Jeff Jones

I think we need to register the idea before someone steals it. Ducky at least get the dog assessed by K9 Force, I highly doubt you have selected a pointer with the correct temperament to commence this style of training. As Sardog has said: "GUNDOGS ARE FUNDOGS"

3. it is highly likely your dog will just stand and point at the person as they are attacking you.

There is no shame in going to a trainer. ETA: There are a few companys in Aus Kavik, one is a prefered Government supplier.

You are playing tug of war for too long. You need to be using a different word for the out not just a generic term which means “no” in the long run you will be confusing your dog. I would have a first aid kit on stand by…taking food from a puppy and sticking fingers in your dogs mouth when it is commencing bite work and is in a high state of arousal are 2 completely different things. You need to keep reading books as you obviously haven’t found one that correctly teaches you how to train the out. The fact that you were using a towel shows how professional you are/were in your training...good luck with doing the bite work yourself. You can train a protection dog without using a hidden arm and training a dog in protection shouldn’t make the dog any less friendly unless you are doing it wrong and applying too much pressure… Your theory is wrong, but good luck with it anyway….. That is because you are not training your dogs to any kind of standard.

Tonymc. I believe the same thing tmc, many breeders claim to be breeding working dogs but dont measure there dogs in working roles or against other dogs. ETA: great article Vickie.

darthgsd what club are you training at?...goodluck with it. They are a great team, the results show on the scoreboard.

Ducky read it in a book :rolleyes:

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You could always just get this book.

2. It consists of both Theory and Practical work...and I dont remember having "lectuorers" but anyway. 3. It would depend on how much the protection dog trainer was charging and how many clients they had ... you guessed right.

1. I didnt call you a moron...(I was thinking it though). 2. I have formal studies in "Criminological Theories" which includes Criminal Profiling... 3. The FBI doesnt pay enough... I can count the number of books with useful information on protection training on 2 hands, good luck in sifting through the mountains of crap that is out there.

Then speak to K9 Force who posts on this forum... www.k9force.net There are enough morons with poorly trained Protection dogs in NSW without you adding yours to the tally. K9 Force will be able to guide you through the training process granted your dog has the correct temperament to undergo training.

Ducky what state are you in.

Mr Murphy passed away some time ago. Claudia is on another forum I am on. Yes the kollenbergs have done well....

Kinda OT but: Who is the instructor? and what is his experience? I would do the course if it is going to become mandatory to complete next year anyway. I would prefer to handle my own dog when working not a security companys. I would use one of there dogs for the course though. Cramet and Nekhbet who post on here have done Security Dog Handler work maybe pm them if they dont reply in here

http://www.k9centre.com/ Follow the links to Termite detection.

Excellent post Poodlefan.

I hope you are joking… The training you are going to try and commence with your dog are specialist areas of dog training. You cannot just "wing it". You need a qualified trainer to guide you through the process. These are not things you can do simply after reading a book.

Do you know how to use any of that equipment?

No worries Seita. Kurt is a good man with some very good equipment. I have some equipment from him that is over 7 years old that I still use.

Anyone can join.

I agree which is why I suggested to contact Craig rather than go by someone elses opinion. You can contact Craig by clicking on the link in my signature and becoming a member his username is "SearchandScent"

Maybe contact him and see what kind of response you get?

you can also contact Kurt at Dogquip he is in SA. If you email him he can send you out a brochure or pics and prices as required.

http://www.petresortsaustralia.com/