Sheridan

I'm told the dog is found.

The Anatolian club is aware of him.

My dogs were bred with care and attention to temperament and health. Their parents weren't just shoved together to make pondscum some money in the lead up to Christmas.

I know of a number that shed badly.

Whoa there, Gruf. You're mixing the sensible with logic. :laugh: I don't disagree that a dog's worth should be judged to some extent on its function but with the oodly dogs, function is an unknown. They can't be claimed to be hypoallergenic, they can't be claimed to be non-shedding, they can't be claimed to be good family pets, and really, they can't be claimed to be anything because it's all rolls of the dice. Comparing an oodly dog to.. a greyhound: The greyhound will be a big dog, probably weighing between 25-35kg. It will have a smooth, short coat that sheds fairly minimally. It will have most, if not all, the traits of a sighthound. When you breed two greyhounds together, you know what the basic template will be. On the other hand, the lab x poodle could be a smallish dog, it could be a medium dog, it could be quite a large dog, its coat could be one of many things. It's impossible to predict which traits from which breed will end up in each puppy and because of that, you can't say it's good for [X] function (such as non-shedding pet) because it's an unknown. An update for anyone interested, regarding the BIL's lab x poodle.. Yesterday, it was confirmed that its other knee has now gone. Below is a quote taken from the breeder's website: I guess that sound health with hybrid vigor doesn't include hips or knees. Their dog will likely be crippled with arthritis before it even gets close to being an old dog. Great family pet, right there. Cos hybrid vigour is about species not breeds. Actually, I think it was originally about peas.

Purebred dog breeders are regulated by their state domestic animals legislation and the relevant code of practice, something the Victorian agricultural minister, Jaala Pulford, doesn't seem to understand or at least, won't acknowledge. Her picking at Dogs Vic members in the press and at the inquiry seems to indicate an agenda beyond getting rid of puppyfarms. Victorian breeders who are Vic dogs members and who have less than 10 dogs don't have to follow the code of practice for breeding dogs because they currently have an exemption. Other breeders in Victoria who have more than 3 dogs have horrendous things to comply with suited to large scale commercial breeders and the big stink is because if the exemptions are removed the Vic Dogs members will have to do what everyone else has already had to do to legally breed a dog - Get a DAB. So it is actually the cross bred breeders who cant be members of Vicdogs who are regulated by the code of practice and Vicdogs members who own more than 10 fertile dogs.. I said relevant code of practice. There is more than one. The commercial one you've noted and the one for the private keeping of dogs. Well the relevant code of practice in Victoria lets Vicdogs members off the hook and they are regulated no differently than any dog owner if they have less than ten dogs so being regulated by that is a far cry from being regulated as other breeders are. What part of more than one code of practice did you not get?

Above from Shel's blog. So why isn't rescue regulated? Does it not fall under state jurisdictional codes of practice?

I thought AWDRI (?) was a fairly decent rescue with a good reputation. Seems not?

Purebred dog breeders are regulated by their state domestic animals legislation and the relevant code of practice, something the Victorian agricultural minister, Jaala Pulford, doesn't seem to understand or at least, won't acknowledge. Her picking at Dogs Vic members in the press and at the inquiry seems to indicate an agenda beyond getting rid of puppyfarms. Victorian breeders who are Vic dogs members and who have less than 10 dogs don't have to follow the code of practice for breeding dogs because they currently have an exemption. Other breeders in Victoria who have more than 3 dogs have horrendous things to comply with suited to large scale commercial breeders and the big stink is because if the exemptions are removed the Vic Dogs members will have to do what everyone else has already had to do to legally breed a dog - Get a DAB. So it is actually the cross bred breeders who cant be members of Vicdogs who are regulated by the code of practice and Vicdogs members who own more than 10 fertile dogs.. I said relevant code of practice. There is more than one. The commercial one you've noted and the one for the private keeping of dogs.

I don't use Rescue Remedy for my dog anymore. I use Brauer's Calm tablets. I find me more effective over a period of time.

Purebred dog breeders are regulated by their state domestic animals legislation and the relevant code of practice, something the Victorian agricultural minister, Jaala Pulford, doesn't seem to understand or at least, won't acknowledge. Her picking at Dogs Vic members in the press and at the inquiry seems to indicate an agenda beyond getting rid of puppyfarms.

Either a purebred breeder who is complicit or who is lied to. I know one of the latter, someone who rang me in great distress on finding out about their dog.

As someone with breeds that don't shed and one that gets mistaken for an oodle most of the time, it amazes me that people fall for the non-shedding aspect of oodledom. I have met a number of people with oodles recently whose dogs shed more than Labradors in general. They always seem so puzzled about it.

And it's very clear OL and AA (and the RSPCA to some extent) have very fixed ideas, will not change their minds, and cannot understand a reasoned, logical point of view. Breeders are all bad no matter what. That's it. That's their position.

Registered breeders cannot argue restriction of trade in one breath and argue they should not be treated like a commercial enterprise in the next. the pet shops can in spades pretty rich to tell us that selling a puppy bred by a breeder will have poor outcome for the puppy and the buyer. BUT its fine for rescue pups and dogs? thats like telling Harvey Norman you can only stock Westinghouse and no other brand, THAT certainly is restriction of trade Then feel free to argue that to the politicians. Given one of the objections to this Bill's amendments is Dogs Vic's members are not a business it is not an argument that should be made about them.