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Please note that the following factsheets or agnotes have recently been added to the Victorian DPI website, linked to the BAW front page (www.dpi.vic.gov.au/animalwelfare). Animals and fires (update) Horses and bushfires (update) Pets and emergencies (new) Caring for Animals during extreme heat (new) Prohibited procedures for dogs (new) http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/DPI/nrenfa.nsf/c...92007CD4CC?open

There is a name from the past. Neville also had Security Kennels as a prefix as well as Von Kaiserhoff. They may have had similar interests but I'm not too sure if Neville worked with Kris Kotsopolous at Von Forrell.

Qualified Dog Trainer Vs Dog Trainer, What makes you a Qualified Dog Trainer? What makes you a Qualified Dog Trainer There is no right or wrong answers, just gaining insight as to how people perceive people to be Qualified Dog Trainers Is it by having a number of years of experience? [ 9 ] [25.71%] Is it by completing a course, and if so, does a two day course count? [ 1 ] [2.86%] Is it having a Certificate in dog training? [ 6 ] [17.14%] Is it having a Certificate that is approved by the National Qualification Framework? [ 10 ] [28.57%] Is it by belonging to an organisation that says you are a Qualified Dog Trainer? [ 1 ] [2.86%] Is it being recognised by your State Government under the terms of a relevant Act of Parliament? [ 1 ] [2.86%] None of the above [ 4 ] [11.43%] All of the above [ 3 ] [8.57%] Total Votes: 23 (as at 06/08/09) The reasons I have highlighted the above as it changes after each vote. It is interesting to see how people perceive dog trainers to be qualified. Would it surprise anyone to know that having a Certificate that is approved by the National Qualification Framework does not make you a qualified dog trainer, well at least not in Victoria. In Victoria, the only reference I have been reliably informed to a "qualified dog trainer" is referenced in the Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act. [An Act of Parliament]. Is anyone aware if this is similar in their respective states?

It's always good to welcome new members to the forums. Without trying to sound cynical we hope that you are joining for the right reasons. Since the collapse of ADT there have been a number of posts that whether intentional or not have in some way tried to direct clients or persons including former ADT instructors to themselves or a business they are involved with. I do not believe this is in the spirit of the forum. My thoughts have been to direct people to the NDTF website (hopefully to an organisation that may be able to assist in a manner somewhat similar to ADT) or to VCA website to their obedience affiliates. Any training for dogs in the community has got to be a benefit to the community. Afterall its about Promoting Responsible Dog Ownership.

So who gives that organisation the authority to say that you are a qualified dog trainer.

We hear and see the term "Qualified Dog Trainer" in advertisements, websites, threads and so on. So what makes a Qualified Dog Trainer? Is it by having a number of years of experience? Is it by completing a course, and if so, does a two day course count? Is it having a Certificate in dog training? Is it having a Certificate that is approved by the National Qualification Framework? Is it by belonging to an organisation that says you are a Qualified Dog Trainer? If so, what gives this organisation ability to give you the title of Qualified Dog Trainer? Is it being recognised by your State Government under the terms of a relevant Act of Parliament? I am not asking about good or bad dog trainers, or good or bad courses, but to gain insight as to the perception in peoples minds of what sort of qualifications or experience should a dog trainer have to be known as a "Qualified Dog Trainer".

Are they talking of a live KC vaccine or a dormant vaccination? In both cases the vaccination usually takes a couple of weeks to build up to full strength. It is possible the live virus can be transmitted to other dogs during the incubation period. It is a bit like the human flu, some people have the shot to ward off the evil spirits (prevent) and end up getting the virus. Dogs are no different.

Just curious but the vaccination your dogs were given, were they by chance Live Vaccine. The reason I ask is that I have seen some certificates lately with the wording Live Vaccine stamped across the veterinary certificates. Some boarding kennels are now asking for three week incubation/isolation periods between vaccine (including booster shots) and dogs entering their kennels.

More so to help ease your discomfort, your vet should have mentioned to try avoiding going between your infected dogs and any other dogs that you may have or your friends and family have. Disinfect everything. F10 is usually a good start or bleach, including the soles of your shoes especially when entering and leaving kennel blocks. The last thing you need is more veterinary bills. BTW: You mention them both having C5 vaccinations. Any ideas of how they contracted? It just may help in looking at ways to prevent in future.

Dogs NSW Members: Does your Articles of Association, Rules and Regulations allow you the opportunity to raise questions/agenda items at Annual and/or Special General Meetings and if it does, does it allow the members to vote on these agenda items. If so there may be an opportunity to overturn the decision/s of your Board of Directors. In Victoria, the members have the ability to raise agenda items at AGM's/SGM's and have the ability to vote on these items; as an ordinary resolution the Management Committee only have to take the advice and not necessarily act upon the decision; whereas a Special Resolution the Management Committee are compelled to accept the decision.

Our obedience school wont allow check chains on pups under 5 months old either... if you can conquer the lead pulling now its so much easier than when theyre 32kg and 12 months old Just a reminder in Victoria-Slip Collars ( choker chains), must not be used on puppies under 12 weeks of age, this is stated in the Code of Practice for Dog Training Establishments. All equipment has the potential of doing some harm if it not used correctly. I would suppose the only piece of equipment that does no harm is still sitting on the shelf in the pet shop. (That way it is not in the hands of inexperienced or in informed handlers). Slightly off topic but when did anyone last buy dog equipment that you were supplied a detailed drawing and written explanation on how to fit and how to operate this equipment. I see many a product on the shelf with no explanations as to how to fit and how it should be used correctly.

Both Bonnie and Supercoat are made by the same manufacturer (Purina now owned by Nestle), just branded differently and with slight variances in protein and fat contents. I am led to believe Supercoat has been adding more corn (fillers) to their product which reacts to some dogs, causing sloopy poos. As been stated try your dog on some food and see the results for yourself. Whether it is one of these brands or another is is always hard to decipher which is better when products contents change and there is an adversive reaction. I have always worked on the principle of Individual diets for individual dogs. What suits one dog does not necessarily suit another, this includes Premium and Super Premium ranges of food.

From past experience you would normally have this collar on for the duration of the stitches being in. Some vets suggest that you periodically take the collar off (whilst your at home and can watch your dog) so that you can give your dog a bit of a groom, especially with coated breeds around the collar area. This also gives you the opportunity to clean the collar, keeping in clean and hygienic.

The Dogs Victoria website, like its predecessor (VCA website) had its construction undertaken by outside contractors to build the site. This new site was not built by the same people that constructed the original (VCA site) and the VCA staff they had in the VCA office to supervise the build of the original site are no longer employed with the VCA/Dogs Victoria, they left when the office moved to Cranbourne in 2002. The original site was tested for a couple of months before going live, not rushed into service before being ready. The original website had the ability for transactions to occur but this could not occur due to the financial package that was used in the VCA office; they could not "talk" with each other and money was required to be spent to remedy the problem. It was decided to wait for the second stage of the ANKC Computer system development to occur to remedy this problem. I am also led to believe the ANKC database redevelopment is not being undertaken by the same contractors as the initial database. The old VCA website was meant to be the stepping stone until the DV website (as it is now known) came on line, unfortunately the new website which was meant to come online when the ANKC computer system was upgraded was to have all these items available online from day one of going live. It has been long overdue, the old VCA website was only meant to be in service for a couple of years. In fact, on line access was due to occur in 2002/03 including the ability to undertake all disciplines event entries including registration and financial transactions online. Over the years the VCA attempted to have certain items added to the ANKC Computer System only to be told if you wanted them they you had to pay for them, but the other states can use them. The VCA undertook some items but the larger (price) ticketed items went into the later day basket. At the time it showed the ANKC had to be united as one, with all states becoming the ANKC not as individual state governing bodies, unfortunately the states could not agree and to some degree this is why the website (Dogs Victoria owned) and the ANKC Computer System are not working unitedly today. Had it been one organisation, it would have benefitted all ANKC members, nation wide. This is why each state still has an individual state magazine, they couldn't agree on who would control it, they talked as individual states not as one national body.

You could contact one of the following Dogs Victoria Club Secretaries and speak with them. The top two secretaries have been around a long time, 30 years plus and all three clubs have trained a number of dogs and instructors in this time. OBEDIENCE CLUBS KEILOR OBEDIENCE DOG TRAINING CENTRE INC. – Mr Bryan Crowley, P O Box 75, Niddrie 3042. (9336 3516). NORTHERN OBEDIENCE DOG CLUB INC. – Ms Marcia Hall, P O Box 98, Moonee Ponds 3039. (9383 1550) WERRIBEE OBEDIENCE DOG CLUB INC. – Ms Renee Ashman, P O Box 2, Werribee 3030. (9749 5279).

I haven't heard too much on new vaccines as yet so anyone with any knowledge of this new vaccination, any ideas on isolation periods? and is this a dormant or Live vaccine. Some of the veterinary certificates I have seen lately have wording along the lines of ïsolate your dog for a period of fourteen days from the date of this vaccination. Also some of the vaccination certificates of late, especially with canine cough components, mentions the wording "Live Vaccine" and to isolate for a minimum of fourteen days, even for booster shots.

Legislation is and will always be a maze. Isn't this how lawyers make their money! Legislators write legislation when they believe there is a need for it. It is up to the enforcement officers to enact the legislation. Sometimes they get it right; sometimes they get it wrong. (Human interpretation-as with many things in life). If we don't like the legislation we can request for it to be changed (sometimes this may take some time to do). We probably are lucky in some aspects that enforcement officers do not follow the legislation "verbatim" otherwise we may only have a few dog training schools out there. Some good comments and opinions but we maybe somewhat digressing from the original post. Any news from HR regarding charges/complaints laid.

Thanks for the clarification. I wonder if the authorities would know the difference? Printed below is an extract from the Introduction of the Code of Practice of Dog Training Establishments: 1. Introduction This Code of Practice is made under the provisions of Section 59 of Division 4 of the Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act 1994 (“the Act”). The purpose of the Code is to specify the minimum standards of accommodation, management and care which are appropriate to the physical and behavioural needs of dogs being trained in dog training establishments. The Code and its provisions are to be observed by all proprietors of dog training establishments, including those establishments that conduct training at the residence of a client, and by people who work in them. All dog training establishments must comply with State and Local Government legislation and permits. Protection training is defined as training a dog to attack people or animals and includes the training of a dog to attack a human wearing padded protective clothing for any purpose including sport. All dogs entering dog training establishments must be identified and dogs that are undergoing protection training must be permanently identified by means of a microchip issued by the municipality in which the dog normally resides. The Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Act requires an owner to notify the appropriate municipality immediately attack training has commenced. I see the protection training definition to be relevant, although I would be more concerned with: All dog training establishments must comply with State and Local Government legislation and permits. I see this sentence opens pandora's box as Local Government can place any restrictions they see fit using their ability to make Local Laws and more importantly oversee and approve or decline permit applications. I suppose there is always VCAT. Anyway, this Code of Practice was last updated around September 2004. Below is a link to: Things You Should Know About Dog Training Establishments http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/DPI/nrenfa.nsf/L...A2572B10008EED4 which gives a brief clarification of Business Registration.

but dont most training facilities technically double as boarding kennels? Unless you are just having obedience classes on your property a trainer that works from home etc is not technically an animal business since they do not have animals on premises in a commercial manner. So if you are having dogs stay at your facility you would be considered a boarding kennel? Yes but what if I want to run training sessions and train these dogs for a living and I dont want them to stay on my premises? Where is the provision for this in the law. That is a restriction of trade. Under the Domestic (Feral) and Nuisance Animals Act you have to be a registered dog training establishment. The Code of Practice for Dog Training Establishments can be found at: http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/DPI/nreninf.nsf/...1600220443?open without trying to go off the subject to much, dog schools including puppy pre-schools technically would come under this Code of Practice, although they are not specifically mentioned in it. Reading all the legislation and it has been around in this form since 1994 and possibly beforehand in other dog acts any council could close down a dog training school if is not registered under the terms and conditions of the Act.

Without the information of charges we can all make plenty of assumptions. Some correct and some not so correct. I find it is always better to know the complete facts before going off half-cocked. The letter regarding Michael Burns' case is a good one to keep in mind, but the big thing is to show the community what the benefits of Schutzhund trained dogs are. This does not necessarily mean doing demonstrations but to highlight the achievements that these dogs and handlers have made by any means possible. (Use instances of intrastate, interstate and international achievements also). John McDonald may be worth speaking with some of the gundog fraternity and see what they have done to change their image of being "gun totting cowboys" sending dogs out after harmless game. Use this information to your advantage. Focus on and highlight the achievements, afterall the prosecution will be out there wanting to project an image of fear for the community at large. Portray a different image.

Try Terry & Teressa Lewis down Colac way. They breed and own GSDs. Terry makes very strong and stable Agility equipment and has even made equipment that has been powdercoated for us. Spent two years out in the elements and still looks almost new and this equipment is used every week. From memory he wasn't the cheapest but I couldn't complain about the quality.

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Some really good training centres have been mentioned. Price is not always an indicator. Go and visit and see the training centres in action and see which facility is better suited to you, your dog and your budget and which training centre/s can offer training times and location/s better for you.

Australian Dog Trainers Academy also have an Nationally accredited course 'Conduct Companion Animal Training Classes RUV4512A'.