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BIS - Petite Bassett Griffon Vendeen RUIS - Labrador Retriever

Pastoral Shortlist 1. Australian Shepherd 2. Belgian Shepherd Dog (Tervuren) 3. Border Collie 4. German Shepherd Dog 5. Old English Sheepdog 6. Pyrenean Mountain Dog 7. Pyrenean Shepherd 8. Samoyed 9. Shetland Sheepdog 10. Welsh Corgi (Cardigan) Group 1 - Australian Shepherd Group 2 - Shetland Sheepdog Group 3 - German Shepherd Dog Group 4 - Old English Sheepdog

Working Shortlist 1. Alaskan Malamute 2. Bernese Mountain Dog 3. Bouvier Des Flandres 4. Bullmastiff 5. Dobermann 6. Rottweiler 7. Tibetan Mastiff Group 1 - Bernese Mountain Dog Group 2 - Bouvier Des Flandres Group 3 - Rottweiler Group 4 - Bullmastiff

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Crufts 2013 Gundogs Shortlist 1. Bracco Italiano 2. German Shorthaired Pointer 3. German Wirehaired Pointer 4. Hungarian Wirehaired Vizsla 5. Chesapeake Bay Retriver 6. Labrador Retriever 7. Cocker Spaniel (American) 8. Irish Water Spaniel 9. Spanish Water Dog 10. Weimaraner Group 1 - Labrador Retriever Group 2 - Weimaraner Group 3 - German Shorthaired Pointer Group 4 - Irish Water Spaniel

Toy Shortlist 1. Bichon Frise 2. Chinese Crested Dog 3. Italian Greyhound 4. King Charles Spaniel 5. Papillon 6. Pomeranian 7. Pug 8. Yorkshire Terrier Group 1 - King Charles Spaniel Group 2 - Italian Greyhound Group 3 - Yorkshire Terrier Group 4 - Pomeranian

Crufts 2013 Utility Shortlist 1. Akita 2. Chow Chow 3. Dalmatian 4. French Bulldog 5. German Spitz (Klein) 6. Shiba Inu 7. Keeshond 8. Poodle (Standard) 9. Tibetan Terrier Group 1 - Tibetan Terrier Group 2 - Shiba Inu Group 3 - Poodle (Standard) Group 4 - Dalmatian

Hounds Shortlist 1. Petite Basset Griffon Vendeen 2. Beagle 3. Bloodhound 4. Dachshund (Miniature Smooth) 5. Dachshund (Miniature Wire) 6. Finnish Spitz 7. Norwegian Elkhound 8. Rhodesian Ridgeback 9. Whippet Group 1 - Petite Basset Griffon Vendeen Group 2 - Whippet Group 3 - Dachshund (Miniature Wire) Group 4 - Norwegian Elkhound

Terrier Shortlist 1. Border Terrier 2. Bull Terrier 3. Irish Terrier 4. Lakeland Terrier 5. Norwich Terrier 6. Sealyham Terrier 7. Skye Terrier 8. Welsh Terrier 9. West Highland White Terrier Group 1 - Skye Terrier Group 2 - Lakeland Terrier Group 3 - Irish Terrier Group 4 - Border Terrier

Came up ok for me - I'm not a member :)

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yes and that breeder made an example of, but no need to punish the good ones. The good ones who dock tails? There are those that only dock when accidents to happen. I know a breeder who had a litter of 4, one is docked due to injury sustained at a very young age, the other three are leading merry tailed lives.

To go or not to go... Ugh hate making holiday plans

I read on FB that Katrina Marsh's boy Beat won BIS

Absolutely the judge knows that age is the factor in the coat but a judge should be judging what is in front of them. The judge cannot predict, what comes next. What if that puppy coat comes out and the coat that replaces it is incorrect? (I have no clue if this is possible but hypothetically). I think I took this off topic, sorry...

I think you may have misunderstood. To place a dog in a puppy class first and to think that it is worthy of a title are two different things. There are some dogs that do not look "the part" until they are much older. An Afghan comes to mind, a young Afghan that just turned 6 months is a vastly different dog to a fully coated adult. This doesn't mean it's any less worthy of it's first place in Minor Puppy, but if it were the only specimen in the breed the judge might no challenge. The same dog might even get it's class in group if it's the best minor. I didn't mention non-awarding due to immaturity, just withholding the challenge.

Challenge and a class are two different things. They may be a quite young dog, first place in the puppy class is very reasonable. The judge may consider them too immature to be willing to award the challenge. There are lots of different scenarios that make a no challenge with a class placing very plausible.

There is no obligation to explain but I think a judge should be able to articulate their reasons if asked. This is what they need to do all through judges training so I hope that art isn't lost over the years.

It's running a little behind

Nvm

http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=45873 Australia's representative to the World Challenge

Top 12 in the World Challenge and I think BOW in the breed competition.

Hope that helps

That's Orlando time

Sunday, December 16, 2012 * 6:30PM Pre-Show Events 7:00PM Herding Group 7:25PM Eukanuba World Challenge Finals 7:50PM Terrier Group 8:25PM Best Bred-By Exhibitor in Show 8:40PM Working Group 9:10PM Best in Show