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To be honest, I'm not sure I'd agree with shaving the puppy off. Usually the hair comes back thicker and most often even more difficult to manage.

I'm not kidding Tassie....it's true. Think about if you go to a shop or somewhere that has had soft drink spilled on the floor. What do your feet do? Same principle applies with soft drink on dog feet, they become tacky. It's cheaper than any of the packaged products and generally a lot easier to obtain and can be reapplied whenever needed.

Practice practice practice. Short grooming sessions often until it doesn't stress him any more. I do wish people with longhaired puppies would spend more time with the babies in the nest, doing grooming type things. For my part, my American Cocker puppies have their faces clipped weekly from 3 weeks of age and are bathed and dryed and accustomed to brushing when they go to their new homes having been bathed weekly and brushed every day and been accustomed to laying on their sides to be brushed as well. They still carry on a bit if somebody new attempts anything because like most "kids" they'll try it on with a stranger, but as a rule, they're quite happy to be brushed and pampered.

And the harder stool from the bones would certainly help to evacuate the glands. As an example. I owned an American Cocker for a few years. He was fed mostly a raw diet with only a few handfuls of dry food here and there. Like all my dogs, anal glands weren't an issue. Until I gave him to my parents and he was put on the crap food they used to feed....cheaper dry food, canned food and table scraps. From then on, like clockwork every few months he was at the vet having his anal glands done. When he came back to me for the brief time after my parents both passed, he was back on "my" diet and had no further issues with his bum. Thought it was quite interesting and said a few "told you so's" to my parents..... :D

Had just as much success dipping the feet into a saucer of Coca Cola and letting them dry.

Generally if you feed a good fibre, rich food with lots of roughage to stimulate the anal glands, they don't need manual emptying at all. I am sorry, I don't know what you feed, but I do have to say that dogs which are fed mostly dry food diets are the worst for anal gland issues.

I'm another who tends to use different things on different dogs and I have to say that I'm not overly fond of the heavy perfume of the Plush Puppy products as a rule. I also mix things up a bit and find that if I use the same products (shampoos and conditioners) for a long time, they don't seem to work as well so every couple of months I do a major Clarifying Shampoo bath to get excess "whatever" out of the coat so that I can start again. That said I use the Revivacoat in a spray bottle with water for help keeping sun damage at bay and like Tassie, just for quick brushes between baths on the hairy dog. I have also found the Protein Conditioner to be very good and depending upon the coat I will do a final rinse with a small amount of Seabreeze Oil.

I'm sorry but if you truly want to find out what is wrong, the vet is the only answer. I can understand how you feel about going to the vet, but really, is your fear a fair reason to withhold treatment that might make your girl more comfortable? She doesn't understand why you feel like you do, she just understands that she has a sore leg. You have the power to help fix that.........

Long standing myth - this is not correct. The only 'person' that can determine liability is a court of competent jurisdiction. Could this depend upon what State the person resides in? I know of somebody who was in a spot of bother for having such a sign on their gate when an "incident" occurred.

Well yes, I think I'd be more than a little bit distressed at the turn of events. But having now dealt with two bereavements within a year (my parents) and their dogs and affairs, I think the lesson to be learned from your situation, is to have anything concerning animals put into writing and added to the will. That way, the intentions are crystal clear and nobody else can make the decisions.

The sign admits liability. The dog and his owners are walking a very thin line.

Short answer is yes.

This much is true....so getting antsy with everybody else because they are missing YOUR point is applying a tad bit of a double standard wouldn't you think?

Yeah but GSD temperament testing, and shows, take everything to the "umpteenth" level anyway. And GSD's for many years were allowed to do things at their shows that were not allowed at other breed shows (double handling for example), so it's a bit hard to compare because it truly can be like apples and oranges IMO. :) That said, many of us terrier people carry "squeaky rats" in our pockets to animate our dogs, so it's really only a step up until somebody decides to try the real thing! :laugh: (joking.....kind of........ )

Correct, yet I don't think BYB'ers should get the advantage of being able to call their products purebred, hence my opinion ;) But unfortunately there isn't anything much that you, or anybody else, can do about it until legislation makes it illegal for people to breed unregistered pedigreed (purebred) dogs. We have legislation in Tasmanian now to prevent BYBers from breeding unregistered cats, but I can't see anything like that happening for dogs for a long time, not whilst dog registrations are such large revenue raisers for government at various levels.

I get your point and I disagree. There are many reasons why a purebred dog wouldn't have a pedigree and comes from two parents who are of the same breed. I haven't always "issued" a pedigree to people who have taken one of my (registered and pedigreed) purebred dogs as a pet. In one instance, many years ago now when I first started breeding, I made the mistake of giving two dogs of opposite sexes to people who were related to each other. You guessed it, they bred these two dogs together. The offspring were UNMISTAKEABLY examples of the breed, but didn't have pedigrees. So by your definition, aren't purebred. Which is just plain wrong. And I daresay, this isn't an isolated thing and is how MANY "purebred" dogs have been made.

So you can tell whether a dog is a good ratter by seeing how it reacts to other dogs of the same breed when placed in close proximity? No, obviously not...that's being a tad literal don't you think? But you CAN see if a dog has "game" temperament if it is placed against opposition IN CONTROLLED CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!

See again, you're a bit misguided. IF she was a member of the canine controlling body then she only has to abide by the COE for housing dogs. If she is a registered breeder then she has to abide by the breeding COE, so if she has not applied for a prefix then she isn't a registered breeder. Now where it gets murky is that not all states require ALL puppies born to be registered, only that any puppies that ARE to be registered are all registered at the same time. Some states have only changed their rules relatively recently. There are also situations where many registered breeders do not register litters...oops litters etc. That doesn't mean that every breeder should be disciplined surely? And the same goes for dogs in some breeds which CANNOT be registered due to issues of colour, conformation etc. And of course, this is all based upon my first sentence in the second paragraph...IF SHE WAS A MEMBER. And it has to be proven.

I'm fully aware of that, and I'm using that example to point out the flaw in most peoples logic of the "if both parents are the same breed then the resulting puppy is a purebred". I wasn't responding to you in particular, just to the sentiments in general and responding with my own version of the interpretations as I see them.

Dogsaremyworld, I appreciate your passion, but some of your sentiments about canine controlling bodies and registered breeders are a tad skewed. There is no "law" preventing a registered breeder from breeding crossbreds. The canine controlling body rules only state that the breeder should not use their registered dogs to breed to unregistered animals of the same breed or registered or unregistered animals of any other breed. Canine controlling bodies are ONLY registering bodies and have no real jurisdiction in law so prosecution for any reason is highly unlikely, unless brought about civilly by another party. If a dog can be identified by pedigree, whether registered or unregistered then that IMO (and the opinion of many others) makes them recognisable as that breed. Take Staffordshire Bull Terriers for example. One of the most overbred, and POORLY bred breeds on earth (probably along with Boxers, Labradors, Golden Retrievers, German Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels etc). There are many that only slightly resemble the breed yet which are still from "pedigreed and purebred" animals. There are many in the ring that simply don't belong there yet the difference is that they are from registered breeders and have ANKC registration documents. In my eyes, they are no different.

1. A "moodle" doesn't exist. It is actually a Maltese x Poodle. Condensing names and creating buzz words doesn't make it any different to what it is. 2. A Maltese x Poodle is not a purebred dog by the definition of most reputable and responsible breeders and dog owners. The original dogs behind the Maltese and the original dogs behind the Poodle may well have been "pure bred" but they crossed the line when the first cross breeding was done. 3. Pedigree papers may or may not be an indicator of purity of blood. It would actually be just as easy for the person who bred the Maltese x Poodle litter to provide a pedigree document if both parents had a documented pedigree as it would be for a registered breeder, however any pedigree which incorporates two or more DIFFERENT breeds isn't necessarily classed as purebred....semantics yes, definition yes, ETHICS....most certainly. 4. In the "real" world it would be just as possible for a REGISTERED purebred dog to have a dodgy "pedigree" as any non-registered dog, but the assumption is that an ANKC endorsed pedigree, whether Main or Limited is some degree of authenticity. There are exceptions of course but with the trend towards DNA testing becoming more common now, this is less and less likely as the months go by.

To be blunt, who honestly cares what sparring in the ring at a dog show looks like to the public? The reality is that most of the general public think dog shows and dog show people are weird anyway so why would sparring, under controlled conditions, be viewed any differently? There was a question in another thread asking how judges could see if a breed had "proper" temperament for the breed during the limited time available for an examination in the ring and the essentially "unnatural" conditions imposed by the show ring situation...for some terrier breeds....sparring is the answer.

This is sort of what I envisioned. She is day 3 and they are a bit flirty. I think early next week we will seperate and then see what happens on friday, that should be day 9. I'm not prog testing so am relying on them. My girl is very unlikely to tell him to piss off as she is submissive and loves his attention. Even now she is all over him and her only way of saying no is to lie down bless her :) You may find that the most submissive girls can be the most vocal when it is time to tell the boy to "eff off". Hormones can do very interesting things.

Just a little hint. Empty them in the bath. That way you can wash the secretions down the drain as soon as you've done what you need to do and can then wash your hands at the same time.

Yes. Except groups and general specials are not yet online, hence my post. Well excuse me for trying to help.