Jeff Jones

Would love to have an official FCI (full) Executive Member/Representative for this. It is a shame Alison will not be back in Aus until December.

You are kidding yourself if you believe that statement to be true.

Hi dasha do you know the owner of the Dutch Shepherd or did you just see it somewhere in Sydney?

I like it when people argue with you on what breed of dog it is you own. I had a lady who works at a pet food store ask me what breed of dog I own the other day, I told her and she said no such breed exists

I do not have a mobile number but I drove past them a few days ago and they looked like they were still operating, they had the gates open and signs out front.

After my encounter with a Dutch Shepherd biting me on the index finger the other day, I think I will have to get a pair.

I think K9 Pro might have them? send him a pm and he will be able to advise you on what collar would best suit your dog.

Looks good, what did you use as the mold?

Thanks for the responses, I shall visit the Caringbah pet care 2000 store.

There would not be too many cement ones around, if any. Try looking for concrete ones instead, Yep, it has been a long week.

Can anyone recommend a supplier of cement dog bowls in Sydney? I have visited a few nursery's but had no luck of finding anything suitable.

problem solved.

A .25 Caliber handgun.

A truly dominant dog would object to being placed on its back and the person attempting to do so would get hurt.

Cute pups. Looks like you have a couple of mainly tan ones in the litter?

Over the years many KNPV line Xmalinois and Xdutch shepherds have been able to gain FCI pedigree papers, when you do some research you will find out how prolific this is. Specialist canines is a good place to start. http://www.specialistcanines.com/forum119/

So is your picture a dog playing a tug or an attack dog at work? It is a picture of a Labrador playing tug.

Good god, Why do you have to always try and bring extreme examples in to your posts to try and make a point on something you clearly are not educated on. Are there people in Australia that train and sell dogs with a poor level of training to people who should not own them...Yes. Does that have anything to do with this thread or Stud Dog's post...no... I have no problem with educating people regarding working lines or protection training but you are constantly arguing with experienced handlers and trainers on the forum with no reasonable point to be made. You openly state this is a "new world" for you and you lack knowledge on the subject yet you continue to argue and twists posts around to try and make an arguable statement.

Looks good.

Oh don't spoil all the fun by saying caution is a good approach. I'm sure there are many who are enjoying these posts about the right kind of bite an attack dog should have. It might be good that hard protection dogs enthusiast are letting it all hang out for everyone in the world to read. Some could say this thread is a public service, that people needs to know all about this corner of the dog world and to have full understanding of the term 'aggression' when applied to dogs bred and trained to attack humans. That is how I see it, but I am a libertarian. K9Nev is not saying caution is a good approach. He is saying letting people run with misinformation is a good approach. Letting people run with misinformation is more dangerous than informing them on the truth... Oh that's right BSL started because politicians were informed of the truth instead of being mislead by false reports and misinformation about the breeds involved.

K9 Nev it is no good for you to post your general thoughts on working line German Shepherds and the word aggression in this thread as you are just confusing people with your constant comments on extreme aggression. This thread was started due to a dolers concern over the word aggression in an advertisement. I am amazed as to how this thread has gotten to be 9 pages long over something so simple as the word aggression. Seeing as aggression isn't part of German Shepherd dogs nature I wonder what the role of a decoy is? I always thought the role of a decoy was to stimulate different forms of aggression in a dog. Depending on the end goal the decoy will dictate to the dog what form of aggression to display and for how long before being rewarded. I guess seeing as "aggression is not in a German shepherds nature" decoys have been winging it so far with training? I am not talking about extreme forms of aggression and neither was the breeder in there advertisement. I find it stupid that some posters on here are continuing to argue when they clearly do not understand forms of canine aggression and how it can be displayed.

:D So you want people to read critiques/descriptions (someones opinion) on Fax vom Grenzganger, Dares z Geradonu, Dolf z Zakovy Hory but then you dismiss critiques/descriptions on the dogs listed in the advertisement...interesting.

What are you talking about? Dogs that lack confidence and "light up fast" are not dogs that would refuse to out... These dogs have extremely poor bites, they mouth and bounce off from what they are biting, they "out" very easily.

The breeder is selling working line German Shepherds. They are not selling "Hard protection dogs" or "security dogs" they are advertising for interested persons to contact them regarding working line puppies... I think to much emphasis has been placed on the fact that they have listed there dogs have "aggression" out of the 62 litters of German Shepherd litters advertised only 3 breeders comment on training and socialisation in there ad. I guess this breeders main fault is they put too much information in there advertisement. I guess they need to copy some of the other breeders on DOL and only announce they have a litter of pups available with a physical description on each puppy with no comments based on there temperament.