RottnBullies

I've maintained from year dot that some ABPT fanciers are the breeds worst enemies. They simply cannot seem to fathom that they are part of the breed's "reputation problems". Why Everything those dogs did was sport, they are not a lap dog, they are a working dog, they were doing no harm to anyone except for enjoying some of their activities. Well respected supporters and advocates of the APBT partake In most of those sports I see no harm In that, just because It's something you wouldn't do with most other breeds doesn't make It wrong and shouldn't be seen as damaging their reputation, It's what makes them what they are a very agile athletic dog

I think you can further than the last 10 yrs Sticky ;)

That has got to be the worst and appalling piece of hysteria writing I've seen In a long time, what hope Is there when this Is what people are going to be following and believing, just look at the stock photo for starters

Certain humans have no place In society either, shall we exterminate them too! treating this with the contempt it deserves Whatever turkish! No skin off my back, throwing Insults will get you far but If It makes you feel any better, I pretty much dislike you too!

Certain humans have no place In society either, shall we exterminate them too!

FFS Mathew stop your harping and non sense dribble! The dog was a crossbreed, you can not compare and keep blaming the APBT. I've said It before dogs are not born killers they are made by humans, you're targeting the wrong end. This Is not a breed related problem, but a human one How many times does it have to be said they have never been bred for human aggression! NEVER Cross two breeds of unknown origin/history and you get what??? Nothing but a lucky dip

A standard for a cross breed, I'm still waiting to see what bollocks they'll be coming up for that one!

It leaves us in the same place we have always been.The politicians and the media wont let that get in the way.The monster must be burned at the stake becuase it makes great sensationalistic tv and vote grabbing for pollies all the while doing nothing but taking the heat off of other issues.The pitbull takes the blame again and thats all the headlines will say PITBULL PITBULL PITBULL.See if you say it enough times you will believe it too. How many of those damaging headlines are going to be retracted?? None that's the sad part as the damage Is done irrespective of what breed It was, It Is only one that Is going to be hung and sacrificed once again not to mention any look a likes that fall In their paths

That's already happening has been for quite some time

Discussing things here does not take away what this thread Is all about, surely you can see this

I know GT John an Co did an amazing job, only to get criticized by many, but the fact Is In the results now for all to see

As far as I'm aware and someone correct me If I'm wrong but there Is no recorded fatality In Australia by an APBT, how Is culling/exterminating the breed going to prevent this from happening again I'm shuddering every time I think of that hotline and what It Is going to do Honestly what do they think It's going to achieve except for killing loved family pets. I hate to say It but where Qld has left of Vic Is picking up, I would hate to be living there ETA: Clarification

This Is what I am fearing, how many Innocent dogs are going to get caught up In this Mathew B you have yet to answer the question

Thanks Keira, that's the one

Absolutely lilli I couldn't agree more.. It's driven the responsible breeders underground leaving an open void for the BYB's to openly cause havoc and damage to the breed. Just because they aren't an ANKC recognized breed does not mean It couldn't work with responsible breeding practices In place

I think you'll find the Pit folks have been quite reasonably In this debate, however much can be said for the other party Including throwing Insults. Mathew B could you please answer the previous question asked

Unfortunately I think the damage has been done now, people are not going to care about It being a cross breed But maybe Mathew B would kindly like to answer this one

I feel sick for what has happened and I feel sick thinking of what Is going to happen next My heart goes out to the little girls family.... may she R.I.P Thank you to PF for being the voice of reason as always, as each hate like comment I read, Is like a dagger in my heart A dog Is not born a killer, It Is made one by humans

Ok thanks for that Sheila I would think that previous proof of this person's dogs state they're In would be enough to warrant a NO! I guess It's really a red tape area then that certainly needs to be looked into and sorted out for the dogs sake. And this Is where Orgs such as the RSPCA with so much power need to be doing their jobs which they clearly aren't and not nit picking on trivial stuff Power unto those that don't deserve to have It! That's really helping our companion animals Isn't It!

LINK Greg Napora, whose pregnant wife was mauled and killed by one of their pet pit bulls Thursday, was reunited with the other family pit bull late Monday afternoon. Officials said yesterday the six-year-old female pit, Tazi, was not involved in the fatal mauling of 32-year-old Darla Napora by an unneutered two-year-old male named Gunner. The victim died of blood loss and shock from dog bites, preliminary autopsy results show. Scott Delucchi, spokesman for the Peninsula Humane Society and SPCA, said that his organization wanted to be reasonably sure that Tazi wasn't dangerous before returning her to her owner. "We needed to know that the second dog was not involved in the attack before we decided to return it to its owner," Delucchi said. "We also wanted to hear that the owner wanted the dog back." The Humane Society learned early on, soon after his wife's death, that Greg Napora wanted Tazi back. After medical examiners and odontologists - bite experts - used teeth impressions taken from both dogs to show in preliminary autopsy results that only the male pit bull was involved in the attack, and after Tazi had been observed for signs of aggression, the Humane Society had to give the dog back to her owner, Delucchi said. "We had to rely on these outside experts," he said, "and the husband who came home, he saw his one dog over his wife, said the other dog (Tazi) was not even in the same room but was cowering in the corner in a different room. Whether she wasn't in there from the beginning of the attack, that's inconclusive." That information, along with the Humane Society's own observations and investigation, which included checking for signs that the dogs had been abused, that they had been taken on regular vet trips, that they were registered in San Mateo County, and checking with neighbors for any indication that the dogs were neglected, led to Tazi's release. Delucchi said that some of Napora's neighbors in Pacifica's Vallemar District called the Humane Society after the dog's release to say they were uncomfortable with the dog's release, and were concerned the dog wasn't safe. "But I also think of someone who loses his wife, unborn child and other dog in one day," Delucchi said. "So maybe that second dog is all he's got. So, we're trying to think out it that way. I'm asking people to be compassionate." Nevertheless, he understands neighbors' concerns, Delucchi said. "You can never predict future behavior (of dogs)," he said. "We cannot say for sure we know what a dog will do. We can only judge the grounds for holding a dog; we had no legal authority." Thursday's incident has reignited the debate over whether pit bulls ought to be banned and whether the breed is inherently dangerous, a debate seen now on Pacifica Patch's comment boards and elsewhere. When asked to weigh in, Delucchi said his organization sees the problem primarily lying with the owner. "We see so many wonderful pit bulls," he said. "People here at work have them, we adopt them out, we see them become search and rescue dogs, pet assistance therapy animals that enter schools and libraries, so many wonderful ones. We also see them end up with the wrong people and do bad things. If it wasn't pit bulls, people would do something awful to another breed, it's a people problem." Still, an ill-treated pit bull is very dangerous indeed, he said. "Nobody can deny that pit bulls are physiologically built differently," he said. "The jaws are aligned differently, they do more damage, but we also know that all dogs bite." One thing pit bull owners can do to make sure their dog is safer is to get it neutered," Delucchi said. "Neutering makes it safer, it does, it's one of those things that nobody can really deny," he said. "A dog that is not neutered produces testosterone." More testosterone, he said, usually equals more aggression. Also, Delucchi advises pet owners to observe their animals for changes in behavior. If the changes seem negative or even odd, correct them immediately, or see a vet. If your dog used to greet visitors at the door, for instance, but now puts his tail between his legs and hides from visitors, it could be a bad sign. Problems like these don't just work themselves out, Delucchi said. @ bit In bold!....I'm left wondering how their jaws are aligned any different to other dogs!

I couldn't agree more, but they are still looking for this dogs owner, It was someone else who brought Him to the shelter

I hate to ask, but what are these 'other' situations you speak of? Or do you just mean dogs being adopted Into private homes then not being cared for etc? RIP Sergeant Todd Langley and RIP Lucky

I wished I could I have 3 that bolt at the sight of It, and one, well the nozzle attachment would be dead for starters and that's all before I even turn It on

Wow!, I never knew they did that! Lol need to venture out a bit more apart from dog stuff! Thanks for that link too It does sound all very exciting on what can be possible and achieved with It all

LINK A pit bull that suffered severe burns when it was left outside on a rooftop in the scorching heat for 10 hours last month has been given a second chance at a normal life due to a first-of-its-kind stem-cell treatment. A Spring Township veterinarian donated his time to perform the experimental treatment using foreign-source cells to regrow the pads on the dog's paws, which were burned off on the hot roof, according to an official from the Animal Rescue League of Berks County. Chris Shaughness, the ARL spokesman, said the young pit bull, dubbed Bernie by the shelter's staff, was brought to the shelter July 19 after a Reading police officer found the dog stranded on the roof of a building in the 700 block of North Front Street. When the dog was brought to the shelter, an examination found he also had burn marks on his spine and his nipples. Officials believe the dog received those burns by lying down on the hot roof, trying to take weight off his painful paws. "I don't think I've seen anything that bad in 25 years," said Dr. Boyd Wagner, veterinarian and owner of the Wyomissing Animal Hospital. "They were severe, third-degree burns." Wagner said the shelter had brought Bernie to the animal hospital for treatment of his burned-off pads. Wagner came up with an idea for helping Bernie: regrowing his pads with stem cells. The veterinarian had been working with Celavet Inc., a California-based biotechnology firm conducting stem-cell research in horses, cats and dogs. Animal stem-cell research has been around for a while, but Bernie's treatment was the first case of using another animal's stem cells that have been programmed to grow into specialized types of cells, Wagner said. "The stem cells increase the re-epithelialization at a faster pace and a more uniform pace," he said, describing the natural process of growing new skin during wound healing. In short, the pit bull would be injected with stem cells to re-grow his pads at a quicker rate. The procedure, performed Aug. 4, was the first of its kind for a canine and required special permission from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Wagner said. "This is a phenomenal story, to attempt to grow his paws," Shaughness said. Law enforcement officials are still looking for the pit bull's owner. Crime Alert Berks County is offering a reward for information leading to the owner's arrest, Shaughness said Bernie has been staying at the ARL's boarding kennel while recovering from surgery. "We're trying to find a foster home for him," she said. "We don't know the outcome of the treatment yet so we don't want to adopt him out until he's truly recovered." But while Bernie rests and recovers from the burn surgery, he will be taken back to the animal hospital periodically for progress checkups, Wagner said. The veterinarian said it's unknown how long it will take to know if the experimental procedure was successful. "But he seems to be happy," Wagner said. "He's a tough little guy." Hopefully It's a success