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Out of the rules for UD 3. SCENT DISCRIMINATION Maximum Points: 45 Principal Feature: The dog, on command, to select the correct articles by scent and promptly retrieve. Description of Exercise: The dog must select by scent and retrieve an article, which has been handled by its Handler in each of the three tests (i.e. leather, metal and wood). The Handler will select the order in which the different articles are to be retrieved. Preparation: (i) On entering the Ring, the Handler must surrender the articles, which must be kept on the Judge's table. (ii) The Judge must designate one number/letter of each of the sets. (iii) The remaining 12 articles must be placed by hand and at random at least 150 mm apart by either the Judge or the Steward. The Affiliate conducting the fixture will provide a canvas if requested. The Exercise: The Handler, with the dog sitting at heel, will take up position as directed by the Judge, at least five (5) metres from and facing in the opposite direction to the articles. The Judge or Steward will offer the designated articles to the Handler. Judging commences at this point. Immediately after receiving the article, and before imparting his scent, the Handler must show and say the number to the Judge. The Handler's scent must be imparted only from his hands which must remain in plain sight at all times for the duration of the scent discrimination exercise. On order from the Judge, the Handler must immediately surrender the article to the Judge or Steward who will place it among the other articles either on the ground or on the mat as requested by the Handler. The Judge or Steward must not touch the scented article. On order from the Judge, the Handler and the dog will turn and face the articles. On further order, the Handler may place his hand gently over the dog's nose and may give a command to retrieve. The dog must go to the articles at a brisk pace, but may take a reasonable time to select the right one provided that he works smartly and continuously and does not pick up any article other than the one designated. After picking up the correct article, the dog must promptly return and sit directly in front of the Handler, and hold the article until given a command to surrender. The dog must remain sitting in front of the Handler until after the Judge orders 'Finish'. On the Handlers command, the dog must go briskly to the heel position, sit and remain in that 41 position. The Judge will take the article from the Handler and state 'Part Exercise Finished' or 'Exercise Finished' and then 'Article Correct' or 'Article Incorrect' followed by 'Take up Position' if further articles are to be retrieved. If the wrong article is retrieved in any of the tests, it will be removed in addition to the correct article and the remaining tests will be completed with fewer than 12 articles in the ring. Praise may be given to the dog between parts of the test. The same procedure will be followed in each section of the exercise. Orders from Judge: 'Take up Position', 'Select your Article', 'Thank You', 'About Turn', 'Send (Send Your Dog)', 'Take it', 'Finish', 'Part Exercise Finished', 'Exercise Finished', 'Article Correct ' or 'Article Incorrect'. Deductions: Zero Score: For a dog which fails on a single command to retrieve the designated article, or refuses to give up the article, does not deliver to hand, or anticipates the Principal Feature must be marked zero for the particular part of the exercise, and the Judge's Chart endorsed 'Non-Qualifying Score'. Substantial: For the particular part of the exercise in which the dog is slow in going out or returning, does not work constantly, plays with or excessively mouths the article, picks up the wrong article even though he puts it down immediately, fails to sit or finish, or anticipates the finish. Minor: For that particular part of the exercise, for minor mouthing or poor sits or finishes and where the article is dropped and immediately picked up without further command, if the Handler drops the article after it has been taken from the dog, for failure to carry out any of the lesser points of the exercise. Note: A 'non-qualifying' score in a part of this exercise shall be deemed to be a non-qualifying score for the whole of the exercise The articles: Scent Discrimination (UD): Scent Discrimination articles must consist of three sets of articles comprising five wooden, five metal and five leather. The size of the articles must be as near as practicable to: wood 150mm long, 16mm square; leather – 150mm long 25mm wide and a maximum to 6mm thick; metal – round 150mm long and min 10mm diameter to max 16mm diameter and may be knurled but shall not be coated or covered with any material. 18 Each set of articles must be legibly numbered 1-5 or alphabetically marked A-E and the articles in each set must be identical. The Scent Discrimination articles shall not be set out until the completion of the previous exercise. The Handler will supply a full set of Scent Discrimination Articles. A mat of canvas or similar material (excluding vinyl plastic) for the Scent Discrimination exercise for each U.D. ring and a spare mat will be provided by the Affiliate and must measure 1.5 metres by 1.5 metres and be pegged at the corners. The mat is to remain on the ground for the duration of judging and only removed or replaced if fouled.

Andrew was saying on Sunday he doesn't tie down, he uses the full set of articles and the dogs just tend to "know" by then, but then I'm sure he would have a lot of background work in the dogs knowing his scent etc, which would make it different than someone who hadn't started all the foundations so early My human brain finds it so hard to comprehend the way they can smell us!

Yeah the hose is good! lol He's a funny dog, nothing is as exciting at home as it is when we're out though! Dont worry, I'm not wanting to start it yet, just wanting to know how its done! lol and what order they get done in!

How do you start teaching this? Do you go straight to wood/leather and metal articles or can you start off with other things to get them the general idea?

Ok thanks

What is the reason behind not throwing the tug/ball/etc?

Oh well done!

Awww, it will be a nice City drive though!

Cool, DD will love us for this, it will be close for him!

Well there were only 3 of us, so we got special treatment! Tjose who didn't show up really missed out on a great day! We had some demos from UD dog Scott, gives me something to aim for now! Then a demo of SAR finding a lost person who needed theirs meds desperately (and some bushwalking) Wow those SAR dogs are fantastic! Then they were mean and made us get up and work with our dogs! Which was great and I found out Ed really loves garden hose, and was working nicely Then some yummy bbg lunch and a wine! Julie then gave us a demo on retrieving which is so cool, the dogs love it! Then the SAR dogs found a man on the run from a mental asylum hiding in a tree! Then back for some more work with the amateurs, picked up some great tips for me and Ed, I was really pleased Had some choccies and Ed tried to eat the whole box! Another reluctant demo by Bec before we left of heeling and fig 8 Forgive me if I forgot anything or anyone Oh and Julie I still have your garden hose

Yeah cool, where is Ascot Vale? I'll be in on that

OK, we need to set a new date for the next one or 2 I'm not available next weekend, or the weekend of the 9th June, but can do most other weeks, the 9am Sat was good as we were fresh and ready to go

It was great! Me with my 2, Dog dude, jesomil, julesp and Leo puppy Here are some vids Molly, cos I never post her up! (I do not have a favourite!) And her recall!!! I should put this as its own thread, she deserves it! Jesomil, too hard on yourself girl! (I spelt his name wrong too didn't i?) Leo heeling Kinta gaiting and stacking

The ratios are a guide, to start by, and then you adjust according to what condition the dogs are in, and if they fatten up or get skinny

Will post more later, but just wanted to say I had a great time today Thank you so much

Oh gosh, I am so sorry

I'll be leaving in a min, see you there

I dont see why not

LL I have just emailed you cos it seems I can't read threads properly! lol

Oh is it? Boooo It's not that far so I'm happy to go and wait it out if its not heavy I am out tonight so won't see what gets decided but will check here in the morn before I leave home

DD you ok? Jesomil, god like you could improve the enthusiasm of those turns anyway!!! lol

And he'll make me look good

We shall be there!

Yeah, definitely try for the money back! But what I'm saying is if you can't get it back, don't go to the classes and let the pups suffer because you're worried about it being wasted