Sheridan

Hence my view expressed earlier that I would not be using any recently graduated vet. Give me someone who actually has hands on experience rather than some kid who doesn't have a clue.

I certainly won't be using any graduate vet or nurse to take care of my dogs.

Thank you. I applaud your dedication and wish that some people would get a clue.

so how do you propose vet students learn if you aren't willing to let them learn on your pets? cadavers. And I am willing to let already EXPERIENCED vet students learn on my pets as long as there is an experienced vet assisting them. And for those vet students to become experienced... again... I say cadavers. I think you missed the bit when we said that we weren't happy to trust our dogs life on someone who was still learning not to be sqeamish around dogs and insides and euthanasia etc etc. Not sure how you'd learn to diagnose various diseases that depend on the dog not being dead. And ETA, a bit hypocritical that you're okay with a dog being killed so a vet student can learn as long as it's not done by a student. It's okay, for example, for the dog to be killed at a pound and then transported to a vet hospital? the bold: that doesn't make sense to me? And Absolutely NOT! Did you not read my first post? I am against euthanasia altogether. I DO NOT think it is an ok to euthanise an animal unless it is dying or in a lot of pain. this was my post: And I don't know how you'd learn to diganose various diseases - don't they do that through blood tests, x-rays and other tests? They don't do surgeries to 'diagnose' diseases do they? I think it's fairly clear that you don't know a whole lot about veterinary practices. Perhaps you've been lucky enough never to have a dog be sick or injured at all. Maybe you should spend a day at a vet surgery because thus far your comments are pretty bloody insensitive whether or not they're about dogs or people.

so how do you propose vet students learn if you aren't willing to let them learn on your pets? cadavers. And I am willing to let already EXPERIENCED vet students learn on my pets as long as there is an experienced vet assisting them. And for those vet students to become experienced... again... I say cadavers. I think you missed the bit when we said that we weren't happy to trust our dogs life on someone who was still learning not to be sqeamish around dogs and insides and euthanasia etc etc. Not sure how you'd learn to diagnose various diseases that depend on the dog not being dead. And ETA, a bit hypocritical that you're okay with a dog being killed so a vet student can learn as long as it's not done by a student. It's okay, for example, for the dog to be killed at a pound and then transported to a vet hospital?

so how do you propose vet students learn if you aren't willing to let them learn on your pets? The vets I used to see in Geelong loved it when they had students in and I brought my last kerry blue in. That boy would put up with anything and they could poke and prod all they liked. Of course, Grumpy would be a different prospect for them but I've never seen a vet student in a surgery other than at my previous vet.

And what exactly do you do for them now aside from kill them? A further reduction? Has it actually reduced at all?

I am aware of dogs dying in pounds. I have simply raised a few questions and I find it interesting that most are skipping over the things that need questioing in their rapid support for the practice. I support using live animals for education. I'd still like to know more about the program though and how it is run. Then ring them up. I've had occasion to use the services of the Werribee Vet Clinic. They have the specialist cases referred there because that's where the experts are. I think it sounds like that student isn't long for the veterinary profession if she can't handle surgery on a dog. What did she think training was going to involve?

Vivitonin?

But not all dogs are kept for 28 days now, I believe. Is that correct?

My favourite clanger from a wheaten breeder:

I suspect the 'Canine Ownership Registry' is actually the microchip registry.

I feed my two Woolies Homebrand tuna, mackerel and sardines, along with Holistic Select Anchovy and Salmon. Mini doesn't have any food issues (aside from only wanting to eat treats) but Grumpy does. The vet put it down to a change of environment when he moved to live with me. We did the whole food trial thing and settled on this. When I couldn't get Holistic Select, I tried ProPlan but Grumpy got low grade pancreatitis (ProPlan has animal fat in it) and Mini wouldn't touch the stuff. I ended up putting them on a Royal Canin veterinary diet food, which doesn't contain meat. I still have some of this left and they get it for breakfast. I would like to put Grumpy on the Hills brain diet food but am a bit wary due to his tummy issues.

I believe a fair whack of the IRWS are working dogs in Ireland.

If the strays are from the neighbouring council then the council that DR is in ought to be liaising with that council.

I wouldn't mind taking Grumpy to show the Beneful people what a wheaten is supposed to look like.

What is 'an epidemic of dogs'?

Toys are in a big wooden box (lidless), bought by Grumpy's breeder from Times Past Furniture in Braidwood, especially for doggy toys. Grumpy tends to dive into the box to find the one he wants, while Mini drags them off the top. Leads and collars are on the hat stand. Grooming equipment is not so well organised. I need a grooming box.

Like the dalmatian backcross project, this has apparently got a segment of the IRWS community up in arms.

Not one of the brain's trust, the old Wayne. Neither is anyone who follows him.

I managed to trick Grumpy into his crate last night. Quite pleased with myself.

This is great news. Please keep us informed. Westiemum, you should advise AQIS when vetrg comes back with the info!

Grumpy goes into a funk if he's told off after having grump at Mini or me. He just flattens himself and sometimes doesn't come out of it for hours.

Let us know what hoops you have to jump through if it's a permit. Maybe the vet can get a permit?

I do not think this word means what you think it means ...