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If you cannot discuss the agreement, then you cannot expect advice. If you are absolutely convinced that the breeder is in breach, then your only recourse if you wish to take things further is through a lawyer and civil means. And that is going to cost you some pretty serious dollars. Good luck. Hope you get it sorted to your satisfication.

I own the bitch once she had a litter, its not about docked tails, interested to know if its cruel to the dog to travel after a litter and caesar. The breeder did not tell me the dog went to Perth and at that time did not know the vet so makes me wonder why. I was told a pregnant bitch can't fly, I understand your comments regarding car travel thank you for you comments. Breeder is not complying to terms of contract. And I ask again......did you have a written agreement? Sorry I forgot to answer. Yes I do. Were these so called "breaches" of clauses contained within the agreement? Did they specify that the bitch had to remain on the premises of the "breeder" at all times or that the puppies were, or were not to be docked? Did the agreement specify any payment? You should probably seek legal advice if you wish to take things further. The controlling bodies will not get involved in what they term a civil matter.

I own the bitch once she had a litter, its not about docked tails, interested to know if its cruel to the dog to travel after a litter and caesar. The breeder did not tell me the dog went to Perth and at that time did not know the vet so makes me wonder why. I was told a pregnant bitch can't fly, I understand your comments regarding car travel thank you for you comments. Breeder is not complying to terms of contract. And I ask again......did you have a written agreement?

What does your agreement say? I assume you have something in writing? Whenever I have allowed a bitch to be placed on breeder's terms there has been no exchange of money and the bitch and pups and any expenses arising from them are my responsibility. And in addition to that, the placement of the litter are my responsibility, and to put it bluntly....my business and my business alone. Although I did share the details with the other owner of the bitch if requested to do so, although most didn't really care as long as they got their girl back. I also only ever held them to one litter and after the bitch whelped, she was signed over to them in sole ownership. I guess you need to clarify with the "breeder" what the terms and conditions of you having the bitch were. And if there weren't any, then you have learned a lesson and are wise in hindsight. And if there WERE terms and conditions which have been broken, then I guess you have to decide how far you wish to take the matter.

Is anybody else reading this thread totally confused? To the OP...normally the "breeder" of a litter of puppies is the person in whose name the bitch is registered at the time of the whelping of the puppies. Yet you say that she is your bitch and the "breeder" hasn't paid you....how does that work? No, it's NOT "normal" for a bitch to be taken to another location for whelping and tail docking of the litter....HOWEVER...until March 16th some breeders from the East were using a loophole in the WA law so as to enable them to have docked puppies. Not all breeders did this, it was an individual decision. Many, like myself, were content to abide by the law of our own state and leave our puppies undocked.

Sounds a bit suss to me, why didn't you know that your dog went to Perth? And surely the breeder would know the name of the vet, presumably they had a bill to pay? Or did the bitch and puppies go to another party for the procedures? If so, then I think there was only one vet in WA that was performing docking so it wouldn't be too hard for a person to find out which vet it was. What's the problem anyway? Provided it was done before March 16th, the procedure is legal. If the bitch and puppies survived the travel and docking, then isn't it a bit late to be crying over spilt milk now?

Not so much the tail docking issue as it has been done prior to this date. Interested if its cruel to transport a dog that just given birth to 8 pups and had surgury 3-4 days travel back to vic in summer temperatures? I guess it would depend upon the individual definition of cruel, but there is no way that I would put a bitch and puppies through it.

What you're looking for is a dramatic temperature drop. A temp that has "averaged" over a period of days can be said to be a baseline temperature. Quite often, people say that taking temps doesn't work. In these cases, most have actually missed the drop. It can drop but not stay down. I would be taking her temperature every few hours if you are unsure and chart it properly....don't take a few temps in a day and then "average" them....that is really quite pointless. You will see a sudden dip, generally below the 37 degree mark, not a gradual creep.

Staffords cockroach and smile as well!! AND they can sleep anywhere!!!!!

American Cocker Spaniels are NOT a cross between a Cavalier and a Cocker. And no, they don't bark with an accent.

Stafford jaws do NOT lock! Nor are they human aggressive.

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They are also particularly talented at screaming!

Busy....very, very busy! On the subject of "black" Staffords....I found some photos today, they are the "blackest" dogs that I have had.....but if you tipped them both upside down, they both had one single brindle stripe inside their left back leg. Am Ch DayDream Love And Rockets (Imp USA) As a baby..... And at 3. And his "lookalike" daughter, Ellz Tattoo You As a baby...... And at nearly 10 years of age....

My memory isn't always good but I know that the couple I saw were darker than that puppy, which was what had me asking the questions in the first place. They were very dark, dark enough that Wendye actually carried them outside to see what colour they were in the normal daylight. But, be that as it may, I don't think I've said here that they ARE born black.....just that they can be very dark and almost look black. And as I said, I have seen that personally....what others have seen is their own experience (and the photos are great...I'd forgotten how cute Afghan babies are). When I worked at Calahorra I was fortunate enough to have experienced many whelpings and reared and trained many puppies of various ages in both Afghans and Whippets. That's an experience in itself!

It depends. Some people are allergic to the skin (dander) and some are allergic to the hair. And yet others are allergic to saliva.

Actually blue Afghans are born blue. I've had a few and they are definitely NOT black at birth. BUT they are not genetically dd so have black noses, they do however tend to have paler eyes. The dna colour study in Afghans: http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/Afghans.html Interesting. Not surprising that I'm behind the times, last time I spoke to Wendye about Afghans was back in about 1991!! The couple that I did see when I worked there though, and the ones which made me ask her were definitely dark at birth.....not the black-black that I'm accustomed to seeing in American Cockers, but certainly a very dark colour.

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In the eyes of a dog, "kitty crunchies" almost deserve a food group of their own!!!! My lot will find one, no matter where it is hidden or how old it is. I've had to resort to the old baby gate at the bathroom door trick to keep the K9s out of the bathroom where the litter trays live, otherwise it isn't unheard of to find one of them waiting to catch the forbidden fruit "at the source" and the kitties do NOT like that one little bit. K9 noses tend to be rather cold on the warm bits!

My hardware (rings and clips) come from either Birdsall Leather in Sydney or Lefflers in Melbourne (via mail order). I do beading occasionally too and there are some really good online bead stores if you Google. Ebay is another source for beads too.

I think it's a breed-by-breed, individual dog type thing. I cannot run another bitch of ANY breed with my Stafford bitch and she is even starting to get narky with her 5 month old daughter now so separation there is becoming imminent. Yet I've had other bitches who have been just fine with same-sex "friendships". You're not really going to know until you try it IMO. BUT you must also have a contingency plan worked out for a resolution if you do try it and it goes pearshaped.

I will add that I have the drybed from Peperone? May pay to be aware of that if you intend ordering from them. I won't say that the issues/concerns I had were MAJOR ones, but they were annoying enough for me to cope with so I thought I would bring them to everybody else's attention. Maybe others aren't as pedantic as I am! I will also add that apart from the first couple of weeks, I LOVE the stuff. It is great for crate bedding, is fabulous in the trolley at shows and I have a large piece on the backseat of my car for the dogs to lay on. They know that "their" spot is the spot with the pink blanky. I'll also be ordering more, in different colours. BUT I won't be ordering any more greenbacked stuff. I prefer the other type.

Remember that there are effectively two types of "blue" gene. The dilute blue and the greying blue which is what Kerry Blues are. They start out black and turn grey with age. If I recall rightly from past conversations with Wendye Slatyer when I worked for her, the Afghan "blue" gene is the greying gene. A blue Afghan will invariably begin life looking like a black and "fade" as it grows.

Current thinking of some of the top repro vets in the USA is breed young and breed often.

OMG, don't talk to me about vocal Staffords! In all the years I have been involved with them, I thanked the LORD I didn't have one that made "monkey noises". I hadn't bred one, didn't own one and used to get REALLY shirty with the dogs at shows that made them! Until now.....I have one who not only makes monkey noises, but seems to have competitions with himself to make them better (or worse depending upon how you view them). NOTHING seems to work on him.....he plays with the spray bottle. He gets louder if you ignore him. He gets louder if you talk to him. I'm getting ready to throttle him and see if THAT works!!!!!!!!!!!