centitout

too many reactions for my liking,but i also dont yearly vaccinate for the same reason.

I owned the grandmother,the only problem she has is a recurring ear infection in one ear at nearly 7 yrs old.The grandfather as far as i know hasnt had any skin issues,he did end up having a heart problem after a dog bite to his ear became septic and became centalised around his heart (endocarditis??) he is still alive though.None of the 25 pups from that mating have had any allergy problems that i am aware of ,nor have i heard of any on Bono's side(his mother is a sister to the granddams mother) and her owner hasnt had any problems there either.The sire has only been used a few times(imp) here,bu thavent heard anything untoward there. Can allergies be ruled out only by bloodtests,or is intradermal testing required as well? Maybe that can be used to screen that line if allergy problem is suspected?

I'm more inclined in my case to say it is possibly a contact irritant-i worked for years in a nursery and a lot of conifers,grevilleas,natives etc used to cause a few of us grief when we had to repot,maintain them etc. The kids chi isnt related but is suffering the same symptoms.Since moving to this house,my 13 year old daughter has developed coeliac disease as well,so i'm starting to think there is something going on here,we are surrounded by a wheat field and ringed by orchards at the edge of the field? None of my other owners have reported any allergy problems ,i am bringing a new male (adult) up soon from a different line,so will be interesting to see what happens after he is here for a while. Working in a vet clinic i have seen heaps of allergy cases,including a few blue coloured dogs of different breeds,most were working dogs,and quite a few just cross bred SWF with no familial link,and the allergies ranged from grasses through to food,dust etc,so not just in purebreds. How would you work out which parent was carrying a problem like allergies and would you be better off to scrap both lines in th ecase of a familial link being identified?

Mine get a whole egg including shell every couple of days.To my way of thinking the whole egg is balanced,when you take part of it away(shell) you then unbalance it? Just my own theory

Allergies can not be cured with herbal/homeopathy or any other 'complimentary' treatment, these treatments however can be of a great asset to manage symptoms as can western non-steroid treatments as well as steroids if it does come to that. Allergies are genetic and can not be cured, they can only be managed. Hair Analysis via hands over the hair and getting energy readings? *shakes head* Perhaps that $ is better spent at the Dermatologist... Allergic skin disease is a serious condition and needs to be addressed in an appropriate manner.....with a qualified Dermatologist before the owner starts to use Cortisone. Hi SAS, sorry,not sure i agree with you that all allergies are strictly genetic-i have 8 itchy dogs here at the moment and we are scratching(literally) our heads trying to work out the cause.Happened same time last year,th ekids chi was also affected and did not resolve with washes etc,only cortisone. Only thing i am seeing similarities is that they have all been laying under a big shady Thuja tree( type of conifer) and the itching is confined to contact area ie brisket and esp the elbows.If it was genetic then why is the kids chi affected as well?All of us have developed severe hayfever as well(2 of us had it mild before). Only happenes at this time of year,and 2 of the affected dogs now(rest are the pups born here) never had a problem at the old house,nor did Bono,he was affected this year too(before he died).Also ,we are surrounded by a big wheat field that has just been harvested and the owner uses a mix of the deadchooks,chook poo ,strw etc from his chicken farm on the field-same time last year,so may be connected to that ????

There are a few ways to correct entropian,i just had to get one done,only one in the last 3 litters from parents with good eyes. But there was absolutely no need to do that,why the hell didnt they get someone who knew what they were doing in if it was that bad-after all they fly in specialists from other states to check debarked dogs.

i wouldnt wait either.

And that is the conundrum isn't it? The majority of bloodhounds are pets only,very few people want to work them,so personally i like them to be a little lower drive (not lacking though) and definately NOT over the top-although that can be the way they are trained. I like mine to be a passive response dog,they sit and nudge when they have identified the "victim". I couldnt think of anything worse than a hound that is so totally focused on sniffing everything in sight that is just not a joy to live with,and unfortunately you do see some like that in the USA where there is a bigger emphasis on working lines .Other responses too like jumping up/knocking down victims( some are trained to do that in USA) also have no place here,but then we are unlikely to ever have dogs trained to find/aprehend anyway. I think we need to maintain working ability ,but not at the expense of losing a breed because they are too much for the average owner.I dont just love my breed for their nose/working ability.

i have been using ivermectin for 12 years now and also have never had a problem.I dont do them while pregnant though.

So how would one go about heartworm prevention? Is it better/safer to give a daily dose of ivomec (i was told dosing rate is 1 ml per 30 kg for monthly dose)-this would make it approx 0.1 ml per day? I will NOT use the 6 mth/12 mth injectables. I just dont like the thought of my dogs having daily drugs for life,the kids chi had generalised demodex as a pup,and he was on daily ivomec for 9 mths,but that is different to life.

You can hunt deer in victoria with bloodhounds and beagles only-if they dont have papers they have to undergo an "assessment" and be passed as mainly bloodhound or beagle. That's really interesting, centitout. Do the beagles and bloodhounds track the deer for the hunters to shoot? That might be the difference as to why people can't hunt deer with Deerhounds (or other breeds). Yes, they trail the deer,goats etc,then bail them up till the hunters get there-i only have a very basic knowledge though.They generally wont go in and kill/maul them which is why they are the only breeds now allowed.

I also wouldnt have a problem with hunting the ones that showed an inclination for that-i just dont have the time,suitable propeties or really a clue as how to train them-after all,THAT is what they were bred for.

My dogs temperaments are tested not by some behaviourist ticking off boxes in an artificial setting,but by being out in the public,in different situations. If i was not entirely confident with the temp of that dog,would i expose them and me to potentially harmful situations? Enforced temp tests are not something i am willing to do to see if they are suitable to be bred-i see it when i walk my dog from the country into the main channel nine building in the middle of sydney without missing a beat,or going to school demos or walking through thousands of people at a field day with every second person wanting a pat .That is my measure of temperament.

You can hunt deer in victoria with bloodhounds and beagles only-if they dont have papers they have to undergo an "assessment" and be passed as mainly bloodhound or beagle. Bloodhounds were bred to hunt (not man trail) originally so i find it hard when people say they shouldnt be allowed to do what they are bred for? And Baylord is right about the ES not being keen at all on bloodhounds,over the past there have been some that tried to use untrained dogs,with the expected results My unit is keen to work with me this year,and the dogs training will encompass more PR work than anything at the moment + there is a private organisation i will be working the dogs for a little later down the track.Hopefully,if approached right,the hounds will be utilised for the superior cold trailers they are.

I had a bitch years ago that whelped 3 days early ,no sign of nesting etc and i got up in the morning to 4 squashed ,huge pups,4 alive. Brontes first litter of 13- whelped naturally night before,all seemed good,ran the boys to footy practise that afternoon,came home to 2 squashed,another the next day,which is now why i sleep with them for first 3-4 days and spend the next week manically checking /counting pups every 2 hrs. Had one a couple of years ago have 11,no problems,Leila was very good also,had 1 near miss (biggest pup ) but i will not take the risk.

So how do we go in my breed,where liver nosed reds are classed the same way blue staffords are.?Some dont like them, a lot of people that came to see mine liked them better than the black/tan,but i certaintly dont charge any more for them,and i dont consider them "vermin" either.I also wouldnt go out of my way to breed that colour,for the sake of colour,same as i wouldnt for predominate black or liver/tan,but if 1 or 2 pop up,so be it. They are registered as red,which is an allowable colour,this is after numerous emails to Dogsnsw,speaking to 2 other breeders that have been around a long time as well.Standards all say red,black/tan and liver tan,if they have a black mantle/saddle and eye rims-then they have to have a black nose.As long as it isnt a washed out colour,it is not a fault . There is no issue health wise,unlike some blue dogs which can have skin issues (yes have seen several badly affected BYB dogs from a few breeds with really bad problems,and the vets all agreed something to do with the colour). The best bitch from both these litters is liver nosed red,so she will be registered and shown as a red,if the judges dont put her up because of colour etc ,then that is their choice.An uphill battle i know

This is when i do intervene.Bloodhounds are big ,clumsy dogs with a tendancy to lie on pups.There is no way i would cop the loss of half a litter because staying with them th efirst couple of days is seen as intervention,survival of the fittest etc. Leila was a hand raised girl that started to fade on day 4 ,so handraised ,intensive nursing etc-she had 13 pups naturally (frozen ai),never laid on one,was the absolute best mum,but her sister was different,panicked with the first litter,laid on several(lucky i was there),this litter she was much better though. Still not a risk i will take.Nothing more heartbreaking than seeing healthy pups born and then finding them crushed the next day/s

Day 60 for both my girls post implantation with frozen AI

I dont have a problem with using AI if it is more convenient to do so, ,only in regards to distance from stud,frozen,or lines that i otherwise couldnt access,but i want that sire to have proven he can naturally mate without assistance first.I wont have any stud of mine not be able to serve naturally first. I was always against using pg tests,have always relied on teasing with a male,but Leila has a long standing time before ovulation,so if she was mated according to the books,she would not conceive,her mother was the same,ovulates around day 16/17. But i would not use it as a matter of course thing,that is why i keep teasing records for every season. C-sections are a different thing-I had Bronte desexed on the table after the 18 pups,her uterus was shot . Millie had a "waterbaby" ,not having seen it before decided to desex during the c-section,she was going to be done anyway ,2 litters is more than enough.If i had a bitch that suffered primary inertia,would not breed her again. Not aimed at anyone,but would not breed a bitch /stud that required any sort of hormone therapy or extensive intervention to hold a pregnancy etc,i take my hat off to those who are dedicated enough to do it,but it wouldnt be something i would do.

Might have been Creese????

Hi Golden girl, if there was a big red/liver nose one there-he is Yoda,a full brother to Demon and the 2 girls i have here.Mojo might also have been there,red dog,black nose-also Yoda's brother. Give them a pat for me if you do run into them.

so sorry about Grover Trish- hope everything goes ok

My girl that has just had 12 pups,and reared Millies as well from the 3 week mark was a hand raised baby from the 3rd day,big litter etc.She has never been sick yet,apart from getting itchy with too much beef. None of the 6 hand raised from that litter have had any problems healthwise,so i cant see the problem with intervention,and i dont think puppies needing supp feeding is "genetic" in any way. But then i am used to it,have handraised litters of kittens dumped at the vets,foals and puppies. I also slept with my bitches for the first 3 days too,that is classed as intervention as well and checked them every 3-4 hrs night /day for another week. To most people though,it would appear pretty daunting,but if it has to be done,well you just suck it up and have a go, i was brought up that way.

Most of the bigger dogs go for a daily walk,some like longer distances,chance for a good sniff at everything,others like Leila who is fairly lazy,are content with a 20 min walk ! Her mum used to do 5 + kms a night and would still be ready for more. I havent found too many that are problematic with being kept amused-the main thing is being able to be close to their owner,right at the back door/on the verhanda is the best spot for them.They can become a pain and develop destructive behaviours like any dog,if they miss out on interaction with people/dogs etc.

I will take it out if i can find it.Dyson is being used at a few events now with my unit,which brings him into very close contact with the public, and alot of people just arent dog savvy.