asal
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There are also some so proactive they call the police even when the owners are in the car with the dogs and all windows down. Pity no one spotted them
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so sad, how right you were, many breeds are now so low in numbers if they were native animals would be on the critically endangered lists already.
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"Except as it has proven, you can make all the laws you want, restrict how many litters a bitch can have, restrict how many she can have per year, must microchip all puppies, must vaccinate all puppies, can only have so many dogs, can only breed a max of 10 litters in a 12 month period EVEN IF YOU have 11 or 12 bitches you will be in big trouble if you breed 11 litters that year (mind you that "litter" could be just one pup for a small breed BUT that 1 pup is a LITTER, or 16 in the LITTER, for the larger breeds, so a small breed breeder can produce 10 to 20 pups if they get two to a litter from 10 Litters , but the larger breeds can mean their breeder has 160 puppies or more from their 10 "litter's" yet they are not a puppy farmer as long as they were from 10 litter's. how insane is that?) or you will be inspected. CANNOT breed father to daughter or mother to son or brothers to sisters. UGH how disgusting, how unnatural. This has been a practice from time armorial for breeders to test for deleterious gene's centauries before DNA tests became reality. Deleterious gene's number in the thousands, present dna testing barely ruffles the surface yet. Arabian horse breeders knew of the existence of SCIDS over a 1000 years ago. In and Line breeding was used to bring carriers to light and clear those found to be free and create strong clear lines. By thousands of highly successful animal breeders of all species for equally 1000's of years. Ralvon Bethelem a multi, multi champion was son to mother eg Ralvon Pilgrim to his mother Trix Silver. The most famous horse in Dubai, (actually go google his name, famous around the world u will discover) MINDARI AENZAC, dubbed their National Hero, was the result of father to daughter, Ralvon Aeneas to his Daughter Mindari Wingadee. what's banned in dogs now, has repeatedly produced some of the best of the best when the genes are sound even exceptional. But hey who cares about soundness, its incest in dogs now but not yet, (anyway) in horses. But guess what? I found two puppies last week, obviously over 8 weeks old, took them to animal welfare and nope not a chip between them. a number of years ago I had two puppies stolen from my home, both were microchipped, I saw the car that stole them as it almost ran me down getting off my land. it was a white sedan but too shocked to get the number plate. some weeks later one puppy was found wandering beside a 6 lane highway near Liverpool. how she survived has to have been a miracle since she was only 6 weeks old when she was stolen and was now 14 weeks. A kind lady caught her and took her to a lady who bred the same breed who then took her to a local vet and I was phoned and home she came. For months I scanned gumtree and trading post adds as the police said many stolen dogs end up there. finally when she was 6 months old was a photo of her on gumtree, her owner had to move back to japan and couldnt afford the export costs, I rang and arranged to meet but when I got there only her old male was left, my girl had been sold, I had not dared to tell her she was stolen, I had phoned the Redfern police who met me and interviewed the lady and she was wonderful, she had the names and address of the people who bought her.. Now the interesting bit was she had bought her at Campbelltown markets, she had been told the puppies had been an unwanted gift to the wife and had no vaccination papers so she would need to have her vaccinated and microchipped. She had not bothered to have her either vaccinated or microchipped as she assumed as she lived in a high rise flat there was no chance of her getting any disease. Even in the add I found she had said, the puppy has no vaccination papers or microchip, when the police contacted the new owners they were positive their new puppy couldn't be the stolen one after learning the stolen one, had a microchip number. So agreed to take her to the nearest vet along with a police constable to prove it was not the dog I was looking for. Of course they were not happy to find out they did have a stolen dog. So much so that the family and almost a dozen friends went to the police station demanding the return of THEIR dog, the argument being whoever lost her didn't deserve to have her back or she wouldn't have been stolen in the first place! Thing's got ugly enough that when I arrived to pick up my puppy, the police had rang me and told me when I arrived to look at no one and ask for Sargent ...... and under no circumstance mention I was there about a dog. Did as was told, although it was very scary walking past that angry group looking for who was coming to get "their" pup. I was taken into an interview and reunited with Fire. but to get me back to my car safely I was taken downstairs to the paddy wagons and given a lift back to where my car was parked. SO an awful lot of people are happy to buy what they believe are unvaccinated, unchipped dogs and puppies. even though, PERISH THE THOUGHT, its BLOODY AGAINST THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DREAM ON, micromanage the law abiding into extinction but you ain't going to stop the underground puppy trade " I wrote that in 2016. still applies in 2024 pounds overflowing with un microchipped dogs!
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hey, those Battery Factory Outlet adds on bottom of the pages, dogzonline! check the stars reviews , they are utter scammers.
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so many dogs dead because people go to dog parks. safer to walk the street for exercise, but carry a big (walking) stick
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except I know of three utterly desperate people to save their dog and in every instance, even with the council order and the stat dec, not one vet would agree to operate, every vet asked would not do other than put the dog down. sentence of death these days, animal libbers prefer death to enslavement and that's who put those laws through with so many blind to the implications. ditto to all the "puppy farming" bills designed not to eliminate puppy farms. they too are licensed. but to ensure more and more registered breeders and puppy farms give up and speed up "the extinction of domestic dogs and cats" except they forgot the millions of the real backyard under the radar who never chip and on average never vaccinate either, which is why tens of thousands ending up in the pounds aren't chipped. EVERY registered breeder and puppy farm MUST CHIP. Have for over 40 years, funny that. But whose copping the blame for the thousands with no chip???? Certainly not the ones who will nver be inspected for compliance with the POCTA legislation. BUT at least the extinction agenda isn't going to be as easy to achieve as peta and its representatives under all those different names of ar groups and parties elected to "represent/eliminate" our furry friends, to hide the real agenda joe public has no clue about or ever believe anyone trying to warn them. only taken over 40 years for some to wake up, to what the rspca really is. yet it still has its "charity" status?
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I have never understood why so many vets prefer to euthanase a Barker than debark. They can still bark the difference is it is significantly less carrying . Yes a percentage can till be annoying and in the case of a friend's cattledog he even got it back but gave time to find a home that was in industrial area so no longer mattered. On the main majority remained softer bark n neighbour's stopped complaining.
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RSPCA looking to prosecute whistleblower staff at Tasmanian Labradoodles
asal replied to Redsonic's topic in In The News
Probably why so many once they realise their job at rspca is sickening, stay, hoping they can affect change until they finally give up and leave, that included my vet Richard Miller who was head vet at rspca Victoria until he had to leave due to the stress. His replacement? Hugh Worth or as Richard called him Worthless along with all the ex rspca staff he employed after they too jumped ship to save their mental health. One vet said Hugh had almost got her killed she told me, he was so careless handling the animals, particularly the horses. Think on that folks, that's how long its been a toxic workplace, Richard had been Head Vet 4 years In RSPCA Victoria before he walked away in 1978 (I think it was) before Hugh Wroth then became head vet . So that's even before we began to realise they had changed direction in the 1990's -
RSPCA looking to prosecute whistleblower staff at Tasmanian Labradoodles
asal replied to Redsonic's topic in In The News
so true, I visited a home that the hallway only had an 18" wide walkway for my feet, both sides to the walls was dog hair to 3 inches deep at the walls, to use the toilet I had to straddle all the dog poo on the floor. the laundry, kitchen dining room and lounge also was only clear walking strip then hair to the walls. Me and a friend began sweeping and putting it in the wheelie bin. The BIG ones and it was full before we had finished the lounge room. Although the 4 dogs were in beautiful condition. the owner just never swept for goodness knows how many years. my friend and I ended up being treated in hospital for asthma -
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/KdCYaJMaci4grndv/ One of the many breeds that knows "the deed" it was bred for , hilarious, so young and so focused already
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-23/kelpie-breeder-peter-austin-retiring-on-high-after-48-years/104006150?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link
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lots of assumptions. someone left the gate open. He has no idea who. now locked but im pretty sure he will have to install a separate dog proof yard to have any hope of the ranger letting him keep his dog. he didn't attack anyone
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was asked only recently how could a chap save his dog that the local ranger had decided was a potentially dangerous pit bull. From my and my vets experience both of us have been asked to put the puppy is a jack russell although we knew for certain what breed we were looking at. Most dont seem to say Am staff, instead anymore. his dog he knew is a purebred pit bull as is his other one, suggested he buy one of those dangerous dog runs with a roof and maybe the ranger will let him keep him. It all blew up when he got out onto the street and the neighbours called the ranger. only advice I could think of
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the crux of the problem is that particular type is incredibly efficient at tearing the target to pieces. the type was bred to do exactly that in dog fighting. if a kelpie, coolie, border collie, cattledog, german shepherd, attacks someone whatever the reason, being a herding dog you dont lose an arm or a leg. backing up out of their home zone will usually get you out of the threat zone, same with the majority of Doberman and rotties. some other breeds were bred to kill, they just keep coming. its interesting how similar in type the efficient killers are if it decides to attack
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Pet Detective Calls for National Microchipping Registry. ABC News 15/9/24
asal replied to Deeds's topic in In The News
its interesting that although this is one continent, supposedly, one nation, yet NOT a National pet register data base? only one reason for that, to enable thieves to take their stolen animals interstate and resell. A fact pet rescues have profited from for decades, buy from one state and ship and sell in another, been happening for decades despite heartbroken owners have been asking for a national data base for decades after some did discover their pet now registered to someone else interstate after seeing their photos online. as for the millions invested when EI landed here and tens of thousands or was it hundreds of thousands of horses microchipped and data based. within months of EI declared eradicated. There listed on greys online were millions of dollars worth listed for sale at the loss of millions and the entire data base wiped? before they wiped all that data base you could trace all those horses directly to their owners if any were lost. equally any stolen horses consigned to sales or slaughter could be directedly traced to their real owner and show up the seller was nt their legal owner! the horse theft market is huge. I saw many sold I later found out had been stolen. well remember two stunning mares that I knew on sight were pure arabians, found out 4 days later they had been stolen and told the owner the dogger who bought them. sadly she took another week to contact him and both were dead by then although he still had their hides so their brands could have been traced to the seller. but the auctioneer for some reason claimed they had no way to trace the seller as they had not listed the brands on the invoices? if the data base had been retained the scanning of all at a sale would have revealed when seller name and registered owner didn't match. But that never eventuated because why?????????? at the time I suspected too many did not want the booming trade stopped let alone traceability to the thieves, same with the dogs. never ceases to amaze me, the majority of vets dont routinely scan and record every new patient that comes into their surgery? hello? its been law, all must be chipped for how many decades now???? -
excellent way to speed up their date of death, faster population reduction for those still left though peta would be pleased
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thanks, didnt know that
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When ever I've reported a dumped dog, invariably asked to catch it first.
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it will be true for us all soon, me included
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reference article https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-31/tasmanian-labradoodles-alleged-animal-welfare-breaches/102412630 Come to think of it, Why is there no accountability for the outright lies in their story? ie " The RSPCA alleges the offending occurred between 5 April 2021 and 13 February 2023. It will be alleged one of the dogs, listed as Barbie, had six litters between October 2020 and September 2022. Another, named Chanel, allegedly had four litters, again in just under two years." Why is such drivel allowed to go the print? It is IMPOSSIBLE for any bitch to produce six litters " between October 2020 and September 2022." ditto for "Another, named Chanel, allegedly had four litters, again in just under two years." Even when a bitch actually did cycle six monthly she cant produce 4 litters "in just under two years". why aren't they held to account for such blatant lies? why isn't this fact checked by qualified reproduction vets before it gets put out there to completely mislead the general population? Along with the pollies being spoon fed these lies. as for needing more laws? Also why is it not made public ALL OVER AUSTRALIA. They have been seizing animals based solely on "the inspector formed the opinion the animals best interests would be best served by immediate seizure and removal to their Yagoona facility" Quote from a letter from The Honourable Richard Amery, Minister for Agriculture. the animal in question, had food, water, shelter and had not any of the conditions in the pocta listed for immediate seizure. Additionally even though the seizing inspector did put the animal was seized due to "a skin condition" which the seizing inspector had assumed was slight visible mange. (It actually had very low expression of blue gene alopecia, ie short hair on both ears, short hair along top of tail along rump and back on on otherwise long coat chihuhua, the dogs vet phoned every day for 13 days demanding the dogs return and explaining what he did have was blue gene alopecia, but nup they tested him for both forms of mange, hypothyroidism, for which he had absolutely NO SYMPTOMS.) MANGE is not listed as grounds for immediate seizure now, let alone in November 1999. NEITHER is hypothyroidism, although neither was even listed as the cause for seizure. they have had such extensive powers already in 1999 to seize solely on deciding to "form the opinion" that is pretty much absolute power with no avenue of appeal over 24 years ago. what part of that FACT are our politicians missing????????????????????? As they scramble to be seen to be SAVING our pets from cruelty? considering they stole a perfectly healthy dog and 13 days later all their tests had proven that he was, then returned that dog now with a torn trachea, pneumonia and dehydration so severe he had to be given antibiotics and a drip to save him within an hour of getting him back to his life time vet??? he was 4 years when stolen. So any of you really think what happened to that dog was a one off example of their incompetence??????? Let alone a wake up call to how much power they already had. let alone Then and now STILLL absolutely, NO AVENUE OF APPEAL? Lone event, hardly, met so many traumatised. many never see their pet again alive.
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Yes, that is the problem in spades, these politicians are literally falling over themselves to prove how proactive they are in drafting "animal welfare" legislation with not a clue about the actual practicalities and accept "advice" from "adviser's" with an extinction agenda of both the animals and the breeders. Along with the fact that the "enforcement" only applies to those silly enough to be registered breeders who can be traced because they have joined registers. . as for forcing them to become a registered business at the mercy of councils who on the main will NOT permit any registered dog or cat breeding "businesses in their area, Complete win, win for the Peta extinction agenda. The stupidity list just gets longer and longer. At least the good side is the majority of puppies and kittens today are not coming from the targeted breeders. So we and the general public will still be able to find a pet after all the rest are sent to extinction. Drove to Bilpin yesterday and counted 5 signs beside the road with puppy's to sale, I know three of the people and none of their dogs, although purebreds are generations of unregistered and their owners have never been a registered breeder. Well remember another friend many decades ago bought a chihuahua pup from me and crossed him to her foxie's to create miniature foxie's. Cant remember when some ANKC breeders became interested in making them a registered breed and eventually they became Tenterfield Terriers. But for over 50 years they had spread far and wide as are so, so many breeds, both recognised and ankc unrecognised. remember the pool of stumpy tailed cattle dogs that turned up at classification days when the ankc opened to studbook to upgrate to purebred when the breed had been reduce to only one registered breeder? a friend has been breeding wire haired, what he calls, Stumpy tailed Qld heelers for over 70 years. they tend to be larger and more heavily boned than ANKC standard ASTCD"s and definitely Wire haired.
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Is he the dog who had the beautiful red flowering gum planted and a plaque placed near the office at Dogs NSW? seen it so often but cant remember the name for sure?
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How to Tell if Puppy is From Reputable Ethical Breeder . ABC News 24/7/24
asal replied to Deeds's topic in In The News
thanks to the expectation/right to inspect the breeders home to decide if they are up to your expectations, also means dog thieves can come, check out where everything is and then come back and take what they like too. I took to refusing to let strangers come to my home anymore after puppies disappeared, in one case two were only 4 weeks old. the neighbour saw her coming down my drive when i was out shopping and asked her what are you doing? She was told she had gone to the house to ask to use the phone but no one was home. I arrived home to discover the puppies missing. Noreen said she was wearing a big lumber jacket so can only surmise they were inside it. all up had 4 stolen over a 2 year period, after we had to submit to inspection by all and sundry to prove your ethical... (and bloody stupid). two of the 4 were chipped so I did get them back when one was found wandering a highway, the other I recognised from a for sale add on Gumtree (the police had told me to keep checking gumtree) and called the police. no one needs that kind of stress. interestingly I did have the rspca rock up after meeting a person at KFC, the darling had reported I was living in the car with my dogs and were concerned. I found it very curious that the rspca rocked up at my home after giving my license plate to the police and demanding my address? (I know because I asked what was the complaint, then asked who gave you my address? That was early days 1990's when they answered questions) considering I was reported as living in my car? how did they expect to find me at a residential address????? I for one am heartily sick and tired for being treated as a criminal. Interestingly the witch hunts began in the 1980's, a little research discovered same time as PETA was founded. The dog world took up the cudgels to eliminate every backyard breeder and puppy farmer . Even then I queried to my backyard breeder haters. But hey? every one of you have what? Beyond your back door? Your calling for your own elimination? They just looked at me and hugged their self proclaimed "im ethical, I'm responsible" blanket to themselves and didn't believe me. Then made themselves busy, becoming the self styled (thought police as I came to think of them) dialling the rspca to report fellow members who they considered didn't march to "their" drum. Blissfully Ignorant other fellow members were dialling and dobbing them in for elimination. Beautiful example of destruction from within. Probably along the same lines as the Salem witch hunts so popular once. (history seems to love to repeat?) interestingly in 2000 a Victorian PETA representative went on air interview, stating "that the legislation's passed to date has been so successful we expect the extinction of the domestic dog and cat within this generation". mind her excitement was a little premature, the only ones on track to extinction are those bred by registered breeders. last year 70,000 ANKC puppies were registered of which on average 80% minimum are desexed and probably another 10 to 15 percent will be as well. Australia has approximately 6 million dogs which need an awful lot of replacements annually. that figure needed would be hundreds of thousands? they sure wont be coming from any of the registered breeders or registered puppy farms. they are coming from those who never chip and probably dont even vaccinate, if the number of unchipped puppies i have been asked to chip after their owner bought them that dont even have a vaccination card either? (even more curious, not one of these people would tell me who or where they bought them? "I dont want to get them into trouble." (Ah, the human mind is a lifelong study that's for sure) Backed up by the majority of unchipped dogs and puppies flooding the pounds. Their breeders are totally under any legal radar. Their breeders will ensure PETA will be disappointed in achieving their aims. paedophiles, rapists and murderers are innocent UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. a Registered dog breeder? GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT! although I think my favourite was the cherub, who asked me, After having paid for their darling puppy, been given all their paperwork, puppy food and instructions sheets and safely in their car for the obviously quick getaway, looked at me at me as if I were a prostitute (can only surmise that, considering what came next) then asked me. "how can you live with yourself, prostituting your fur child and selling your grand child?" Yep this is the new order now. WHAT IDIOT! would want to be a dog breeder today??????????????? -
Dying for sport: Abuse claims rock Australian greyhound racing
asal replied to DogsAndTheMob's topic in In The News
I too have seen first hand how much loved greyhounds are loved by both their breeders and owners. My daughter in laws family has them, a brother breeds and races his, they are trained to run to the catching pen for their favourite toy. As a result his dogs are not "chasing the mechanical hare" they are running for the catching pen and their toy. Result, in a race the hare malfunctioned one day and stopped, only one dog in the race field stopped at the" hare". all the other 9 were doing the same as Honey, racing to their toy. As a result although the owner of the dog that stopped tried to have it declared a "no race" it was refused and the placings declared. The winner? Honey by three lengths. 3 wins for 3 races. She then went to my daughter in laws sister and I couldn't count how many people after meeting Honey wanted to put their names down to adopt a greyhound she impressed them so with her loving gentle nature. Ah and her incredible zoomie's around the backyard playing with her toys. So many people got to meet her because after having some puppies stolen from me by people who had come to see mine when they were for sale, Maree offered to let me bring them to her place for potential buyers to meet as I had become too afraid to have people come to my home. almost every one who met Honey was so taken by her, decided if they get a second dog as a companion for their puppy, they want a greyhound too but hey that's not the kind of stories Emma Hurst wants made public
