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There has been a thread on this in general discussion recently. In so far as Nutro are concerned their wet/canned range IS NOT available in Australia. We are from NZ and used to purchase their canned product there, esp their puppy food, we have NOT AT ANY TIME been able to find a supplier here and have been informed by the importer that they are not going to introduce their canned product here in the foreseable (?spelling) future The importer is based in NZ and they in turn supply a warehouse in Brisbane.

How old is your puppy?. Ours is 21 weeks and she has for the last 6 weeks or so been losing her puppy fluff, we brush her daily to help with the puppy coat drop. There is no fixed time frame in which they take to lose that puppy coat. The bath and blow dry which have given your puppy will certainly help.

YOO HOO, Troy can ths be pinned?. PRETTY PLEASE

Working setters there are several people on these forums who have switched to Nutro and had excellent results, we have possibly been feeding Nutro longer than most people here in Aus, as it was more readily available in NZ where we are from. Any information about Nutro, e.g. the press releases, guaranteed analysis, retail outlets etc etc are readily available on their website, its a matter of looking.

Nutro and Eukanuba are NOT owned by the same company. You may have read about the recall on dog food in the US, here is the link to the press release by Nutro regarding the recall: This may or may not be of interest to those who either feed or are considering feeding Nutro. Their stand on this is quite clear and DOES NOT affect the dry products available internationally. NONE of the Nutro canned products are available in Australia. http://www.nutroproducts.com/pressreleases.asp We have been feeding Nutro for well over 6 years and are very happy with the results. There are some testimonials about Nutro here: http://www.naturalpetfoodsaustralia.com/

We too feed Nutro and sardines once a week. Have recently started them on Ziwipeak, one variety has venison and fish and the other venison and green-lipped mussel, and dare we say that their coats are even better.

Sorry to hear of your loss, Sage, hugs to all concerned.

YOOO HOOO TROY any chance of this being pinned?

On behalf of my friend Margaret who lost her girl this morning aged 13 years, run free of pain Marika, you will find many a sheltie friend at the

Have just received this: Troy, it may be useful for this to be a pinned topic. TEN KEYS TO UNDERSTANDING YOUR PUPPY 1. Each Puppy Is Different Even within a single litter of pups, there can be extreme differences, from outgoing and friendly to withdrawn and aloof. Are you and your siblings or cousins exactly alike? Neither are pups. This puppy of yours will be different from any dog you've had or will have. He has his own personality-with features that amuse and parts that annoy, a total package. And as the old saying goes, the trick to being happy is not to get what you want but to want what you get. Your job, as his leader, is to build on his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses. 2. Your Puppy Is Not a Blank Slate Your puppy arrives in your arms a package of instincts and hardwired behaviors. In some, those instincts/behaviors border on compulsions. Border Collies can stare obsessively at movement, Labradors may lose their minds over tennis balls, some Terriers bark almost nonstop. Your pup doesn't even, can't even, know there are other options. Saying "No" to a dog in the middle of an instinct-triggered behavior often doesn't help or if it does, it won't for long. "No" simply doesn't compute. "No" tells your puppy you are upset-nothing else. He needs alternatives, which you must supply. You must teach your Border Collie that he can look away, your Lab that he can leave the ball on the floor, your Terrier that he can sit quietly ... as these ideas will never, ever occur to them. 3. Your Puppy Needs More than "Love" Actually, love may be all your puppy needs, if love means meeting your puppy's emotional, mental, and physical needs, even when you don't especially feel like it. But if by "love" you mean meeting your emotional needs first and foremost, even when that conflicts with the puppy's needs, then that is not enough. What we say to clients is "Do you love your puppy or do you love loving your puppy?" If you love your puppy, doing what he needs is second nature. If you love loving your puppy, you will do what you want to do while complaining about your puppy. For example: Puppy urinates in kitchen overnight. Easy solution: Your puppy sleeps crated in your bedroom. If you love your puppy, you do that because you know it will help the puppy learn. If you love loving the puppy, you'll refuse to take that action because "you don't like crating her," and then you'll create a problem. 4. Minor Moments Matter Every interaction you have with your puppy teaches her something. There is no "small" interaction. If your puppy steps in front of you and you move out of her way to avoid bumping into her, she learns that she can make you move. If, instead, you kept your feet low, your knees bent, and shuffled on through her, she learns that you can make her move. You may think, Who cares? Your puppy does and therefore you must. In social mammals, leaders walk and followers get out of the way. This is true in people, horses, and dogs. Those many minor moments teach your puppy who you are. If you teach her to push you around, walk all over you, and ignore you, it can create problems later. People often say that problems "came out of the blue!" but they are often the result of months of dismissing or missing the meaning of those minor moments. 5. To See It Is to Mouth It Puppies explore their world with their mouths which, until about four months of age, contain tiny, pointy, needle-sharp teeth. Pups mouth things that move, like your cat or your pant leg. They gnaw on things with the same predictability with which young human children attempt to stick things up their nose. It's just going to happen at some point. This is not a "bad" puppy; this is a normal puppy. Plan for normal events to happen, so you can supervise, teach, and redirect to a better option. Avoid thinking that normal things like this won't happen and then being annoyed or surprised when they do. 6. Puppies Do Not Understand Risk First off, a three-month-old puppy has been on our planet for only ninety days or so. Nature has given him speedy mobility but little time for experience. You must protect your puppy as he will swallow, chew, leap off, and careen into slippery, sharp, and dangerous things. Sarah remembers all too well watching fivemonth- old Bracken, her German Shepherd Dog, race up the back steps and vault off the three-foot-high railing, arcing upward toward a bird on the back fence. As she landed she dropped some six feet or so to the ground without incident, but was that anticipated? No. You can never anticipate everything. So, when considering risk, ask yourself not what you think might happen, but what could happen. 7. Puppies Love Pleasing You Anyone who has ever seen a puppy sporting a delighted, openmouthed grin when his person praises him knows that dogs of all ages enjoy it when we enjoy them. They want that connection- it is one of those things that makes dogs dogs. They get a kick out of us! It is in vogue in some circles to talk about how dogs have no desire to please. We feel sorry that anyone in the dog community could live with dogs and not experience that warm, mutual connection. In some circles, touch and praise are billed as "distractions to learning." As if a relationship were a "distraction." We have dogs because of the mutual relationship we can share with them. What a sad, cold world it must be to treat a dog as if he is incapable of deep connection and to then be treated in the same way by the dog. My Smart Puppy people do not have to live in that distant world. You will build a relationship with your puppy, seeing his or her joy in our joy. In order to see this, you must learn how to praise your puppy warmly and sincerely in a way your puppy enjoys. Show your puppy through touch and voice just how fond of him you are and you will see him respond in kind. 8. Puppies Need Lots of Sleep Humans take around fifteen years to grow from infancy to sexual maturity. Your puppy does it in under one. She may start life at one pound and bite into her first birthday cake at seventy-five pounds. That is an extraordinary rate of growth. A large-breed puppy may, at the peak of growth, put on nearly a pound a day. To accomplish this feat, your puppy needs rest and a lot of it. Expect your puppy to log nearly eighteen to twenty hours a day for a few peak-growth months. Just like children, overtired puppies can become cranky, pushy, whiny, or otherwise frustrating. It is your job to recognize those signs and tuck the pup into his crate for a nap. This is especially important in households with children, where a puppy can be kept awake and active for too long. 9. Puppyhood Is Messy In every sense. Not only will you be dealing with physical byproducts- urine, feces, vomit, hair, dirt, and in some breeds drool-but learning is messy. Think how difficult it is to communicate clearly between people. Now try between species; you are trying to communicate with a species that has no clue about what you're trying to teach. Sometimes your puppy will be confused, sometimes you will be, sometimes you both will be-that is normal. The way through it is productive practice. Avoidance, frustration, or "putting it off" never trained a single puppy. You can do this! Nothing has to be perfect-as long as you are consistent and persistent, your puppy will learn to understand you. 10. Puppyhood Is Brief Hallelujah and darn-all at once. You would not be human if you didn't think from time to time, When will this end? We can tell you when it will end: very quickly. Use these months. You cannot ever get them back. Train, play, socialize, explore-prepare your puppy for a long, happy life as an adult dog. Along the way, take pictures, find ways to have at least a little fun with your puppy every day, and have patience with normal mental and physical canine developmental stages. They are as precious as they can be annoying.

Our first sheltie had terrible skin problems and we too had to take him to a skin specialist. In those days alternative protein sources were hard to come by. Have a look at the skin and coat case histories here: http://www.nutroproducts.com/naturalchoicedog.asp and as an alternative protein source here: http://www.naturalpetfoodsaustralia.com/Zi...peak-range.html

HH, Perhaps we need to set ourselves up at your place for a grooming session :D We have all the necessary equipment including hydrobath and high velocity dryer, all we need then are the dogs

A furminator is not all it is cut out to be We have used them on long coated dogs and personally think the undercoat rake is better. A bath and a blow dry is a start but no groomer would expect to get all the hair out in one go.

Carousel correct me if I am wrong but you have 2 dogs?, and their weight?. If not feeding entirely dry food then naturally a 15 kg bag will last a lot longer. Price will depend on which product and where you purchase from.

If you were to feed Nutro (this is an example only) Lamb and Rice to an 8kg dog you would feed 120 grammes per day.

If feeding a 25 kg dog Nutro Lamb and Rice, it is 290 grammes per day. This is based on feeding dry only.

Just to add to lillysmum's good post, with a super premium food it may cost more but you feed a lot less. Have a friend with a 23kg dog and a 15kg bag of Nutro lasts her 4 months.

If you do a search in these forums on supercoat you will find many a thread about sloppy poos We wouldnt feed Science Diet as its first ingredients are usually grains such as corn. Dont know of any vet clinic that doesn't recommend Science Diet or Eukanuba, BUT what do they know about the dry products?. As an example we know of someone who's dog had an intolerance to wheat and they were told not to feed Nutro, BUT Nutro does NOT contain wheat- GO FIGURE When we look for a dry food we look at the super premiums, sure they cost more, but you feed a lot less. When selecting a food we then look at the ingredients list and the guaranteed analysis. We avoid corn, maize, wheat, animal by-products, chemical preservatives, added colourants and added salt. Personally we feed Nutro Natural Choice, which we have been doing for some 6.5 years and all our litters have beed raised on Nutro.

Mak as mentioned earlier the accepted methods for tick "control": are a spot on treatment such as advantix, a tick collar, proban a monthly tablet, and permoxin, a weekly spray. There are other spot on treatmenst such as frontline, but they dont appear to be nearly as effective as advantix. Use the search feature, located on the top right hand of the DOL screen, pop tick control into the keyword section and serach the Health forums for many a previous thread. Here is a sample: http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?...p;#entry1551508

Incomparable: suggest you look at these two sites: http://medent.usyd.edu.au/photos/tick_photos.htm AND http://medent.usyd.edu.au/fact/fleas.htm. Paralysis tick can kill

We have a puppy here of 17 weeks, we use Sentinel Spectrum which covers all worms and fleas, including heartworm, BUT it is a monthly application. Your puppy should have been wormed by the breeder at 2,4,6 and 8 weeks. If NOT treating for heartworm then the next dosage is 12 weeks and then every three months. You can purchase wormer products online from www.pricelesspets.com.au. If you are in a paralysis tick area then a spot on such as advantix is applied fortnightly, tick collars last for two months, or you can use proban, a tablet, every second day, or permoxin sprayed weekly.

Aloveen shampoo and conditioner, lustreaid as a cologne, and if really smelly then Grimenator from Groomers Edge who have a banner ad on here.

Have just done a quick google search and it appears as a human treatment?. Hope you can get the problem resolved. :D

HEY, Midol SOOOO the permoxin has worked

Nacster, no doubt you got your Nuto from 4 Paws?. Give them a call and explain the situation, see what the response is, they will have other puppy buyers and may be able to on sell at a reduced price as you have opened the bag. Then purchase a couple of 2kg bags at a time of the Puppy mini which is Chicken and Rice, see how he goes and then up to the 7.5kg bag.