Jeff Jones

The police officer did not have the luxury of watching the dogs interact for 2 minutes like everyone else has. Going from the audio the police officer was given information that a couple of dogs were attacking another dog and the occupants of the house. The police officer entered the yard, the dog rushed at the police officer in an agressive manner and was shot. I can tell from the dogs body language that it would be unlikely that he was going to bite the police officer in that instance, a lot of you can see the same thing, but we are able to see it having an above average ability in reading dogs. His actions are justified and I am not going to criticize them. He perceived the dog was going to attack him and acted accordingly.

Good post Erny.

I have had a game council licence for numerous years holding categories for dog, bow and firearms. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I am not a spousal abuser...

I am picturing a half dog half squid combination.

That is it?

With Steve and Glenn mentoring / looking over the trainers I would be fairly comfortable in there ability.

Odelia's barrister Phillip Ramos should have known he was fighting a losing battle walking in to a courtroom with Judge Syme. Helen is pretty good at bringing people back to reality.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=41c_1300390937 A funny video someone sent to me. Just be careful with opening up some of the other videos also hosted on the website, they are not all family friendly.

I do not apply anything to my leather leads. If they get wet hang them up out of direct sunlight to dry.

Mr Jeff, I am remembering a dog imported to Australia, perhaps in working circle you may seen him called Fax vom Grenzganger probably 10 year ago mentioning the black Shepherd dog I am thinking yes?. Fax and also Iwo vom the Grenzganger were dominant dogs, beautiful stance with the gazing eye of intent, but never nasty dogs. There are many others of course, but the Fax is one dog perhaps maybe indentify the type of personality in the dominance I speaking of? Joe Hi Joe, The dog in the video was a Fax son. It was a good video but seems to have been taken down. Greetings Jeff I think we reading on the same page with the dominance trait, as is not surprize to me learning of the Fax son. Fax was a very dominant dog, better dog (in my opinion) than his father Dolf ze Zakovy Hory (Czech lines). Dolf had the dominance and higher in the social aggression but hard dog to handle very reactive dog. Fax had the intent in his eyes, don't mess with me look, but was very calm stable dog until pressurised. Shame the youtube is not presenting video you speak, would have been good for demostration to the folks of dominance in the working dog that we speak. Joe Yes, That would have been good to see.Any other you can think of Jeff? Unfortunately no. I will try and have a look over the weekend for some videos but not many people post these videos online, they post the ones of them undertaking training / bite work. Doing a search on youtube is useless, every second person believes they own a dominant dog.

Mr Jeff, I am remembering a dog imported to Australia, perhaps in working circle you may seen him called Fax vom Grenzganger probably 10 year ago mentioning the black Shepherd dog I am thinking yes?. Fax and also Iwo vom the Grenzganger were dominant dogs, beautiful stance with the gazing eye of intent, but never nasty dogs. There are many others of course, but the Fax is one dog perhaps maybe indentify the type of personality in the dominance I speaking of? Joe Hi Joe, The dog in the video was a Fax son. It was a good video but seems to have been taken down.

There was a great youtube video displaying a dominant black German Shepherd interacting with various people it had never met before in a new environment. It was a great video which showed the over confident disposition of the dog and how it chose to interact with the people.

What is/was you're idea of a dominant dog and how it acts?

I agree with most of you're post JoeK. The only thing is you state the dominant dogs you have dealt with have a wide window when they first growl to when they may bite and air snapping. I have not found any of the dogs I would classify as dominant to complete air snapping and they are quick to engage. This does not mean they are unpredictable, it is fairly easy to predict when a dominant dog is going to engage. I will agree with you're comment on training dominant dogs. If you are silly enough to fight dominance with dominance you better be prepared to be seriously hurt in the process...

You definitely know when you come across a truly dominant dog. I have been around and owned working dogs for many years yet I have not owned many dogs that I would label as being "truly dominant" These dogs do not display outward aggression or try to dominate every person or dog they come in to contact with...

Mandela's already read the pilot manual. Hurry up, will ya?

Indeed. I wish something as simple as fetching a thong would impress me. If I had the ability to travel back in time to when I was 5 years old I would, at that age I might have found a dog completing a simple task impressive like you do. :D I might instruct my dog to build a time travel machine.

Lame.

Good work.

Mr Jeff, how are you again. My difference is if someone is smart to come on here and ask a question with the training, I would not think of them as too stupid to accept and answer, yes? Niether, I think is pulling on the leash is rocket science to explain for somebody to understand, very basic behavior that most dogs do to pull on the leash at some time. I agree is sensitive perhaps if somebody dogs wants to bite old ladys on a walking stick, maybe then we butt out for a trainer to assessment of the dog, but pulling on the leash Mr Jeff, my opinion is worthy to discuss, why not? Joe Mr Joe, I am fine... I do not believe because someone is capable of posting on an online forum that they have the ability to be able to successfully diagnose there dogs behaviour and apply a training method which they do not have experience in. Whilst this is a fairly minor problem, it could be complicated through inappropriate training techniques and the handlers inability in applying them. For this reason I always suggest people contact an appropriate trainer and if possible make personal recommendations. And as other posters have suggested I recommend they contact K9 Pro...

I fail to see the similarities. If Fuzzy82 was anything like you there post would have been 10 times longer, they would of made an association between training dogs and training wild hares and they would of thrown in random links to Panksepp.

Talking about training is fine, being able to effectively read the dog and apply appropriate techniques depending on the situation is a completely different matter and takes experience. I would rather see someone recommended to see an appropriate trainer than have them attempt methods and training techniques above there level of experience.

and what does mmmmhmmmm mean Jeff??? (not being nasty just geniunely curious??) and is it in response to my post or JoeK's post?? JoeK's...

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