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First saw a hydrotherapy pool in use in NZ and thought what a brilliant idea. Go for it, but if you want to have other dogs use it then there will be some questions concerning skin problems in other dogs. These may answer some questions. http://www.glemaraypetspa.com.au/ http://www.caninehydrotherapy.com.au/

Suggest you look at Ziwipeak canned food, and mix his Nutro biccies in that. Ziwipeak dont make a puppy food but our sheltie pup of 6 1/2 months is on the above diet, she too could do with a little more weight

Ziwipeak also comes in cans in a variety of flavours.

Proplan may not use by-products but when choosing a dog food you need to look at the ingredients in their entirety. Proplan for instance uses: Maize, Animal fat and Wheat. Ziwipeak is expensive but then you are feeding a lot less than even the super premium foods such as Nutro, it is a highly concentrated food and wouldnt be on the market anywhere at $112 for 5kg if it was not considered a saleable product. Also you are looking as expensive ingredients, such as venison.

We feed twice daily.

Shmoo, the OP has stated that she lives on the Sunshine Coast, near Caloundra ;) Busterlove apart from what Witheverythingiam has posted for you, i.e. Box Hill TAFE . the only other course here is held at Nambour TAFE and is for people wanting to groom their own dogs. If your aunty did it for a long time, can she not give you some background skills?.

Congratulations on Tia's HIC. Good luck with the next levels. :p

Gomez, try Hesa its easier. Saggitarian, another

Great posting Miranda

Larry, Nutro do NOT use corn in their products, they do however use corn-gluten meal in some of their products and the relevant information from their website as to why they use corn-gluten meal has been posted to this topic.

Royal Canin then will be off some lists as it has has had recalls of not only their wet/canned/pouches BUT also their dry foods

Where's My Rock http://www.4pawsandmore.com.au/ daccies, Ziwipeak is air dried like "jerky", it does not come as a kibble, but in strips about 1/4".

Ziwipeak make both dog and cat foods. Our fussy Birman goes loopy over the canned, but he's not too fussed on the dry

panda, our dogs stools are only SLIGHTLY softer on the Ziwipeak, but then we are only using it as an addition to their regular diet which is Nutro. We add either a little canned or daily cuisine to their food. The reason for only using as a supplement is that we have 5 to feed and Ziwipeak is unfortunately far too expensive to be feeding as a standard diet to that many. PLUS the cat!!

Where's My Rock, what state are you in?

Gomez, Hesa Panda Bear is the registered name of one of my dogs, he's a black and white sheltie. Hey, Norskgra, not in the foods you feed but thought it needed clarification. daccies, please dont confuse Nutro with Ziwipeak they are NOT the same product, and do not have the same website: Nutro's: http://www.nutroproducts.com/ Ziwipeak's http://www.ziwipeak.com/

Norskgra, sorry some of the Nutro products do contain corn gluten meal. Please not that there is a difference between whole grain corn which many other companies use and gluten meal. This is the information from Nutro's website which clarifies why they use this in their foods. (1) Nutro uses corn gluten meal in some of its pet foods because it is a source of sulfur amino acids, which are important for skin and coat health. Corn gluten meal also helps as a natural urine acidifier that is important for both cats and dogs. (2) All of the corn gluten meal that Nutro uses in its products is produced in the United States. Goemz the recall of foods was because the ingredients came from China. Nutro dried products ONLY use US ingredients. Gomez, perhaps then you need to locate food sourced from elsewhere, have you throught about Ziwipeak which is made in NZ?.

Ziwipeak is mostly based on venison and if it is not a smell that humans are used to then it can be a little strong-venison is game and most game meats are stronger. Regardless of whether or not you like the smell it is the reaction of your dogs to the food that is important as well as the fact that it contains no chemical preservatives and no grains. Ziwipeak comes as treats; daily cuisine which resembles the treats in texture and canned.

Gomez, not sure where you get your information from concerning Nutro, please note that it does NOT contain corn as Saggitarian has already mentioned. Nutro dry products have NOT been affected by the recall in the US. All information concerning Nutro's products and the recalls can be found on their websitehttp://www.nutroproducts.com/mfrecall.shtml. Chicken and Lamb meal is human grade meat which has had the mositure content removed.

Hey, Trace just posting to your other threads. Know how much it hurts, take care all of you, you are in our thoughts

Trace ;) simply dont know what to say, but HUGE :p from us all at Safaree Shelties. Pepsi, you will be in many hearts for many a year to come, hey boyo take care, run free and enjoy your time with all your sheltie pals until we join you Hey Trace, have to go, too many tears, thinking of you and the family, here's a poem I have posted before. Welcome. I am Laddie Braveheart, Second Year Resident of the Rainbow Bridge. This is your introduction to the Rainbow Bridge. I have been a resident here for a little over a year and am now a member of the Welcome and Orientation Committee, Shetland Sheepdg and Scottish Breed Division. I have the extreme honor of escorting you to the Scottish Ancrestral Section of the Rainbow Bridge where those of our kind wait. You have already received your Silver Harness, and it looks so good on you. Now, let us begin our journey. As you see there are fields of sheep and cows for the herding dogs, and over there are the lakes, marshes and fields for the hounds and sporting dogs to play. And here are Beau and Sam, the Goldens I lived with -- we visit often, after all we have loved and are waiting for the same Humons. {See ya later, me mates) Oh, look! The agility games are going on. This is one of the newer areas at the Bridge and they have just finished the Rally-O field--this time with the directions for each station written in Dog. All the areas at The Bridge are for all the animals here and we have a lot of fun together. I have even seen some of the cats at the swimming ponds. See that area over there? Where the sun shines bright and warm all the time, and there is a gentle mist for a few hours each day? That is where all the reptiles and amphibians are. They all have nice tree limbs and warm rocks to lounge on. But let's continue onwards. Oh, check out those hedges and trees - that is where the bunnies and the mice, rats, gerbils and ferrets are. I like to come down and watch them play they just have so much fun -the flurry of activity and squeaking for joy when one of their Humes is coming is a treasure. Now watch your step, this is the Large Animal area. Occasionally all the horses, mules, donkeys, even the cows and goats get a little carried away with the Herd Running Game and can give a smaller critter like us quite a surprise as they break the hill at full gallop. Even the pigs and chickens take part. Here, the hills get a little steeper and woods a little thicker. It is so much fun to run full speed, up and down the hills dodging the trees. Here you will see the 'exotic' animals. The tigers and lions and bears and wolves, all the animals thought of as wild but have hearts shared with humans. They, too will cross the Rainbow Bridge with their special person. But our journey carries us still further. You feel the air getting crisper? And look, your coat is fuller and your Silver Harness shines brighter. We are getting close. Now, step carefully we are crossing the Crystal Bridge. Here, the weather is always clear, the snow just the right depth and the tracks are, perfect. Since we have arrived during the afternoon, I can show you some of the activities we have. The Scottish Breeds have many interests and enjoy many different games. I know you are used to having your Humon hook your harness to the car or the lead but your Silver Harness has magic and will hitch to what ever you want. Over here are the sheep right next to the croft which has to be guarded and over there is on the far side of the isle, are the fields of joy, where you can run and play with your friends and share a ball or just laze away the sunny afternoon. And yes, there are a lot of other breeds up here all doing what they do best, even though the Humes arnt there to see you, we all gather around to watch you and enjoy your times as though they were ours. The Sammies are over there herding reindeer, and there are open streams for the Inuits and Greenlands to fish for salmon. The Shelties came up with a great idea that has now become a tradition with all the breeds. Each year during the National Breed Specialty there is a Rainbow Bridge Specialty Show. All the dogs who had show careers and those who just wanted to be a show dog go into the show ring and go around one more time. The Shelties have gotten permission to have visitors from Heaven during that time. Humes who have no dog with them are allowed to come visit and watch the show. Judges and Stewards come and take part. And the old breeders come to see how the breeds are developing and visit with their great-great grandpuppies. All the dogs participating the first time get their Silver Rosette. You see, every dog here is perfect. If you look around you see not only are there warm straw beds to rest on, but houses with soft sofas and fireplaces to just lounge on and swap stories. Many of the residents wait here for the night. That is the time all of the Scottish Breed dogs assemble. Each night a shelties team is formed and they run and play and herd the sheep and the cattle. They can be seen from earth as the Southern Lights and now we are getting members from the Northern, Eastern and Western Hemispheres, and they also run and play sometimes as far as the North Pole of earth, to give them lights too. Each March is a special run. That is when the Iditarod is run on earth and all the dogs who have raced and played and worked together, team up for a special display. Many of them are cheering on their Humes who are racing. Many of them have family members in the fields. It seems the Collies and the Borders work their hardest to make the most spectacular light display. Well, I think you are pretty well acquainted with the Rainbow Bridge both North and South, East and West. There are just a couple of other things you should know. You are able to see your Humes when you miss them most. They may have gotten a new puppy. That is good. It means they have started to heal from the loss they felt when you left. But remember, a part of your heart remained with them to replace the part of their heart they gave to you. Now, occasionally, your Human may be particularly sad and missing you. You are able to send your love to them any time. They will feel your love. It may be as a shadow in the corner of their sight, or the soft sound of your voice, or a gentle breeze caressing their cheek. And it will bring them comfort. And there is one special night, Christmas Eve. All the animals waiting for a special person gather together and send their gift of love to that person. That night we are able to see into that person's home and if the person looks, there is a star shining particularly bright. Just for them from us. Oh, I see the sun is setting and you are looking at all the dogs gathering together. Go, and run, play, run and jump, . It is your night. Godspeed.

Hey Roxy Seems like there are communication problems, six times in 2 weeks, MMMM only received two enquiries

Roxy all has been attended to. Ashka here is the latest press release http://www.nutroproducts.com/press5-1-07mars.asp Mars are treating Nutro as a separate profit centre/investment, and will leave them to get about their business as before.

There is a banner advert here on DOL Click on it and send an enquiry from the website

Ziwipeak so far dont have samples of theit treat/dry range, the smallest packet is 85g