing any new genetic material. The relative health conditions of each base breed must be well researched, and the resultant progeny closely monitored for a good 10-15 generations for the appearance of any new conditions. Any adverse conditions that develop should be widely notified. This type of outcrossing already occurs in the Miniature Bull Terriers, outcrossing to standard Bull Terriers in order to decrease the incidence of lens luxation - the resultant progeny are not allowed to be bred back into the standard Bull Terrier bloodlines. This is envisioned as ongoing until such time as an accurate DNA test for the condition is developed (which has just occurred in the last few months). Also, albeit on a small scale, intervarietal inbreeding is permitted in Belgian Shepherds. 5. Popular sire effect Ideally one should promote superior sires (i.e. those with impressive disease control results) over “the stud dog of the moment”, particularly if there is little or no genetic testing done on the dog and/or few progeny results. It becomes an educational process of breeders to select sires by the value of their genetic test results as well as the physical quality of their progeny. Numerically smaller and/or rarer breeds already use regular importation of new unrelated bloodlines to keep their breeds viable. In fact, there is extensive importation of dogs of most breeds (including Australian developed breeds) due to the widespread nature of our country. Breeders often have difficulty in ensuring that the required genetic disease testing is being done appropriately prior to bringing these new animals into Australia. 6. Breed Standards Breed standards are being held up as the be all and end all of the problems in the dog world. Limited research has noted that one or more conditions may be related to breed standards in those standards that have been examined. The vast majority of breed standards were written over 100 years ago and have changed very little since. Problems arise over time where breeders and judges may have selected what appeared more attractive at that time. Equally over time, this can develop in to the more exaggerated aspects seen in certain breeds. The breed standards themselves are reasonably open documents and were written to give guidelines for breeds that were predominantly used for hunting and working purposes. The standards were intended to produce sound animals of similar type to breed on with. Over time (100 years plus), and as fashions change, certain aspects do become altered (particularly when seen from such a distance), but rarely does the standard point the way. The “Fit for function, fit for life” approach by the Kennel Club (UK) appears to be the best way to approach the selection and breeding of sound dogs into the future. It should be remembered that these problems of exaggerations of the breed standards have developed over generations of both dogs and breeders. The problems cannot be fixed in one generation but need a steady, consistent approach that should be looked at as a long term goal. Attempting to “fix” everything at once will in the vast majority of breeds result in severe number reduction which in turn would cause increased inbreeding with the remaining breeding stock. The health and welfare notation that has been added to each standard is a clear statement towards the fit for function, fit for life approach. Furthermore judges have been clearly instructed to non-award or excuse from the ring any animal that is distressed, lame or obviously unsound in any way (poor health, temperament, eye discharges etc). This is the culture we need to promote such that breeders will over time not exhibit animals with problems and further, not breed with them. The “Any departure from the foregoing….” at the end of each standard is there primarily to avoid exaggerations. The statement certainly does not imply that health and welfare issues are to only be considered when departures occur. The Australian based breed standards affect some 7 breeds – the Kelpie, Cattle Dog, Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog, Border Collie, Australian Terrier, Australian Silky Terrier and more recently the Tenterfield Terrier. None of these breeds are exaggerated structurally to any degree, as the majority come from a solid agriculture working base as reflects our history and culture. These standards are maintained and monitored by the breed societies involved and must agree to any changes. The ANKC Ltd has very little say in the alteration of breed standards based overseas. Breed extensions is an area with continual review – this is undertaken every 5 -10 years across all breeds and is an area that could become very proactive in promoting fitness and health in breeds. These are used to educate judges and to a lesser degree breeders. A higher emphasis on health and welfare aspects as well as the fit for function can be readily brought in along with the need to avoid exaggerations. These are all long term goals that will need time, education and a whole shift in the dog breeding fraternity philosophy towards dog breeding and exhibition. This, like any major shift, is often subtle but eventually quite profound. “Fit for function, fit for life” should be the eventual common goal for us all. 7. Conformation judges and pedigree dog shows The matters discussed here have been already noted to some degree in section 5. The interpretation of breed standards is certainly subjective and influenced by both time and the judges personal viewpoint. In attempting to change an entire culture to a more moderate approach, this again will take time and education. The ANKC Ltd has a National Judges Training Scheme which standardizes the teaching material (predominantly breed standard extensions) and to a certain extent the quality of the teaching received by new judges. The ANKC Ltd long term goal is two fold, to better educate new judges and to emphasize with the older more established judges the need to select fit healthy dogs that are not exaggerated in regard to any changed breed standards. All alterations to the breed standards are noted and placed on the ANKC web site. The Swedish system of promoting healthy dogs is more related to their passing hip and or elbow schemes and a temperament or working test relevant to their function. From this the dog is then awarded its championship title. This is in fact a two tiered system but is not directly related to judging per se. Attaching top awards such as excellent gradings to animals that have passed breed health and temperament screening tests would be the ultimate goal, but again it may take a long time to achieve. This is already being done within some to the larger breeds, notably the GSD and to a lesser extent the Rottweiler at specialty show level Australia wide. Failure to have passed both health and temperament testing results in non awarding at the highest level and restriction in advertising on a state or national basis. Preventing main registered dogs from participating in the show ring is not possible. Certainly while we emphasise to our judges that they should non award or excuse from the ring any animal that is distressed, lame or obviously unsound in any way (poor health, temperament, eye discharges etc) [as mentioned in section 6], we cannot prevent them from being entered at dog shows. The ANKC would like to reiterate that the vast majority of inherited diseases are not visible to the naked eye. Judges certainly do not have, nor ever will have x ray vision and/or veterinary degrees. Unless the condition the dog has is sufficiently severe to affect its physical or mental health, or its ability to move around the ring, judges cannot be expected to penalize what is not visible. Limiting the use of stud dogs is a very difficult area to approach, particularly at this time. There needs to be (as noted in sections 1 and 2) a far better understanding of both the diseases involved and the numbers of affected animals within breeds .i.e. solid data. While there may be bad sires, equally some are very good sires and generally are because they produce sound, healthy offspring. The best way to avoid this affect is to have hereditary results regularly published in breed magazines so that all breeders can make sound decisions of which dogs they can or cannot afford to use, without limiting access to available bloodlines. Also mentioned in section 4 above. 8. Detailed management plans for each registered breed As mentioned in section 2, the ANKC is in the process of trying to develop a nation wide data base for the logging of all inherited disease test results. This will take money and significant time to develop. There will be both open and closed registers with the end goal of having disease data results printed on pedigrees for easy access to all buyers and potential breeders – again a long term goal. New DNA tests are being put on the market at an increasingly rapid rate. As these become available, more breed clearance programs are being developed. Again, the protocols for such programs are being formulated by the Canine Health & Welfare Committee. Ways of assisting breeds to develop viable disease control measures without compromising genetic viability are also a priority to this committee. Where any of these inherited diseases are scientifically proven to directly relate to a component of the breed standard, recommendations would be forth coming to the ANKC standards committee on the issue. Where inherited diseases compromise the health and welfare of a dog we cannot at this stage exclude them from breeding unless breed restrictions (LRL’s) or similar measures have been imposed by the breed societies themselves. Certainly by the use of accurate DNA testing of significant diseases can prevent the production of affected animals without notable loss of genetic diversity. Carriers and even affected animals can be used (in non dominant conditions) such that maximum genetic diversity is retained. DNA testing is already widespread throughout many breeds. The ANKC H&W Committee’s concerns (at this point) are more that breeders may become too enthusiastic in attempting to clear diseases by restrictive in their use of carriers such that bloodline restrictions will occur. The development and use of EBV’s in relation to hip and elbow dysplasia control is in consideration by the GSDCA at the present time. These types of systems can only be realistically used where there is very good long term wide collection of relevant data. Only a few of the numerically larger breeds are capable of effectively applying these useful selection tools at this time. Certainly as the ANKC data bases develop over time, they become more viable. 9. Relatedness of mating pairs The question of prohibiting first degree of inbreeding is presently under discussion. Secondary to the work done by Sydney University, on our behalf (as discussed in section 3), less than 5% of registrations have this degree of inbreeding. In many breeds this figure is far lower. Therefore prohibiting father daughter, mother son and full sibling matings is quite achievable. Both the Kennel Club UK and Swedish KC have already instigated this same move. The advice from Sydney University also supports this move to avoid issues such as inbreeding depression and increasing the percentage on inherited disease. The restriction of second degree matings at this time is not felt to be warranted unless there is scientific advice in specific breeds where disease incidence has been proven to show that this move is necessary. Outcrossing we feel should only be considered where there is definite and specific disease outcomes that are desired as discussed in section 4 above. 10. Registration Rules Changes to registration rules such that “registration should be made conditional upon both parents undergoing compulsory screening tests for these disorders.” are issues that will take (as also noted) “take considerable time and effort” including discussion with our membership. The development of LRL’s (Litter Registration Limitations) follows the agreement by breeders and owners of that breed on an Australian wide consensus (breed survey) to apply such rules In addition to the current LRL’s there are several other well developed breed improvement schemes that are nearly ready to go for LRL status after a breed survey. At the upcoming conference several issues relate to this area. The Canine Health and Welfare Committee acts as an advisory board in the development and wording of breeds surveys that if adopted become LRL’s. The committee tries to ensure good breeding practices are adopted such that sensible methods of decreasing the incidences of inherited disease are achieved without significant loss of genetic variability or the production of any affected offspring. In the area where DNA tests have not yet been identified for specific inherited diseases, most breed societies (and breeders) already limit the use of affected animals and generally try and avoid mating with known carriers. Breeders and the CRF (Canine Research Foundation) are already very actively involved in assisting research in diseases, both here and overseas, across many breeds towards developing definitive and breed specific DNA tests. 11. Expand current initiatives Individual breed societies (as noted section 10 above) already have input into many research programs that many not be notable on a national scene. This is occurring in many numerically smaller breeds where funding is limited within Australia. DNA Samples are sent to support disease research in many countries, principally the UK and USA. Impetus within Australia comes secondary to University research programs, some of which are initiated by breed clubs for specific disease investigation egg. Border Collie Club for CL and TNS – which eventually resulted in 2 DNA breed specific DNA tests that are now used world wide. The CRF (Canine Research Foundation) is the main supporting arm of the ANKC for research into diseases in dogs. The CRF supports a range of wide spread research into many conditions that affect the health and welfare of all dogs, not just purebred dogs alone. Some of that research goes towards developing DNA tests for breed specific conditions. The ANKC Ltd is also being asked to fund the development of the national data bases to record all this genetic information and the dollars will be being spread very thinly for the next few years if we are to achieve this goal. 12. Inadvertent co-selection of linked genes This is an area that the Health and Welfare committee will have a watching brief and advise breed societies where there are proven clear and well defined links. Where they do occur and are known, many breeders already test where possible (BAER testing etc), and do not breed with affected animals and avoid breeding with known carriers of problems. However many such linkages can often be very difficult to scientifically prove, particularly those directed to a physical feature. The issues are often complex and involve many subtleties including shape, looseness of ligamentation, length of limbs to mention a few. Issues such as skin problems can often relate to immune system issues as well as exaggerations of skin type. 13. RSPCA Policy ANKC Ltd breeders must take a fairly comprehensive education course, and pass a theory examination, before being granted a prefix for breeding. ANKC Ltd breeders must also comply with codes of practice and ethics both from their State Bodies as well as additional requirements required within many breed societies. This covers minimum age of breeding, frequency of mating, maximum age of breeding as well as health issues in regards to vaccinations etc. ANKC Ltd breeders are always readily “findable” via Kennel Controls, Dog Shows etc. as opposed to the unregistered puppy farmers who melt back into the woodwork as soon as a puppy has been paid for. Although we understand it is RSPCA policy, and would have immense health and welfare benefits, we believe that a compulsory licensing system for all breeders is not feasible at this time. This opinion is based on the following considerations; •There does not seem to be any will amongst some State Governments to implement a comprehensive licensing system, and it would need a resolution at PIMC to initiate an Australian wide agreement. •Local Government Authorities do not have the resources to police present Breeding Regulations. •There is not, to our knowledge any Welfare Organisation, including the RSPCA, who have the manpower to ensure compliance with such a licensing system. 14. Accredited Breeders At this time some of our State & Territory Affiliates are considering introducing Accredited Breeder Schemes, similar to the one administered by the Kennel Club (UK). Conclusion The ANKC Ltd looks forward to continuing constructive dialogue with and input from RSPCA, Sydney University, the Australian Veterinary Association and other Universities and peak welfare bodies as well as relevant government departments and welfare committees on these issues. It is hoped that such dialogue and input, ultimately validated by peer reviewed scientific research, will lead to the best possible outcomes for all dogs. January 2010
  11. well i know of a farmer and their partner who over the years is constantly abusing their dogs, was told several times to stop breeding then got taken to court over it, (animal abuse) one had no licence, the other did, council tried to stop them owning and breeding dogs because of the abuse etc. yet VCAT told council they must issue them with a licence. the abuse will still go on with the licence now all above board, yet RSPCA and others are powerless to stop the abuse as it will go on, you'll see. so even if everyone knows who they are, where they are and what they do to animals no one can stop it even if they do operate out in the open. the law has failed these dogs. the dogs still remain sitting on wire in a hot tin shed with nothing but fans in summer to keep them cool. be like sitting in an oven. and the poor dogs would be cold in the winter. intesting another operator constantly tells the media that they are the best in the country yet there are pictures out there to prove them wrong. and the animal people are watching and waiting, heard that yet again there was another raid as the law has failed these dogs as well....
  12. the first sentence doesn't make much sense at all, they sound like thickheads but i spose some one could put something up for other people in the hopes of educating someone out there, that is a reasonable argument.
  13. ??? I can't find this decision anywhere, have you got a link to where i can perhaps find this? it isn't in their website.
  14. My auntie is back home. She left her dog with her ex boyfriend so it is no longer here. Shelley and Buddy can finally have there toys back which there happy about.I'm also happier too so is my dad and mum. are you still having problems with Rascal? perhaps it might be better to voice your concerns with the chi people in the chi thread maybe we can find some tips for you to try with him. i've attached a picture of the girl im talking about, my brother has golden retrievers has had them for a few years. they are a very happy go lucky dog generally.
  15. not necessarily don't forget mumtoshelley already has a chihuahua. i have my show chihuahuas that hang out with my kelpie cross pointer rescue they are around each other all day. it depends on the nature of the dog. my big breed dog is very gentle with my little dogs especially the young pups. our chihuahuas are shared amongst the family so most of them aren't picking just one person in the family they each like the whole family although in the past some chis have bonded to one person and stick with that one person. i assume when you listed what you wanted mumstoshelley you don't want another dog like your rascal who is a one person dog as some chihuahuas can be and also timid. some are not it depends on the personality of your chihuahua. i once had a long coat chihuahua girl who looked like a miniature GR, she was fearless not at all timid and friendly towards everyone in the family didn't pick just one person and also got on with other dogs and people. damn good show dog (champion chihuahua). living in tassie now being spoilt. chihuahuas aren't yappy, compared to a pomeranian - now there's a yappy dog. often you'd see their owners yeling out "shutup" every 10 minutes or so at a dog show. i'd always laugh because if i couldn't find a person you would only have to listen out for the "shutup" to know that they were there at the show somewhere. and it was never quiet taking them to dog shows whereas the chihuahuas would sit in their showcage quietly. but.....in saying that........you can get great differences within breeds too, some might be yappy while some might not be so much. I've had incredibly yappy poms while others i've owned over the years have been incredibly quiet just the opposite.
  16. yes i'd have to agree. everyone thinks chihuahuas are these little dogs that just sit in their owners arms or aren't a real dog. they act like terriers and have many terrier like qualities about them, they are all different personalities. mine are rough and ready to take on teh world and are tough as nails i bring them up that way, no mottycoddling in this household. getting back to the ears, my little chi boy had this when he was about 4-8 weeks of age, i kept messaging his ears and they righted themselves. now they are normal position. he was a sickly little boy as he is very tiny for his age. he is now about 12-13 weeks of age and so far doing great, he was touch and go when he was about 6 weeks nearly lost him . thats the first time i've seen that in 26 years of having this breed.
  17. look at the big picture of all this, its up to the public not to buy petshop puppies as we all know that petshops fuels puppy farms AND also it is up to the public to stop buying dogs online from these puppy farms that have these fancy websites inticing members of the public. for all these farms to be all over the place like this they must be able to sell their puppies easily. so there are still people out there who have no idea.
  18. just to let you know that i emailed Uni of sydney about PRA with chihuahuas and i got no answer as i thought i would not!!! go figure. there'd have to be only a few isolated cases to non-existance i'll be asking the chi club of vic and maybe the national club to perhaps respond to this and get some other chi breeders on board.
  19. another technique that worked well for my brother he's got 2 Golden retrievers that liked to bark at the next doors labrador, they let the 3 dogs meet in person it stopped all the barking as now the dogs know each other. i thought that was pretty clever. my brothers neighbors are pretty good though, they made a doggy door between the 2 properties in the fence and every so often open it and the dogs can freely go into each property. now its permanently closed as they don't see a need to do this anymore. all suggested by my brothers trainer and it was a pretty unique way of dealing with barking dogs i thought.
  20. nor i, e.g. one of my girls was walking very wonky in the back legs, took her to not my regular vet but because he was on hols at the time i decided to go to my local vet. got her to walk they suggested that she might have HD and it was something to do with her hips. xray hips. couldn't find a problem with hips or patellas. referred me to a specialist in the field. paid $150 for him to say hmmmmmmmm don't really know i can refer you to a professor at uni. meanwhile......took her back to my vet who had come back from hols. straight away my vet felt on her back and she flinched "bingo" he said. x-ray her back showed me the xray, we both looked at the discs one was squashed. bingo he said again problem is slipped disc....on meds never be right as rain we know that but this is a classic example of wrong diagnoses and me having to pay first $300 for first 2 x-rays and then $150 for no diagnoses at all so you got that right sometimes there can be a wrong diagnoses so would they log that info on the system even if they didn't know what it was
  21. We should perhaps be clear that this is a list of both congenital and hereditary conditions complied by LIDA. Some of the conditions are listed as a result of a vet seeing a dog in their clinic that the owner says is that breed and reporting the condition for the database. There is no indication in this list which are genetic and which are congenital as a result of (for example) one reporting. I will give an example: The listing of Vaginal Hyperplasia for Pyrenean Mountain Dog was the result of a vet seeing a puppy of that breed with a mild case of this condition (which later corrected as the pup grew) and reporting it to the database. I also find it interesting that they specifically list X-Linked PRA for the breed when there is currently no genetic data available on PRA on the Pyrenean, with the exception of a genetic marker for CMR. so we don't even know if they are purebred and could infact have another breed in them only taking the word of the owner of the dog??????? if they were testing gene pools in registered chihuahuas with breeders i might be inclined to not question. looking up PRA the papillon can be affected with PRA as well as collies no mention of sheltie though, x-linked is only in the husky and bullmastiff. oh dear. Look if you are sure that your breed does not have this here is the link to check it again http://sydney.edu.au/vetscience/lida/dogs/search/disorder/256/Progressive%20Retinal%20Atrophy%20(PRA)%20(X-linked)] Then email them with your evidence and if you are right then they will remove it. How about glacoma, do Chi not get that either? There are several eye disorders listed for chi and in the US and the UK the parent clubs recommend eye certs yearly for breeding chi dogs. So they must think there is something there. never seen that either here it could vary from country to country, the US club are also saying that SM is coming up in some of their show lines. Yes well it may be yet another case of a dog breed in Australia not haveing the diseaes normally found in the breed in the rest of the world. So breeders are not doing any eye exams/certs because the chi have no known eye diseases in Australia? Biot putting words in yor mouth, just trying to sort it all out. to my knowledge no they are not. to my knowledge and all the people i know. WA chi club did recommend this some years ago, now its not on the site. whether some breeders took notice and did this i don't know, they have a vet that is on committee there.
  22. We should perhaps be clear that this is a list of both congenital and hereditary conditions complied by LIDA. Some of the conditions are listed as a result of a vet seeing a dog in their clinic that the owner says is that breed and reporting the condition for the database. There is no indication in this list which are genetic and which are congenital as a result of (for example) one reporting. I will give an example: The listing of Vaginal Hyperplasia for Pyrenean Mountain Dog was the result of a vet seeing a puppy of that breed with a mild case of this condition (which later corrected as the pup grew) and reporting it to the database. I also find it interesting that they specifically list X-Linked PRA for the breed when there is currently no genetic data available on PRA on the Pyrenean, with the exception of a genetic marker for CMR. so we don't even know if they are purebred and could infact have another breed in them only taking the word of the owner of the dog??????? if they were testing gene pools in registered chihuahuas with breeders i might be inclined to not question. looking up PRA the papillon can be affected with PRA as well as collies no mention of sheltie though, x-linked is only in the husky and bullmastiff. oh dear. Look if you are sure that your breed does not have this here is the link to check it again http://sydney.edu.au/vetscience/lida/dogs/search/disorder/256/Progressive%20Retinal%20Atrophy%20(PRA)%20(X-linked)] Then email them with your evidence and if you are right then they will remove it. How about glacoma, do Chi not get that either? There are several eye disorders listed for chi and in the US and the UK the parent clubs recommend eye certs yearly for breeding chi dogs. So they must think there is something there. what sort of evidence do you need to have?
  23. Yes but you have to test them first to find out and why I asked if any breeders are testing their dogs eyes? if no breeders are getting eye problems over here at least why would they be testing for eye problems. because the american club way over in US are finding SM problems now we should also be testing for this disease too? if it aint broke why fix it? i know you probably won't believe me when i say that i've owned over 100 chihuahuas over many years and couple that with the bloodlines.dogs i've viewed over many years there's been very low cases of heart troubles and PRA or eye problems is very low indeed. i am in contact constantly with breeders all over OZ as i have many friends in different states. share bloodline information and health issues. heart problems as i said, dogs can be affected with this, i have come across one line where the breeder had a dog infected at about 5-6 years of age, so immediately rang up all people that used this dog and informed them then got this dog de-sexed. this defect did get produced again later in the bloodline again so the bloodline was quickly dispelled with, all dogs desexed. and no, dogs were not tested because the problem didn't show up until the original dog was quite older. my bloodline never had heart problems some of my bloodline have lived quite healthily until their late teens. imageine that and they are pedigree dogs omg. of the over 100 dogs i've owned never come across this also looking at some of my breeder friends in different states -low incidence. my first cross bred dog nearly 30 years ago had a heart problem.
  24. We should perhaps be clear that this is a list of both congenital and hereditary conditions complied by LIDA. Some of the conditions are listed as a result of a vet seeing a dog in their clinic that the owner says is that breed and reporting the condition for the database. There is no indication in this list which are genetic and which are congenital as a result of (for example) one reporting. I will give an example: The listing of Vaginal Hyperplasia for Pyrenean Mountain Dog was the result of a vet seeing a puppy of that breed with a mild case of this condition (which later corrected as the pup grew) and reporting it to the database. I also find it interesting that they specifically list X-Linked PRA for the breed when there is currently no genetic data available on PRA on the Pyrenean, with the exception of a genetic marker for CMR. so we don't even know if they are purebred and could infact have another breed in them only taking the word of the owner of the dog??????? if they were testing gene pools in registered chihuahuas with breeders i might be inclined to not question. looking up PRA the papillon can be affected with PRA as well as collies no mention of sheltie though, x-linked is only in the husky and bullmastiff. oh dear. Look if you are sure that your breed does not have this here is the link to check it again http://sydney.edu.au/vetscience/lida/dogs/search/disorder/256/Progressive%20Retinal%20Atrophy%20(PRA)%20(X-linked)] Then email them with your evidence and if you are right then they will remove it. How about glacoma, do Chi not get that either? There are several eye disorders listed for chi and in the US and the UK the parent clubs recommend eye certs yearly for breeding chi dogs. So they must think there is something there. never seen that either here it could vary from country to country, the US club are also saying that SM is coming up in some of their show lines.
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