Sheridan

That's what I have set up to do wees in. I can shift it to somewhere else and give it a try.

I'm not sure I could cope with three, even if one was housetrained. :D I think my issue is that the hysterics results in a wee/poo inside from the screechy one. Plus often, we don't even get out the door unless I carry them which I'm doing at night. Have I ingrained doing wees with being carried?

Will post pictures in exchange for toilet training help. Training two at once is an issue. I take out Bunny, Roo does a wee/poo in the house and visa versa. I take both out at once, it's playtime. If I take one out the other has hysterics inside which is a distraction. I have taken Bunny out in lead. She stands there and stares at me. I have tried training them to go in one spot, in a small pen, worked twice.They sit there or fight to get out, one at a time. I have tried newspaper, something with wee already on it, no go. How long do I give them outside at a time to do something because the length of time can be half an hour sometimes with nothing happening then inside, wee. Help.

My neighbour had a pet service when she went away one Christmas. One day I timed the hour walk that her very energetic kelpie x was supposed to be taken on each day. It was 9 minutes. Decided then and there never to hire a pet service.

Will try this afternoon. :)

Miss Bunny can now get up on the couch. Kerry blues like being up high and I've found that sitting next to me calms her down a bit. Roo prefers sitting on my feet. Both can now get up on my bed, ratbags.Bunny is doing reasonably well with lead training, though we're at the stage where she's watching my hand all the time. Roo is doing less well with lead training but admittedly, I've been concentrating on Bunny a bit more because she's more of a live wire. She can sit a bit. He can't sit at all but again, small steps.Bunny settled down very quickly last night. I was surprised. She didn't have hysterics until around 5 am when we went back to bed after a trip outside.They've also discovered rain and typical kerry and wheaten, it's all, 'You want me to go out in that?'

I imagine that the RSPCA has a HQ in Canberra for the same reason other lobby groups do.

Fairly normal.

They both have several cuddle toys and big blankets to snuggle in. I'm wondering if I should swap them over crate wise? Or put the crates together? The latter is more difficult as I'd have to shift the bed. He looks for food in the crate and she now looks for food in his crate. If I make them closer together or put her in his crate?

Bunny has complete meltdown hysterics.

Edited quote above. I think this post really speaks to me as a new double puppy owner. I took my puppies to my sister's house yesterday and her dogs barely told them off when they went over the top. Bunny did a poo in her crate and Roo did a wee on the way home. I don't know people to introduce them to in safe territory nor people with dogs to meet and greet. So whither socialisation?

Hmm, interesting development. Bunny, aside from now being able to jump up on the couch, is now having complete hysterics at being crated.

They have separate crates in the bedroom and a playpen with a crate in it in the lounge room.

Actually, I'm not sure if they're friends or not. They play together, often quite roughly and it usually ends with one humping the other. They're sleeping together at my feet at the moment, which is very cute. One of my concerns about them sleeping together is that they will be entire for some time as I intend to show them. If I establish separate sleeping conditions now, isn't that better?

I've started with a small necklace chain with Roo. He's okay with it hanging form the collar so far.

The reason live baiting and the dog escaping was thrown in was because it paints a picture.

Well, two very tired puppies. They ran around like mad things most of the day because i wanted to get the yard clean up underway. My BIL came over and cut down a bush that they decided to chew on. It was directly under the clothes line and had been annoying me for ages so I'm glad to see the back of it. There's a bucket over the stump and I'm wondering whether to make it a wee post of sorts. We also had our first vomit. Bunny threw up. Looked like part of her brekkie and a combination of dirt and leaves, etc. The people who designed the yard used small pebbles instead of dirt and mulch and they're everywhere. I'm forever taking things out of their mouths. No dinner tonight. She also crashed into Roo and was limping a little. She is fine now but we'll be visiting the vet tomorrow as a just in case.

I've been trying to get Roo out first and get him to double wee then poo. Then separately bring out Bunny. Trouble is when he pitches a hissy then goes inside. They've just had a time out in their crates so I could do some stuff, now it's outside time again.

I'm bemused by the assumption that people automatically have dog runs. They've played madly outside for hours and both did wees when they came inside, Roo in his crate. He wasn't have Ng a sleep or anything or having a time out. I put something in the bedroom and he went in his crate and wee/ed.

I have noticed that Bunny is, simply because of her age, is better at signalling than Roo is. I've worked out her signal for going outside is to run and jump around madly and woe betide if I miss it. As far as I can tell Roo has no signal yet. He has hysterics after he's done a wee or poo inside. Still keen on getting an opinion on my query above about swapping out the playpen for crates in the lounge. Even though I've fed Bunny in the lounge room crate, she and Roo have both wee-ed and poo-ed in there and in the playpen. She hasn't done either in her bed crate. He has because I was out longer than I expected today but otherwise hasn't. On lead training, I did a little letting Roo drag a lead around while I bribed him with mince. He then ate his dinner with it on. I took it off soon after because Bunny decided to pull him around on it. Also had a little success with getting Bunny to sit, again with the mince incentive.

Do you attach the chain to the collar or use it as a collar?

Thanks all, I spoke to someone today recommended by All Round Good Hounds.

Thanks for IDing the panels. I found some at Bunnings today. While I'm gardening I'm going to set up a pen for the ratbag puppies.

I've been looking at different websites for leash training because I really want to be able to get Bunny and Roo out and about and socialising asap. Bunny is okay with a collar on so far but sees the leash as a chew toy. Roo, being younger and less mature, is at the scratch it off stage. I can't currently leave collars on to get them used to them without locking one away as they chew on the other's collar. Some tips on this would be good as it's a safety issue at the moment. Most websites and videos on leash training, and particularly on leash chewers, assume that the puppy can already sit, stay, and watch the owner on command. This one, however, makes some good suggestions. Be keen on people's opinions on lead training. http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=1538

Don't I know it. She definitely needs to have some good ground rules. She's very noisy when playing and doesn't currently have an off switch.