RottnBullies

Ignorant bleeding hearts are the cause of a lot of trouble, that is why people here pull others up when they act without any facts and on emotion. Real world things get screwed up by people living in lalaland. And Ignorant callous people cause a lot more trouble In this world! I'm sick to death of hearing this pathetic phrase labelling people here who have opinions that differ, give It a rest

Yes, true. The accuracy of the statements must be questioned. Still, there are a lot of statements in that one piece that do not sound just. Where there is smoke there is fire as they say.... I doubt any picture painted will be rosy. However the thread about this practice in Brisbane revealed that the colony dogs used there were treated well, got a lot of TLC and their management for procedures and eventual euthanasia was respectful and considerate. Why would Melbourne necessarily be any different. I read some time ago after that petition was circling around that this practice In the Brisbane Uni was made to stop? Can anyone confirm this please

LINK One Dog And 79 Commandos Kill Osama Bin Laden Arthur Jeon, Global Animal According to The New York Times, the team that killed Osama bin Laden was comprised of 79 commandos and one dog. No news yet on what breed he or she was, or what role the dog played in the mission. However, Navy Seals, the force that conducted the mission, have long worked with the Newfoundland breed. The Newfoundland dogs are best known as working dogs with "water rescue and pulling skills," so it's unclear whether this breed would have been deployed on the land-locked mission in Pakistan. The Newfoundland dogs – or Newfies – can jump from helicopters to rescue people in the water and also work with the Coast Guard as well as serving as canine lifeguards on beaches in Europe (see story of the 300 rescue dogs in Italy's Coast Guard). In fact, a Newfoundland dog on the sinking Titanic managed to swim in the icy waters for three hours and alert a rescue ship by barking. Weighing up to 150 pounds and standing 2 feet at the shoulders, Newfoundlands are described as having "great strength, an instinct to save and a heart of gold." The breed's rescue instincts are said to come naturally and they've been known to jump off boats to save people who are drowning. Newfies are also physically equipped to be in the water: they have webbed feet and water-repellent coats, which make them buoyant and, hence, good swimmers. More likely, the dog on the bin Laden operation would have been a smaller German Shepherd with a highly specific mission. Some dogs are trained to silently locate booby traps and concealed enemies such as snipers. The dog's keen senses of smell and hearing would make him or her far more effective at detecting these dangers than humans. The best scout dogs are described as having a disposition between docile tracking dogs and aggressive attack dogs. Contemporary dogs in military roles are also often referred to as police dogs, or in the United States, as a Military Working Dog (MWD) or K-9. Their roles are varied, though they are rarely used in front-line missions. Traditionally, the most common breed for these military-type operations has been the German Shepherd. In recent years, there's been a shift to smaller dogs with more resilient breeds with keener senses of smell for detection work, such as the Belgian Malinois and Dutch Shepherd for patrolling and law enforcement. Today, all MWDs are paired with a single individual after their training. This person is called a handler. While a handler usually won't stay with one dog for the length of either's career, usually a handler will stay partnered with a dog for at least a year, and sometimes much longer. Change has also come in legislature for the benefit of the canines. Prior to 2000, older war dogs were required to be euthanized. Thanks to a new law, retired military dogs may now be adopted, the first of which was a dog named Lex, whose handler was killed in Iraq. In the 1970s, the US Air Force included over 1,600 dogs worldwide. Today, personnel cutbacks have reduced USAF dog teams to approximately 530 dogs who are stationed throughout the world. Most dogs who operate in these roles are trained at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, the only United States facility that currently trains dogs for military use. Great to hear a dog was part of the team

And so they should be frighteningly alarmed You have got to be kidding, mr smith! well there Is already plenty of room for reduction seeing as you kill 6 out of every 10 dogs and 9 out of every 10 cats! What I don't understand Is how In the hell are they winning these new contracts with their grave past stats of V High kill rates In both Dogs and Cats and they're complete Incompetence In being able to reunite dogs with owners when owners are clearly seeking their dogs back......Brindle comes to mind, one very sad case ;) ;)

LINK SPCA To Exhume Dead Sled Dogs The Province May 1, 2011 1:06 AM The B.C. SPCA has obtained a warrant to exhume the bodies of an estimated 100 sled dogs that were culled in Whistler last year by their owner and operator, Outdoor Adventures. A press conference outlining the animal protection enforcement agency's plan is scheduled for today. The SPCA first learned of the incident in January after the dogs' killer, Robert Fawcett, filed a WorkSafe B.C. report claiming post-traumatic stress from the shootings, but have had to wait until now while the ground thawed to exhume the mass grave for forensic evidence.

Sorry for the OT...... Thanks for that I was always meaning to try It, now I guess I'll give It a miss, another one I was also told about was to feed some jelly beans but only the black ones! Not really game enough to try It though Yes that is true, but it doesn't work because I've tried it.

Agree with this. If you have a BA stating the dog is say a Staffordshire Bull Terrier Cross then register in new council area in the new State as a Stafford X That is true but there are loads of dogs in Queensland and any of the other states that have BSL, that are not safe and could be classed as RB. Really both of my dogs could be classed as RB (if they used that stupid 22 point system) when in truth one is just a Bull Arab/Pig Dog. If the person taking the dog is responsible ie: making sure the dog is contained, no escaping, keeping on the good side of the neighbours etc then I don't think they will have any dramas. If the dog escapes and is picked up it is a different story but any dog who looks remotely like an RB runs the same risk. Otherwise having copies of the current BA as well as letter from a Vet stating that the dog is such and such a breed then at least they have something to fall back on. I hear ya on all ........But my point Is this "dog" has already been assessed and has passed, It Is not a RB, It should be free to live It's life without the "Worry" of being pulled up and harrassed again

Best wishes Ollie boy

FFS! are you for real! What a really stupid comment to make This Is a very tragic story, I feel for this woman her family and all who had to witness what would have been pretty horrid and shocking to say the least

I agree too, but basically the dog becomes "Not Safe" again because It's moving State, so council can pick the dog up and claim It's a RB, therefore starting the process all over again Agree with this. If you have a BA stating the dog is say a Staffordshire Bull Terrier Cross then register in new council area in the new State as a Stafford X

Arrgghh Just what I didn't want to hear, I realized the different processes vary by State, but would of thought one BA Is enough! How many times do they need to put a dog through the wringer Geo the dog Is not of restricted breed, not according to It's current BA. So wouldn't think they would declare It Restricted just because of moving

These are really great, something I had never thought of, so thank you for posting. I'm wondering though I've had all but one urn completly sealed, is there a way of opening the seal without damaging or breaking the urn? I thought It was a good Idea at the time but now wishing I hadn't Sorry for the OT question

Oh my heart just sank on reading that first post, I'm so glad to hear he has settled I hope It all goes well at the vets tomorrow, he's such a tough lil munchkin

Hi guys, Need to know If a dog has and passes a BA In NSW, what's the go If It moves to another state say QLD? Is the dog still safe or does It need another BA done In the new State? Much appreciated for any Info

How devastating for you all, so very sorry Run Free Odie n Jazz

I like them, I especially like the zip up back, so there's no need to go over their heads, so much easier to get them on. Price wise maybe start at something like $15? for small sizes and Increase for larger sizes

LINK Keeping "Impure" Dogs May Be Banned In Iran Pampered pooches may not be everyone's idea of "man's best friend", but a bill proposed by politicians in Iran could take this sentiment to a new extreme – by criminalising dog ownership. According to Time magazine, the draft legislation is the first time MPs in Tehran have outlined specific punishments for "the walking and keeping" of "impure and dangerous animals", which many believe directly targets Iran's canine population. If the bill were passed, the illegal animal would be confiscated and the owner fined up to £300, but the bill does not clarify what fate would await the seized animals. Islamic tradition considers dogs, like pigs, to be "unclean" animals. Despite this, keeping dogs as pets has become an increasingly popular pastime among the Iranian middle class in recent years – a trend which the new bill describes as "a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West". There is no official estimate of Iran's canine population, but Iranian vets estimate that thousands of dogs are kept as pets in Tehran alone. The proposed bill builds on another motion tabled last week, which plans to ban dogs from public places and private flats, according to news reports. Current laws already forbid dog owners from allowing their pets to ride with them in their cars, and from walking their dogs in public places, but these are rarely enforced.

maybe if they want to stop the killing of unwanted animals they should institute pound systems that work better. ya know actually WANT to give lost animals back to their owners (nah ...) One particular HORRID Vic pound springs to mind there, and I couldn't agree more lilli

LINK Mother And Son Charged Over Dog Stabbing A mother and son have been charged after a dog was stabbed to death in western Sydney. A man found a pit bull terrier with severe injuries at Merrylands about 10.30pm last Thursday. The man drove the dog to a veterinary hospital in Homebush where vets discovered it had been stabbed 11 times in the head and body and had had its leg tied. The dog was euthanised a short time later. Police on Monday arrested a man and his mother at a home in Chester Street, Merrylands, and during a search of the property seized a number of items for forensic examination. The 20-year-old man has been charged with one count of torture, beat and cause death of animal and has been refused bail to appear in Fairfield local court on Tuesday. The 37-year-old woman has been charged with concealing her son's actions and been granted conditional bail to appear in the same court on May 10, 2011

If only people who are so concerned about docking being cruel, would only put their energies now towards lobbying for harsher penalties for real cruelty cases, which Is most certainly cruelty In It's highest form, but yet these people are lucky to get a small fine for what they've done, I guess outta sight outta mind comes to the equation For the record I prefer "the look' of a docked breed, just like I prefer the look of certain breeds compared to others, I don't see why people who prefer docked need to be frowned upon and harrassed

I used to own 3 Dobes, all docked, If I'm ever lucky enough to own another It will most certainly an Import. I like Rotties docked too but a lot of them don't look as bad with a tail as a Dobie does IMO

Some people just don't deserve the right to breath

LINK Pig Hunts May Get The Bullet Over Use Of Dogs THE Game Council of NSW is calling for volunteers to use dogs to hunt feral pigs in state forests, but the practice appears to break state government animal cruelty guidelines. The council, which receives about $3.5 million in public funding, has advertised expeditions into Nundle, Hanging Rock and Tomalla state forests in the New England region of NSW, starting on April 30. Hunters will be teamed up with groups of five dogs that ''may be used to find, bail and/or hold feral pigs in accordance with all relevant hunting and animal welfare legislation, regulation and requirements,'' the council says. Advertisement: Story continues below But the legality of ''pigdogging'' hinges on whether packs of trained dogs simply locate pigs or whether they ''hold'' them in position until a hunter arrives and kills the pig with a gun or a knife. ''It is unacceptable to set a dog on to a feral pig with the intention of bringing it down, holding or attacking it,'' say feral pig guidelines produced for the NSW Department of Primary Industries. ''If dogs are used to flush feral pigs out from vegetation, they must be adequately controlled to prevent them from attacking pigs. In the event that a dog latches on to a pig, the dog must be called off and be made to stay behind the shooter until the pig has been killed.'' The NSW Greens are calling on the new state government to ban the hunt, calling it ''a blood-sport on public land''. The Game Council said it believed it was operating within standard rules, and hunters had attended workshops in the presence of a veterinarian. ''The objective is not to have a fight between the pig and the dog but to halt the pig's escape or movement so it can be killed quickly and humanely,'' the council said. ''Dogs are trained to hold an animal with minimum force required. This is managed by breeding and training which is non-violent, based on dog-whispering techniques developed by Cesar Millan.'' Mr Millan is a US author and self-styled ''dog psychologist''. The council said it was invited to undertake the hunt by Forests NSW because it was the best way to control the rising number of feral pigs. An animal rights body, Animals Australia, said that because the council was a publicly funded organisation, the proposed hunt would be ''state-sanctioned animal cruelty''. ''I believe 'holding' is just a euphemism for biting and savaging the other animals until the hunters arrive,'' said the executive director of Animals Australia, Glenys Oogjes. ''It's one animal being pitted against another animal. The pigs are fighting for their lives and it means both the dogs and the pigs are in great danger.'' A Greens MP, David Shoebridge, said the hunt would contradict government guidelines. ''There may be a role for a single dog being used by a professional hunter to track feral pigs, but the Game Council is proposing using dogs to fight with feral pigs, in the course of which both dogs and the pigs will face serious mauling,'' he said.

Exactly poochmad I'm not being racist by saying this but do you think they're not doing anything maybe because she Is Aboriginal? I always hear that they kinda get away with lots of things, not sure how true that may be though ETA: Thanks for that link, I'm just really peeved because council knows very well what the laws are, and It should be dealt by them, first