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We feed Nutro as the basis of the diet. Our dogs also get chicken wings twice a week and sardines in oil once a week. We are not beyond giving a little raw meat as well when preparing casseroles in the winter, and they also get raw carrots and dried liver as treats. When we add food as above we cut back on the amount of dry.

Natural Balance also has chicken fat

Be careful to read the ingredients list THOROUGHLY, Proplan Salmon and Rice in fact contains animal fat, but they dont inidcate which one. It also containe maize gluten, wheat and maize (i.e. corn). Whilst Nutro do make a Lamb and Rice formula, it again contains poultry fat, as do many others. My understanding of the poultry fat is that it is an insignificant amount. Please pm if you would like a further investigation of the amount of poultry fat.

bullylvr, this poem can be applied to any breed and I know that they are all looked after, Carnage will also be there with some new friends.

Yep happy to help out with suppliers of Nutro

MrsD, MrsD guess what I have found in my bookcase Panda's clicker training notes, all you need is a folder and a two hole punch and they are yours, or you may need a plastic folder thinggy if they are going to be well used :p

I dont want to hijack your thread but have you considered Nutro?. It is available from 4 Paws and More, Keilor Park, and they also stock other brands.

I am taking the liberty of posting on behalf of my good friends Anne and David who have taken my furkids and family under their wings since our arrival in 2005. Mo had a suspected heart attack last night and went to the this afternoon. R.I.P. Mo and I know that Breeze, Sandy and many other shelties are looking out for you. Godspeed. Here is Laddie The Braveheart for Mo. Welcome. I am Laddie Braveheart, Second Year Resident of the Rainbow Bridge. This is your introduction to the Rainbow Bridge. I have been a resident here for a little over a year and am now a member of the Welcome and Orientation Committee, Shetland Sheepdg and Scottish Breed Division. I have the extreme honor of escorting you to the Scottish Ancrestral Section of the Rainbow Bridge where those of our kind wait. You have already received your Silver Harness, and it looks so good on you. Now, let us begin our journey. As you see there are fields of sheep and cows for the herding dogs, and over there are the lakes, marshes and fields for the hounds and sporting dogs to play. And here are Beau and Sam, the Goldens I lived with -- we visit often, after all we have loved and are waiting for the same Humons. {See ya later, me mates) Oh, look! The agility games are going on. This is one of the newer areas at the Bridge and they have just finished the Rally-O field--this time with the directions for each station written in Dog. All the areas at The Bridge are for all the animals here and we have a lot of fun together. I have even seen some of the cats at the swimming ponds. See that area over there? Where the sun shines bright and warm all the time, and there is a gentle mist for a few hours each day? That is where all the reptiles and amphibians are. They all have nice tree limbs and warm rocks to lounge on. But let's continue onwards. Oh, check out those hedges and trees - that is where the bunnies and the mice, rats, gerbils and ferrets are. I like to come down and watch them play they just have so much fun -the flurry of activity and squeaking for joy when one of their Humes is coming is a treasure. Now watch your step, this is the Large Animal area. Occasionally all the horses, mules, donkeys, even the cows and goats get a little carried away with the Herd Running Game and can give a smaller critter like us quite a surprise as they break the hill at full gallop. Even the pigs and chickens take part. Here, the hills get a little steeper and woods a little thicker. It is so much fun to run full speed, up and down the hills dodging the trees. Here you will see the 'exotic' animals. The tigers and lions and bears and wolves, all the animals thought of as wild but have hearts shared with humans. They, too will cross the Rainbow Bridge with their special person. But our journey carries us still further. You feel the air getting crisper? And look, your coat is fuller and your Silver Harness shines brighter. We are getting close. Now, step carefully we are crossing the Crystal Bridge. Here, the weather is always clear, the snow just the right depth and the tracks are, perfect. Since we have arrived during the afternoon, I can show you some of the activities we have. The Scottish Breeds have many interests and enjoy many different games. I know you are used to having your Humon hook your harness to the car or the lead but your Silver Harness has magic and will hitch to what ever you want. Over here are the sheep right next to the croft which has to be guarded and over there is on the far side of the isle, are the fields of joy, where you can run and play with your friends and share a ball or just laze away the sunny afternoon. And yes, there are a lot of other breeds up here all doing what they do best, even though the Humes arnt there to see you, we all gather around to watch you and enjoy your times as though they were ours. The Sammies are over there herding reindeer, and there are open streams for the Inuits and Greenlands to fish for salmon. The Shelties came up with a great idea that has now become a tradition with all the breeds. Each year during the National Breed Specialty there is a Rainbow Bridge Specialty Show. All the dogs who had show careers and those who just wanted to be a show dog go into the show ring and go around one more time. The Shelties have gotten permission to have visitors from Heaven during that time. Humes who have no dog with them are allowed to come visit and watch the show. Judges and Stewards come and take part. And the old breeders come to see how the breeds are developing and visit with their great-great grandpuppies. All the dogs participating the first time get their Silver Rosette. You see, every dog here is perfect. If you look around you see not only are there warm straw beds to rest on, but houses with soft sofas and fireplaces to just lounge on and swap stories. Many of the residents wait here for the night. That is the time all of the Scottish Breed dogs assemble. Each night a shelties team is formed and they run and play and herd the sheep and the cattle. They can be seen from earth as the Southern Lights and now we are getting members from the Northern, Eastern and Western Hemispheres, and they also run and play sometimes as far as the North Pole of earth, to give them lights too. Each March is a special run. That is when the Iditarod is run on earth and all the dogs who have raced and played and worked together, team up for a special display. Many of them are cheering on their Humes who are racing. Many of them have family members in the fields. It seems the Collies and the Borders work their hardest to make the most spectacular light display. Well, I think you are pretty well acquainted with the Rainbow Bridge both North and South, East and West. There are just a couple of other things you should know. You are able to see your Humes when you miss them most. They may have gotten a new puppy. That is good. It means they have started to heal from the loss they felt when you left. But remember, a part of your heart remained with them to replace the part of their heart they gave to you. Now, occasionally, your Human may be particularly sad and missing you. You are able to send your love to them any time. They will feel your love. It may be as a shadow in the corner of their sight, or the soft sound of your voice, or a gentle breeze caressing their cheek. And it will bring them comfort. And there is one special night, Christmas Eve. All the animals waiting for a special person gather together and send their gift of love to that person. That night we are able to see into that person's home and if the person looks, there is a star shining particularly bright. Just for them from us. Oh, I see the sun is setting and you are looking at all the dogs gathering together. Go, and run, play, run and jump, . It is your night. Godspeed. ed: Cause I cant see what I am typing

LOL, MrsD and her OH and I are sneaking out of the Nationals on Saturday, Jonty is on on Sunday, and we going to Richard's seminar, too hard to resist when it is right at Erskine Park . Still sorting out Mary's date on the Friday when you are there Tassie

Bindibu, showers came in just as we were to do the HIC and its got worse and worse, its like the middle of winter here only 13 yesterday. We will be going early am soon to avoid the heat ours and us from NZ only last year so not acclimatised yet.

www.thepetographer.com.au, herding, Steve and Renee's 09 Sept.

I too would like to know why this woman woudn't be paid to touch Nutro :D. it isnt available through pet feed shops and not in country NSW either, so where does she get her info from :D . As a matter of interest Nutro's Lamb and Rice is the America's #1 Selling Lamb Meal and Rice Dog Food and Nutro's Large Breed Adult America's #1 Large Breed Pet Store Dog Food. I have been feeding now for over seven years and still stand by it as a great product. :D

This was recently posted in general discussion, by skwo2, last post 06 Sept. I found somewhere on the website, there is a research which has been done and say how intelligence a breed is. Anyone got any objection as to the result? Rank Breed 1 Border Collie 2 Poodle 3 German Shepherd 4 Golden Retriever 5 Doberman Pinscher 6 Shetland Sheepdog 7 Labrador Retriever 8 Papillon 9 Rottweiler 10 Australian Cattle Dog 11 Pembroke Welsh Corgi 12 Miniature Schnauzer 13 English Springer Spaniel 14 Belgian Tervuren 15 Schipperke Belgian Sheepdog 16 Collie Keeshond 17 German Shorthaired Pointer 18 Flat-Coated Retriever English Cocker Spaniel Standard Schnauzer 19 Brittany 20 Cocker Spaniel 21 Weimaraner 22 Belgian Malinois Bernese Mountain Dog 23 Pomeranian 24 Irish Water Spaniel 25 Vizsla 26 Cardigan Welsh Corgi 27 Chesapeake Bay Retriever Puli Yorkshire Terrier 28 Giant Schnauzer 29 Airedale Terrier Bouvier Des Flandres 30 Border Terrier Briard 31 Welsh Springer Spaniel 32 Manchester Terrier 33 Samoyed 34 Field Spaniel Newfoundland Australian Terrier American Staffordshire Terrier Gordon Setter Bearded Collie 35 Cairn Terrier Kerry Blue Terrier Irish Setter 36 Norwegian Elkhound 37 Affenpincher Silky Terrier Miniature Pinscher English Setter Pharaoh Hound Clumber Spaniel 38 Norwich Terrier 39 Dalmatian 40 Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier Bedlington Terrier Smooth Fox Terrier 41 Curly-Coated Retriever Irish Wolfhound 42 Kuvasz Australian Shepherd 43 Saluki Finnish Spitz Pointer 44 Cavalier King Charles Spaniel German Wirehaired Pointer Black & Tan Coonhound American Water Spaniel 45 Siberian Husky Bichon Frise English Toy Spaniel 46 Tibetan Spaniel English Foxhound Otterhound American Foxhound Greyhound Wirehaired Pointing Griffon 47 West Highland White Terrier Scottish Deerhound 48 Boxer Great Dane 49 Dachshund Stafforshire Bull Terrier 50 Alaskan Malamute

The Nutro Bins are 80th anniversary ones, still waiting on mine :D Whilst supercoat may make a sensitive range I cant find either a guaranteed analysis or ingredients list on their downloadable brochure, :rolleyes: only a typical analysis. I would want to see both the former if I were to consider changing foods.

:rolleyes: Tassie lucky you, you will have to get us started/going again with dancing. MrsD, a phone call may be needed?.

there may be certain movements which would be detrimental to a puppy, Panda was I think 9 months when we started, got to give those bones time to grow. One piece of music we used was Herb Alpert's "Walk in the Black Forest" rather appropriate for a b/w sheltie You will need to look out some nice "jaunty jonty" music ;)

LOL, could be but dont think Jonty old enough for Dancing yet.

Following on from Magicalthing's post on Dancing with Dogs both Richard Curtis and Mary Ray from the U.K. are here giving seminars shortly. Richard Curtis 30 Sep/01 Oct. Melbourne and 07/08 October Sydney Mary Ray 15-22 October, Coolangatta, Gold Coast. Detils on either their websites or on www.k9events.com

Lillysmum All I am going to say is I cant agree with your statements on the feeding of processed foods.

the Dogs. BTW emails working just fine

Mooper, they all passed their H.I.C., see also under W.D.C.Q. Herding Trials post. LOL, three went through yesterday in under 2 mins, but Jemma took over 6 before she switched on. Had some really good comments about Panda :D , can you tell we're chuffed?. Think with the rain around today the judge was keen to get it over and done with 3 came in under 1 minute and Jemma just over the minute. Now the harder work starts

We had all four pass their HIC under two different judges so they can move on to the next step AND Razzle as well. Fidelis and Craig Juke, nice to meet you both. :D MrsD we met up with your friend as well ;)

MrsD, you mean you will retire after the Nationals. :D Perhaps we should start a Dance group, ;) that's canines btw NOT homo sapiens.

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MrsD am sure I mentioned it to you, I will lend you the video of Panda. Mary Ray has done a demonstration, (I think using her sheltie) in the Best in Show Ring at Crufts