RottnBullies

The pups are not pure, and I think the RSPCA knows this. It was meant to be a story on how these pups were dumped at a tip, but the media has ran with It In a total different direction....surprise surprise Have read elsewhere from someone who has actually gone In and viewed pups and that the RSPCA Is not Impressed with the article

He just keeps digging himself In a hole, and with any luck eventually It'll be too big for him to get out Good riddance couldn't come any sooner

Honestly how old Is this guy! Re Igniting old stories! Way to go media

Where did you get this Info from?

LINK THE RSPCA in Tasmania is trying to find homes for a litter of purebred pitbull pups while a national debate rages about whether the controversial dog breed should be banned. Just 10 days ago a four-year-old girl was killed in an attack in Victoria when a neighbour's pitbull entered her family home. The State Opposition has labelled the RSPCA's actions irresponsible and out of step with the community's viewpoint of the breed. But RSPCA chief executive officer Ben Sturges said the animal welfare group had a national policy to rehome pitbulls and pitbull crosses that passed a behavioural test. "There's a lot of stigma around the dogs but our position is that we don't think that pitbulls are necessarily the problem," he said. The RSPCA believes it is the way the dog is raised and cared for by some people that leads to problems. Mr Sturges said they were looking for "loving homes" for the pitbull pups. RSPCA senior canine behaviour trainer Kim Robertson said potential owners would undergo a stringent screening process. "Obviously we're aware that this may generate interest from inappropriate owners," she said. Ms Robertson said all dogs rehomed by the organisation, including the pitbull pups, were individually assessed regardless of their breed. They were then matched to an owner that could cater for the specific needs of each dog. "Any dog that doesn't meet our temperate assessment will be put to sleep," she said. She said the RSPCA would provide potential owners with information about how to reduce the "negative tendencies" of any dog. "Pitbulls do have a tendency to show dog-directed aggression, although this does vary from dog to dog," Ms Robertson said. Opposition Local Government spokesman Rene Hidding said it was "disturbing that this litter of puppies exists". "Clearly there is somebody out there with pitbulls capable of breeding which is a serious offence and to be frank the RSPCA appears to be compounding that offence. "We'll be contacting the Minister for Local Government Bryan Green to understand how it is that a community association like the RSPCA can give away pitbulls in light of the legislation that was passed in 2009. "The changes in 2009, while they certainly didn't go far enough in our view, did impose significant restrictions on the sale of pitbull terriers and that includes the giving away or disposing of pitbull terriers. "It might be that the RSPCA has found a loophole but that's hardly the way that a respected organisation should operate." Acting Minister for Local Government David O'Byrne said he would "be very concerned" if someone had bred pitbull terriers in Tasmania. "As a restricted breed, this is expressly against the law. All pitbull terriers in Tasmania must be de-sexed," he said. "There are also very strict laws in Tasmania that govern the sale or transfer of ownership of restricted breed dogs. "Anyone wanting to receive a pitbull terrier must seek the permission of their local council and a pitbull terrier cannot be sold or given away without that permission being granted. "I am confident the RSPCA will meet its obligations in this regard. There are also extremely strict requirements for any person wanting to own a pitbull terrier. "They would need to keep the dog in a childproof enclosure, fit the property with appropriate warning signs and ensure the dog is both muzzled and kept on a short lead by a person over the age of 18 when in a public place. "These laws have been designed to minimise the risk that dangerous dogs pose to the community and ensure that owners of either restricted breed dogs or dogs declared as dangerous take the necessary precautions to protect other people from a dog attack." Since the mauling death in Victoria on August 18, Mr Hidding said he had received numerous calls and letters from people concerned about the breed in Tasmania. Comments on all stories must now contain your full name (first name and surname) and suburb A letter passed on to the Sunday Tasmanian detailed a recent attack on a seven-year-old boy who was leaving a school friend's house when the family dog chased him outside and savaged him. The boy suffered deep cuts to the top of his head and side of his neck. It was only the intervention of a neighbour that saved him more serious injuries. It is alleged that when the boy's mother complained to the local council and police she was told there was nothing they could do because the dog was on the owner's property. Other animal welfare groups, including the Dogs' Home of Tasmania, take a firm stand on pitbulls, immediately euthanasing any purebreds that come into their care. Dogs' Homes president Geoff Clarke said cross-breeds were rehomed as long as they passed a behaviour test. Glenorchy City Council city inspector Steve Rigby said there were 24 registered American pitbull terriers in the municipality and 17 American pitbull crosses but there were at least another 24 purebreds and 19 crosses in the area that were unregistered. "The dog has to be microchipped and when in a public place it has to wear a specific collar and has to be muzzled," Mr Rigby said. Of the more than 5200 dogs registered with the Hobart City Council, only two are pitbull crosses. However a council spokesman said restrictions imposed on pitbulls did not extend to cross-breeds. There are about 5500 dogs registered in Kingborough, including one pitbull cross and five American pitbull cross dogs.

I'm so sorry to hear this, It would of been just horrific for his owner, and certainly a horrible way to go for the poor dog, just doesn't seem fair and was so preventable R.I.P Axle

I truly hope not

There very well may be but how do you think that perception was created?? Well the media has played a big part, and they still do

I know how hard that out Is, but yes he does It so well, and very impressive to watch

Missed the post but that wouldn't be Capone by any chance? Some do well In and have been titled In Schutzhund as well, It Is not their forte though and they're much better suited to other working roles

Of course it shouldn't matter but the fact is that when we are talking about the public's perception of the breed then unfortunately, yes, image goes a LONG way in changing or further confirming the perceptions people already have about it. It's easy enough to say that people shouldn't think that way but the fact is that they do. Image Isn't everything, and If people aren't prepared to learn and look past that then they really aren't in a position to make such accusations or assumptions IMO What ever happened to don't judge a book by Its cover? Or Is just ok to look beyond for some things but not others! That's prejudice at Its best Do you really think that buy dressing them down Is going to change people's perception? Don't get me wrong I'm Into pink collars etc and so will my dog unbeknown to her :D but It's not for everyone, and It shouldn't be the focus of the problem, that's the least of their worries As for playing down their athleticism and the sports they enjoy which seems to be another taboo, well that's a joke, try telling that to Diane Jessup tell her that what she does with her dogs Is giving them a bad rep!

Do you understand what that expression means? Here I am, a bull breed owner, and I can step outside my little box and see what the general public sees because I do not wear rose coloured glasses. Get it? Look, it really makes no difference to me whatsoever and I couldn't give two hoots. You can't help those who won't help themselves by looking outside their own breed blindness. No, there probably hasn't - which is exactly why the breed fanciers need to only show pictures which cannot be misconstrued. If it were my breed they'd be head to toe in pink glitter and tutus out kissing old people in nursing homes. But gnashing jaws, spikes and hunting gear is just so much more appealing to the general public, apparently. Poor choice of words I picked...... yes but I'm sure you got what I meant regardless. What a dog wears or what a dog partakes In as their sport at the end of the day does not make It a dangerous dog. If that makes me breed blind, so be It. People shouldn't relate to that In the same manner as not all people with tats are automatically scum of the earth etc, there Is just more to It! Not everyone Is Into pink glitter and tutus or doggie dancing for that matter And I don't know where you got gnashing jaws from, but you may want to contact the media for that one they're pretty good at portraying that

This will be the last piece of Ignorant dribble I read from you, and just for the sake of It, here It Is again In case you selectively missed numerous times before It Is A People Problem...Not a Pit Bull Problem Dogs Are Not BORN Killers They Are Made By Humans Behind every attack there Is some form of human negligence

Unfortunately people like Mathew B wouldn't get the point If their life depended on It! Very sad for the woman Involved And this Is getting a little tiring now

There were plenty!.........Seriously you need to take off those rose coloured glasses and put on some real seeing eye glasses As for the chest leathers why dramatize them? they're harnesses for god's sake! Nothing more nothing less Don't do this...... don't wear that...... honestly has there ever been such a breed on this earth that can't even walk sideways without getting misconstrued!

It's not just the colouring! If the father Is a pure and with papers a better route would be to then get them both DNA for proof of parentage, there will be no second guessing with that route

I agree totally Alyosha, but I honestly think he does look RR X, more than an Am Staff X..... IT's not just a matter of flying under the radar here on this one

He Is very cute, no matter what his mix, as for registering him though I would go for RR ( Rhodesian Ridgeback ) X rather than a Staff X

Much better, thanks BB for pulling that one up, I agree

I just went back and watched it, and I thought: crap! imagine an untrained one of them on a chain in a bikie's backyard. You can Imagine It with any of our other med - large powerful breeds too, and you did say those magic words Untrained and Chained Enough to cause problems for many a dog don't you agree

I agree, It's a very scary and horrible thought of what Is about to unfold and to be honest I don't think many are actually giving any thought to this part at all Well as I said agree to disagree, I stand by my belief and It's not a biased one either thank you It's not everyone's cup of tea, but hey different strokes for different folks comes to mind Doing extreme dog sports Is not doing the breed harm at all

Well she's not owned by your typical macho, nor does she adorn studded/spiked collars, In fact we're In the process of getting a nice pink girly collar ;)

General public don't give a rats about that - if anything it puts another notch of fear in every mothers mind. All I see from that clip are dogs that can clear average fencing, love to grab things with their jaws as if their lives depended on it and are fit enough to outrun any human and knock a child to the ground. Sure, 2 of my own dogs could do all those things, but you need to think how non doggy people think if you want to save your breed. Being 'agile and athletic' does not make a dog safe. I never stated that! And general public needs to stop condemning things they know nothing about! Again I see absolutely nothing wrong In that vid You're seeing what you want to see, I'm sitting on the other side of the fence and clearly do not see the same So agree to disagree as they say

Certain humans have no place In society either, shall we exterminate them too! Hehe.......if only we could !!! :D I have to admit R&B , when it comes to my own dogs ,pitties do worry me. We have a fair few PBs ,staffies and crosses thereof around our area...,many of which are loose at the front of their properties.......so these days because of it I rarely take the pleasure to walk my dogs . Instead I drive them to local parks to exercise them. I also believe that once pitties are off the scene.....the next bull breed to take their place in trouble will be the American Bulldog. I am seeing more and more of this breed and none seem to have a very nice disposition. I would be worried too walking my dogs with any loose breeds out In front of their properties, but that's not a breed specific problem, more a irresponsible owner problem

Pitbulls haven't "worked" legally for many years. They no longer perform their original function and much as I would never sanction nor condone dog fighting, frankly I think its part of the problem because the human aggression that would have been ruthlessly culled in the breed is now encouraged by a small proportion of fanciers (and that's the start of the problem) Then we have the type of folk attracted to the breed for the wrong reasons. The tough macho types who give their dogs tough names and drape them in studs and leather and apppear to enjoy them intimidating others. Its one thing to admire the breed for its courage and tenancity and another entirely to encourage manifestations of anti-social behaviour in the dogs. Sadly, BSL has shut down opportunities for these dogs to attend training in most states but we hardly ever see them at our dog club where they'd have the opportunity to be good ambassadors for the breed. The "circle the wagons and stuff everyone else" paradigm adopted by the breeds defenders in the anti-BSL fight didn't help either. But none of this means that the dogs are inherently dangerous.. lets not lose sight of that. Half the time the dog they use as the testing dog in temperament tests on shows like Animal Cops is a pitbull... a happy, tail waggy friendly dog. But I was talking about the video posted I wasn't talking about the tough macho types who drape their dogs In studs etc which Is not just reserved for Pitties either! Even though yes I do agree with what you're saying there but I see none of that In the vid, just average people enjoying their dogs And I still see them and regard them as a working dog regardless of whether they are performing one of their original functions which I might add AMEN to that one! Thankfully they have other functions they excell at where they are not banned such as, therapy dogs, detection, S&R just to name a few