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Pup born approx 1.5 hours ago. Thought he was dead, but we rubbed etc for about half an hour and he started to move. Is now moving around but crying a lot and won't feed. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Congratulations everyone! The waiting is driving me mental. Our girls temp was down to 36.5 this morning, and she has been nesting today, but not actually in labour yet. I'm sure she's waiting till 2am to go LOL.

Lovely mix of colours BC4me! Had Zafira x-rayed last night to show six or seven pups - perfect!

Congratulations everyone on your puppies! We are off to the vet tonight for an x-ray to get a better idea on how many we are expecting. Vet saw approx four in the ultrasound, and she does not seem huge to me, so my guess is between four and six which would be lovely :-).

Here in Victoria greyhounds being tested for their green collar undergo the exact same assessment as our dogs for adoption. They are tested for predatory behaviour (small dogs, cats etc), resource guarding etc. A greyhound would fail our assessment if he was not safe around small dogs (not being safe around cats is not a fail), if he was absolutely terrified of people, if he barked constantly, if he was unsound etc.

The Pink Dog campaign will raise over $130,000 for the McGrath Foundation this year. What a shame if this campaign were to end because of the AR groups who trot out the same, outdated information time and time again. I have received several abusive phone calls this week regarding this. When politely questioned, not one of the callers had ever actually been to a dog track. I just wish they would put as much energy into researching the truth as they do into spreading the lies.

My understanding is that the legislation has not yet been through Parliament, but it is proposed. Snow Wolf, greyhounds are not muzzled because they are "likely to bite someone" - it is because some can and do exhibit very high predatory behaviour. I have a greyhound at home who would never, in a million years, pass GAP as she is in no way safe around small dogs. This is a positive step forward and, if managed correctly, will help see more greyhounds into homes as pets. I have to admit that it does worry me though that greyhounds are allowed off leash in public up there in NSW. CBL, the legislation does not cross boarders so I'm pretty sure you'll need to get your guy assessed there in NSW in order to not muzzle him. It will depend on the actual wording of the legislation.

My parents currently have a greyhound boarding there. My sister was phoned yesterday and asked to come and get her because of the flooding. Well done to Coldstream for being so organised :-)!

Our bitch, Zoe, had her ultrasound today and is confirmed in pup :-). Hope all the other mothers to be are doing well!

10th March greyhound puppies (our first attempt at a multi-sired litter!)

In our case, there is no free return (or refund) should we miss with either stud dog. It was a risk we chose to take. I think you'd just have to negotiate that with the stud owners first :-). Yes, lots of risk! But also lots of benefits should it all work :-)

As a greyhound owner, we'll have to pay $115 per puppy to Greyhounds Australasia to have them DNA tested. We can't do this until they are three months old, and after they have been ear branded and microchipped. Each pup must be DNA'd. I'm sure show dogs are quite different, and you may be able to DNA privately for less :-).

I've been speaking with Alistair Smith at Sandown today and he has done a few dual matings in show dogs so he seemed to know a bit about it. He said that all racing greyhounds that have been frozen here have been done using the "Camelot system" (not really sure what that means) so there is no problem mixing the semen. Obviously you wouldn't be using racing greyhounds so you'd just need to check that. I've gone back through the mating results and I've noticed that one of the dogs we've used has had quite a lot of misses, and Alistair today confirmed that the semen quality isn't great, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't end up with any of his pups. Both stud dogs are black so I don't think we'll be able to tell too much by the puppies colour LOL!

yes, it seems very risky. I've been unable to find out the post thaw motility for either stud dogs I've used, but if you could find that info prior, it would make the decision easier.

Rebanne, I've managed to find out a little more info about the process should you wish to try in the future :-). 1. The vet needs to thaw each vial as per usual then mix a drop of each together on a slide and check motility. If the semen has been frozen using different extenders, the extender of one may damage the semen of the other. 2. It seems that there is no value in putting one semen in one horn and the other semen in the other as I've been advised it will still come into contact with each other 3. I've heard that you can stack your odds a bit if the post thaw motility of one is higher than the other - you put more of the poorer semen in and less of the better semen. You do then however run the risk of getting few or no pups. Have found it very hard to find info about the whole process :-(. Our bitch is likely to be implanted over the weekend so fingers crossed!! Larissa

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Thanks Tashnchief, that's heartening to read. Did your vet pre-mix the semen prior to implanting? Or did they put one lot into one horn and the other lot into the other horn?

We're going to have a go and see what happens :-). Both stud fees are of a similar value, and both stud dogs are alive and well but neither do live cover - only frozen. This is pretty standard in the greyhound industry. Neither will offer a free return if we miss, but that is to be expected I guess. We breed very few litters, and only breed for ourselves (not to sell) so hopefully this will give us the chance of using two different sires without having to put our bitch through two pregnancies and two whelpings. Have a meeting with my vet on Friday to discuss further. It won't be the end of the world if we only end up with pups by one sire, but we certainly want to do all we can to increase our chances of getting pups by both dogs :-).

Thanks Schwarzbear - that's a great point. I've no idea what the post thaw motility of the semen is. Did your vet mention the possibility of implanting the semen from one dog into one uterine horn, and the other sire in the other horn??

And another question - does anyone know if it is best to mix the frozen from the two different sires prior to implanting, or better to do one after the other??

Bitch is being progesterone tested on Friday :-). The semen has been purchased so we're all ready to go. I'm not so keen as the chances are the stud dog I've picked will only produce one (or worse, none!) for us and the stud dog OH has chosen will dominate the litter LOL!

This is for a greyhound bitch - we seem to have very good success rates with frozen in greyhounds as it's all most people use now. Using multiple sires has just been allowed for greyhounds (for racing) so we're keen to give it a go. Would love to hear from others about their experiences too :-).

That's interesting Shelties N Dane. Did both sires have a good record using frozen?

Hi all, We are thinking of using two different sires (frozen semen) at the same time. I believe this is done a bit overseas (perhaps using fresh rather than frozen semen?) but not so much here. Has anyone had any experience doing this? If so, did you end up getting pups by both sires, or just one? Kind regards Larissa