-Megz-

Why should I have to risk my dog when I have paid a fee to enter a show held under rules and regulations and then have someone not abiding or even aware of the same potentially harming my dog. Whether it be biting or bringing in an outside disease. Why is that ? There are rules and regs to cover the behaviour of exhibitors and exhibts at shows and consequences for dogs that behave in an aggressive manner. If your dog is attacked and injured at a show by average Joe's visiting pet, then there's not much you can do about it. Exactly Why is that ? There are rules and regs to cover the behaviour of exhibitors and exhibts at shows and consequences for dogs that behave in an aggressive manner. If your dog is attacked and injured at a show by average Joe's visiting pet, then there's not much you can do about it. But the rules could apply to everyone? If your dog misbehaves you have to leave? Unfortunately, dog attacks can happen anywhere. Some of the worst dog behaviour I have ever seen has been at breed club events - think snarling dogs going at each other and owners standing there chatting about the weather! I personally would like a code of conduct that is policed, rather than all non-show dogs being banned. As I said, I have taken my two along before and I make sure they don't bother anyone. The reason I like taking them to shows is that my ex-puppy farm breeding bitch isn't fond of people who pay her attention. At a dog show, everyone is primping and preening their own dog and ignores her - so she happily trots along. However, judging by most posts in this thread, there is now one less place I can take her to - I'm sadly running out of options. How can you enforce the rules and regulations on a person that is potentially not a member of the canine control or, even less likely, has the dog registered and could therefore be banned. Without being a member and registered there is no recourse that can come back on Joe Public at a show. If you are already a shower bringing another dog along, do you expect your dog to be covered under the public liability that the clubs or associations have? This is why I always get permission from the club to have an extra dog at the show, it covers my ass should anything happen.

We always ask permission before bring a non entered dog along to shows. The committee's are fairly lenient and get enough money out of us for entries that they don't really mind. I have always frowned on the GP bringing dogs and it's one reason that our shows aren't heavily advertised because people would never understand the why's of us saying you can't bring your dog to a dog show.

well did Megz win? I was so super excited when I checked my phone and saw a pic of my raffle tickets. They had this aura of being winning tickets to me :D

Slater aka Lowryder Radioactive, having some show practice and some fun with the hose

Mr Brock aka Aasky BenBre Big Shot We did some stacked shots but I'm obsessed with his head lol plus these are cuter

Sooooo for the important stuff. Did I win the raffle?

Can I buy some tickets? What do you reckon postage would be like?

When I posted this idea it was to generate discussion and it has,it has never been my aim to disadvantage any clubs and I am aware that some areas' are already disadvantaged to some degree ,purely by their location. We have all had our fair share of judges that we would not wish to revisit and I understand the problem and as you commented, bad judging can also give you the personal motivation to further achieve.Grooming certain breeds can be a very hard and long process and finally to arrive and be badly judged is sadly all part of the process that we have to accept.I agree with your comment re the quality of the consistent winning dogs' and the idea was born from the regular results in our journal showing a lot of these quality dogs' being carted about the countryside blatantly following a particular judge. If the dog is so good and some are. why not show against the best competition. Why do we have to accept it? The only way I know of to get rid of bad judges is to not enter under them. I figure if they keep getting low entires show secs will realise using them is not doing their club any favours money wise. By taking away my right to not enter judges, I am losing my form of protesting against them!! Note- this may not mean they are a face judge, but a judge that handles exhibits roughly for example. IMO bad judging is bad judging. It doesnt motivate me, it makes me avoid the judge!! If you do not know who is judging, dont ' you think that may go some way to prevent "those faces " following judges? all over the country.By simply not showing again under a bad judge does' nothing to halt 'face judging ' simply neither the club or the judge would know that you were displeased, because another exhibitor simply takes your place, and so it goes' on. I don't think it will prevent the cheats. The problem I see with these kind of scenarios is that they only seem to effect the honest people in any sport. You change the rules to prevent cheaters and the cheaters find another way. IMO

I have read some posts here and can summarise my point of view. 1. Dog owned/bred/handled by judge = waste of my time/money 2. Personal friend of judge = waste of my time/money 3. Previous less than ideal experience with judge = waste of my time/money 4. The show world can't keep a secret anyway so why not just put it on the schedule I like an example that my mum uses to explain dog shows to those on/thinking of joining the committees. The schedule is one part of a contract, you are telling the exhibitors that they can enter for this day at this time at this place in these classes with this judge. The exhibitor confirms that contract by entering a show. Taking that information away from an exhibitor is like saying to a new car buyer, here sign here and I'll let you know what car you are purchasing later. It is essential information to know if I want to buy that Jeep or if I thought I was getting a BMW. Klink - can you explain the scenario were NOT naming the judge will enhance the showing experience? I understand you think it will improve numbers, and whilst the majority haven't agreed, I assume this isn't the only reason to hang your hat on this suggestion?

Ditto above

Emailed

Anyone that wants the raw copies let me know and I'll flick them through - just need an email address

Slater bug had her debut in Darwin last night. At 6 months and 1 day she picked up her first points over competition and converted that to BOB and Best in Group. Super proud!

Slater bug had her debut in Darwin last night. At 6 months and 1 day she picked up her first points over competition and converted that to BOB and Best in Group. Super proud!

Miss Slater is continuing her 2011 year in the tropical North

I'm unsure why it's Dogs Vic call? Did I miss something there?

Why stop there? May as well make it really memorable and get BIS :-D

Just win a 25 point BOB or BIG on her birthday and she is titled on her birthday ;)

Just be aware that it is the age of the dog from the first day of the show, not from when you enter which could be weeks/months prior.

OK So my question is: can you show a neutered dog in a Brace property class? One would be neutered, not the other.

Nah it just died at the exact wrong time! Amazing, amazing day! So many amazing amazing dogs out there. The Tyler family must be so proud of their youngsters, Jarrod winning Puppy with the PBGV and Clare taking out the big one with the amazing Thor. Congrats to all connections and I hope someone captured Clare's face when it was announced. Now to wait patiently for the photographs to start appearing.

1 Cairn 2 Kerry 3 Smooth Foxy 4 Stafford

Terrier Shortlist Airedale Aussie Bedlington Cairn Foxy (Smooth) Kerry Blue Lakeland Stafford

Terrier Puppy - Airedale

Breeders Group - British Bulldog