Jeff Jones

probably because this is a public forum and i am posting a reply to an open question based on my experience with dogs.....so would be different to other peoples.. i am not trying to convince anyone i dont see how i am forcibly pushing my views but i promise to be a good sheep from here on in

the rspca 3 years ago also wanted sirens on dog squad cars to be removed as it ads stress to a dog....

with the dog jumping it would be an undesirable reaction, so would be a problem... ..................

where in the above statement does it say the dog has weak nerves? in the example that was given there was no talk of the dog recovering and approaching the pan,

who said this? schutzhund dogs are trained week in and week out to go through the same routine and ignore all distractions.....theres no surprises in schutzhund training the dogs know the routine and whats comming up next, the selection criteria for service dogs used to run them through various exercises one of such was to drop a pan close to the dog.....if the dog coward away the dog would not be selected... eta i am not recommending this as a suitable test for service dogs just stating it was a crucial part of the selection criteria

just verifying some details do i think a highly reactive dog has nerve issues....yes i still stick by both answers

the dog still has nerve problems as the dog jumped i research the pedigree and temprament of the parents, the dogs i own are from sch and nvbk lines, so are of the genetic make up to be acceptable for the work i want them to do when looking through there pedigree and at the pups themself i look for strong nerves first, and prey drive second.

technically you do, but schutzhund dogs have been training for 18 months there not really re-acting to an unkown threat, they know the re bite/defence of handler is comming. for protection depends on the site and what you want the dog for, weak nerved dogs make better watch dogs as they are more reactive to sudden noises and respond with fear barking,

yes everything, edit for quotes

oops hit enter too soon, recovery is how long it takes the dog to overcome what has placed the reaction of fear into the dog....quick example, dog gets scared by sudden and loud noise of the vaccuum turning on, dog runs out of the room then turns around and re enters the room with the vaccuum cleaner running and walks over and sniffs the vaccuum cleaner. the next time the vaccuum cleaner is suddenly turned on the dog doesnt even notice, ahhh that example sucked lol will try and think up better one later, to tell stress depends on the situation your in each dog can display different signs

ahhh good topic, generally you look at the recovery time of how long it takes once the dog has been exposed to a stressfull environment to fully recover, depends on a few things from the environment your working the dog in and what your doing at the time, a dog can be working in prey drive and not be distracted by its environmental surroundings and work through stress, this is mainly a problem of breeders of dogs with intense prey drive, (malinois and dutch shepherds). so basically you cant work in prey drive and evaluate a dogs nerves, dont know how i went at throwing a few ideas around i probably created more confusion

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Good, another thing you can try is have her showing interest for the orbee and stand beside her on lead and throw the ball and dont let her get it for around 10-15 seconds she should be lunging and digging into the ground to try and get at the ball then release her to retrieve it after a while, do that near the fence at the park then after a couple of days of increasing the time you throw the ball to the time she gets it you should be able to clip her onto the fence without her knowing,

did you tie her upto the same part of the fence as where she got injured? if so try it in a different area i would try at the local park when noones around does she shut down if shes near the fence and on lead doing drive work?

you dont really want to be swapping around equipment for a tie out incase the dog realises it only has to work when its in a harness, unless u want the harness as a trigger with the orbee try putting a bell inside one of the holes where the rope goes so it makes a noise when you swing it around / throw it, that way the dog has a visual and audible stimuli

i would leave her for a day or two and not do any drive building with her just get her used to being tied up again so she feels comfortable on the tie out, maybe for the next 2 days have her in the crate while your building/training in drive with rex just so she can watch and see how much fun he is having. (hopefully she will be going nuts in the cage watching you and rex having heaps of fun) just remember to try an act as if nothing happend so the pup doesnt pick up on you being abit stand off ish in training.

around 45 mins training for each dog twice a day, i do 12 hour shifts at work but sneak home half way through to let them out for a run ;), but all can go for 12 hours in the crate,

put the pup away in its crate with a pigs foot to chew on, i currently have 2 adult dogs and a 18(i think) week old german shepherd pup they are crated at all times i let them out about 6 times a day for toilet breaks plus training, but apart from that they are in there crates all the time, where are your other dogs when you are building drive with your pup?

will your dog play when hes at the park? if so try different parks in your local area then move into the actual carpark of the park, then try playing with him within site of the park, have you been training him in drive with his lead on whilst he is in the back yard? might be that his lead is on and hes thinking hes just going for a walk

dont care how well known the trainer is or how many certificates they have they are still un qualified to use a prong... compliance through violence is a term used when you are correcting a dog that is having a negative reaction to something... ie.. dog is scared of another dog and trys to cowar away / run off from another dog and it is corrected with the prong collar...any dog that is having a negative effect shouldnt be forced into compliance.. (even tho its not violent its a training term used by sports dog handlers) was i at this years delta course?...no i wouldnt waiste my money

you werent told straight out that they were cruel, but they did use a poor example of how a un-qualified trainer would use a prong on gaining compliance through violence. thats good if your only doing it for the certificate but i fail to see how thats going to help you train your dog

i tend to find most high drive dogs continually walk around in circles whilst in there pen if they dont gain enough mental stimulation / excersize,

schutzhund clubs have puppy classes ETA: i cant see too many breeders of dogs that are eligible for schutzhund to be too concerned about there dogs undertaking this type of training over general obedience, most working dog breeders have a purchase price refund for the dog for gaining schutzhund titles

ohh hes going to be an absoloute lil terror if you follow rexys advice it should work, let us know how he goes

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