black_dog

From 240V, I reckon that a dog would be (a) 100% fine, no effect, or (b) paws up. In most cases the former. You wouldn't get hidden effects. Really important with kids and dogs to have RCD protected circuits. Physically impossible to get shocked.

But isn't it possible to train them not to bark? Particularly when you are on the property. The water squirting has stopped both my dogs barking within 2 days. If Diesel barks now then a head out the door and 'grrr' to let him know we disapprove is all it takes.

You're right, desexemall, apologies - that wasn't my intention. I just reread the thread, and hosing down seemed, I dunno, kind in comparison. Is there really any situation that requires surgically debarking a dog?

I'm going to sound like the right bastard compared to you guys. Rig a hose/sprinkler up so that you can operate it without the dog seeing you. When he barks... give him both barrels. We used a citronella collar years ago with our first dog. Had only limited effect and I wouldn't use one now, but the dog sure smelled sweet when we got home! Actually, I skipped past this without reading it. I don't sound like the bastard after all.

A couple of eye rings, and a rope with a handle on the end...

We had a gentle leader when our 9 month lab/shepherd was smaller, but he really didn't like it. Did stop him pulling. Had longer term success with just stopping every time he put tension on the lead. You have to be rigorous and put up with slo-o-o-ow trips to the shops the first few times, but it's worth it. We also food rewarded a 'with me' heel command. Now on extendable or short flat leads he doesn't pull at all.