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Yet so many are doing this now? https://www.doglistener.co.uk/shock-admission-rspca-and-labradoodle-breeders-neutering-puppies-six-weeks-old?fbclid=IwAR3329S5QyGn81_Hgk8TX9x4dbokz-r7wHWgI8d4cxlG-uU3KaCSsUPYcFE https://dogsfirst.ie/health-issues/dog-neutering/

many people prefer when they have a long weekend, holidays due or school holidays due so they can be home all day for as many days as possible to bond with and give the new puppy their full attention while its settling in and learning where everything is..n establish a routine before they have to go back to work if they work.. the lucky ones work at home or can take their dog with them... that doesn't seem to be on the radar in that original post?

none of them are, some people have deliberately tested their pedigree purebred and all came back as x breds. n some not even the breed they actually were came up in the mix list., but its a bit of fun if you take it in that light

I have sent a letter to the board on the subject, I've been a member since 1978 and I know from so many places I've seen over the decades I know many show people kept their dogs in this way " to keep them clean" Some people know no better because that is how their parents kept them and their grandparents in many instances. hence my suggesting instead of fluff pieces, address the elephant in the room..... there have been huge changes in the past 40 years, dont assume all are up to date. with knowing that housing is not acceptable...... Not excusing those crates. but notice there was no mention of being told they were not acceptable, no time to comply exceeded.... simply raided and taken, with two options to decide.... fight in the courts or sign them over.... iTS ABOUT TIME our registeries realise they have more to be addressed than simply maintain a register for purebred dogs. At this rate there will be so few left the gene pool will be verging on extinction within 10 years. Seems the ANKC'S in America are catching on. Instead of just breed profiles and breeders in our magazines.... ... show photos of WHAT is not acceptable and photos of what is expected. you cant assume such a person intended to be cruel. many dogs out west live their lives chained to a hollow log on anything from a 6 foot to a 12 foot chain when they aren't off for a run. Or working. one night I held inside my jacket, an unwanted working kelpie pup who was the undersized last of her litter and no one wanted her, I happened to visit just as her breeder was about to shoot her,, .....its tough out west. it was night, she was black and tan and it wasn't until we were halfway home to Sydney I realised I was burning up with itchiness....nearly went nuts by the time we were home and I could check her out in the lights.... she was riddled with fleas.... had been regularly wormed and already vaccinated but he obviously didn't know he had a flea explosion. I rang him and he thanked me ... country people do not intend to be cruel... the log she was raised in had been cut by his father 80 years before. it was an excellent temperature controlled place to snooze on a 100+ deg F day. the old timers weren't stupid.... Today His sons dogs sleep on his bed and muscle him out of his own bed, so times have changed there. But we should not assume all are aware how much times have changed...... As for the Masters of the stand-over for decades. I saw for myself in 1995, when they asked the Magistrate could they please see if they could settle out of court and told Marion they would drop the $7,000 they had asked the court for agistment costs, for the ten weeks they had held her ten Arabians if she signed them over... They too were taken the day the special constable came to inspect them.. I have no idea what was actually said when he arrived. Marion said he had been so insulting she had ordered him off her land, she said he told her "I will show you what I can do" . Pulled out his mobile, made a call and before I could get there when she called me to come and help her.... A ten horse truck had arrived and took ten of her 27 Arabians.... I had been helping her feed and water them since they had arrived in two trucks from a western property in deep drought. so all were distressingly thin. Her home had 14 acres of grass to their knees but so many would have made short work of it in days, so I helped her put out feed bins for every one of the 27 for their individual feeds as well as bathtubs kept full of hay for between feeds and bathtubs full of water. as well as the creek at the bottom. So they well and truly had both food and water. Ten weeks later she received a summons to attend court and I went with her, so what happened is not Hearsay... I was present. They told Marion they would find her horses good homes if she signed them over.... she asked them three times and each time she was assured they would find them good homes..... so she signed, then we went back to the magistrate, They asked him to "drop the $7,000 agistment costs, BUT I still want to charge her for failure to worm the horses". No mention of this had been made during the conference... the Magistrate, just like the adds running at the time said "Its a crime not to worm your" and he said "horses" instead of "dogs" as was in the add. The penalty being $7,000 with three months to pay. or face arrest and Jail ...... (except? they had been seized the day he arrived she had no opportunity to comply?) Marion was pretty much in shock from that point as she was spending every penny she had feeding the ones she still had to care for. I and a number of people rang every day after she signed them over, to be told every day that week, "they are not available for sale yet!" I rang again 9am Saturday morning and again received the same reply.. Annoyed I replied, "that's not true I was there when they were signed over on Tuesday!" I could almost feel the lady on the switch give a shurg and then said "I suppose it wont hurt to tell you, they went to McGrath's Hill sales this morning". I dropped the phone like a hot potato and rang everyone I knew would be willing to bid for them and took off as soon as I could. When I arrived they had not been sold yet..... shortly the first Mare was run into the ring, Little Raggy, (cant remember her registered name.) the tall Red haired special constable who had seized them and also had been present in the room when Marion had been assured they would be found good homes, strode into the ring. He addressed the auctioneer directly telling him "you are to only accept bids from the dogger's." turned on his heel and as he walked out added "and their all mad". I dispute that, I had helped Marion with all of them with no trouble from them which included loading and unloading them on my horse float to ensure they had good manners. They comprised three young colts, three fillies and four adult broodmares. The Crenel colt was sold to the Queensland dogger. all the rest were bought by Luddenham Knackery. when the Luddenham dogger began bidding I raced over to him and asked him to buy them for me and would be happy to pay whatever profit he wanted... he told me not to worry, he had had a phone call from Doug who couldn't make it.. (one of the people who I had called) so he bought tt the broodmares who had been first to the auctioned, then the Crenel Colt came in and before I could realise what was happening he was knocked down to the Queensland dogger...... I asked Doug's friend why didn't you bid? He said Doug only said to buy the mares, so I asked him to buy all the rest for me , which he did. The Qld dogger wouldn't resell no matter what I offered him... so he went on a semi from nsw to Qld to his death... by the time I had arranged transport and payment for all mine it was dark and despite many phone calls to Marion she never answered her phone. So I went to her home next morning to tell her all but one are safe. Except although I could hear her inside the house she would not answer the door nor speak to me. just kept sobbing . She never answered her phone in the following 3 months, the rspca never once came to check on the remaining 17, although by ten weeks they were actually all in significantly better condition than the ones I had bought at the auction....... So whenever I could I would drop by her place and try to get her to answer the door but she wouldn't, would just get hysterical and crying... finally one day I spotted her bringing groceries home from the shops so she couldn't run, it was awful, just stood and sobbed. Finally got out of her she had received a phone call that Saturday, She was told they had all been slaughtered for dog meat... She was a wreak, terrified of everyone, including me. Took me years before she would answer the door to me if she was home when I knocked. Always scared, always afraid to answer the door, she became a shadow of the confidant woman who had helped RM Williams organise and run the first Tom Quilty 100 Mile Endurance ride in 1966 onwards...... She is still alive but has never recovered, As for the Special constable, He is now CEO of RSPCA NSW....... "find them good homes?"..... Considering I had seen and heard all this in 1995, My personal breakdown after Stringy disappeared and the ensuing fiasco i in 1999 shows how stupid I was to think that could not happen to me, there is nothing wrong with my dogs, including Stringy..Just like you will when its your turn to learn The modus operandi has been in operation for decades now. AND they did prove me correct after all their tests came back negative.... pity it took them 13 days to learn that and I had to pay for every cent of the tests proving my vet knows his job and knew Blue gene alopecia on sight and theirs didn"t. Even more upsetting, he didn't come home the same happy healthy dog. once I had paid them, I had to race him to his own vet to learn why he was continually foaming at the mouth, he was so dehydrated on arrival he had to go on a drip and antibiotics for the pneumonia he now had and Richard found his trachea had been torn, the exudation from the tear causing the pneumonia. he believed an oversize tracheal tube had been too forceably inserted causing the tear. UMMM ..well? is this considered relevant in that the Modus Operandi is the same, or should I delete it?

good idea, but it will be deleted like the last one. Ill just delete what I put if you like? at least things have come a long way since 2000 say anything negative of em and you were frozen from posting and all u put deleted... people are beginning to realise maybe theres a whiff of truth to a percentage of the " I was wronged" who where character assassinated ... maybe another 18 will be needed for the royal commission

ummm interesting website... this page is talking about another busy money grabbing animal rescue site. Lots of interesting pages and links... OH and the frenchies rspca that were, rescued/seized/surrendered because her local council only allows 2 dog and 2 cats in WA... they were sold from 1800 to 2500.....although quite a few seem to have "disappeared" neither listed as sold/for sale or euthed.. just disappeared ? http://savingpets.com.au/blog/what-rescue-groups-are-saying-about-petrescue

I have this lady's permission to copy and paste her story....she had reported this person repeatadly to the "rescuers" of the bull Terriers who hit the headlines and finally here. appear to pick and choose who they "rescue" if these photos are any guide. "Anita B Have to laugh at the RSPCA carrying on about them living in 'filth'. Yes, the place looks like it could have done with a bloody good cleanup, but the dogs themselves looked to be in great condition and very clean. When I called them in to try to save some starving horses and help 17 dogs living in a house in absolute stomach turning filth the inspector told me they don't seize dogs over 'squalor' that they see that all the time. The owner showed them a few tins of Pal in the cupboard that she always kept for such occasions and had a few bowls of water out, so the skinny conditio of every single dog, the worminess, the ear infections meant nothing. Two border collies tied to verandah posts on 6' leads with an old bowl of water were totally ignored and a few of the horses were put on management orders, not one animal out of 27 taken. The inside of the house was so bad that a man shovelling out one of the rooms had to keep stopping to run outside and vomit. There was dog diarrhea and urine soaked rubbish up to a foot deep. no publicity either, RSPCA nabs drug addicted mentally ill hoarder doesn't bring in the donations quite like nasty puppy farmer with 110 dogs Dogs jumped in and out of this window all the time, this is acceptable housing. The dogs lived in here on rubbish, feces and broken glass from the window they’d smashed "

good advice, my dogs aren't staffyies but I make sure there is a 20 or 30 litre bucket tied so it cannot be overturned for drinking water but too narrow for the dog to jump in it and foul the water and for the summer I have cut down some of those big 250 litre drums cut about ten to inches max high as a personal swimming pool but the edges seem to be very attractive for chomping on as well so also get used as teething rings so dont be too shocked at the damage they cop.. also have an old fibre glass low (hip) bathtub...but they are useless as their water source as they can be really messed up from being jumped into and out of and even partly emptied just from the in and out taking the water with the fur...

I too like you, cant get my head around EVEN thinking I could attempt to look after 100 dogs.... but the thing is I dont find myself comfortable with the words being used. if that was ten dogs, the pictures are still of illegal housing,, yes it is illegal to keep any dog in a transport crate... that alone is enough to be charged... so why all the emotive language when even blind freddy has to admit to the majority of us "filth" is not torn up paper. it is feces,,, urine, mud, slush... that is torn up dry...DRY.....dry paper. paper turns to paper mache when you add any kind of fluid be it soft feces, urine or water....none of the three are discernible in any photos whatever...stains, dust yes they can be seen but be honest.. there is more shiny white paper than there is stains as for those pearly white feet and bodies... shut out the horror and amazement there are over 100 dogs...look at the photos.. the cages are illegal, the keeping them in them are illegal... the small bowls of water are inadequate no matter how often changed... all that is distressing enough that their owner couldnt see that for themselves surely? they needed help, they needed to know this is utterly unacceptable.... my understanding was if you break the law, be it fleas, unsuitable housing, underweight, injury, you have 14 days to either take immediately take to your vet, or comply or if not, seizure. For whatever reasons that didn't happen. one swoop all taken... win, win for the rspca already, so why the character assassination? You cant character assassinate the chap just charged with his wife's murder? You think I only lose it when the rspca are involved... The mere sight of Cardinal George Pell renders me sick to my stomach, long (decades) before the church awarded him the ultimate accolade for his betrayal of so many children whose lives have been irrevocably destroyed.. to me he should rot in jail for life to perverting the course of justice....but....I like those who the churches should have defended, take a slow breath and remember to take the next one and dont throw up... when stringy disappeared and every one of my frantic efforts to save him proved utterly futile..... I realised I know this utterly helpless feeling from somewhere before? Those children who begged Pell for help, know that feeling... that's why 70% of them were not there to represent themselves at the Royal Commission... 70% of them kill themselves before they get to see their 30th Birthday.... He, same as that accused murderer, believe it or not , is innocent until proven guilty? again, as Professer Sumner Miller would ask us,,, why is this so? stick to facts not embroider what your own dog would do to a sheet of newspaper in seconds flat......and get you slandered over the sudden onset of "FILTH"

had another look at the link "thistle the best dog" put up and actually not one single dog has anything but their toenails on their feet?? perhaps "filth" is the new word for torn up paper? remember Noddy's books are banned these days because in the 70's it wasn't offensive to "be feeling a little gay".. used to read the Noddy stories to my little brother... had him and Mr Plod puppets....so words certainly and their meanings do morph notice how pearly white the puppies in that "filthy" tubs toes and feet are??? Put it on BIG SCREEN .. every single one in every single shot, puppies and adults have clean feet.........

Not sure where, it was in a press release I read last week, but no idea where to re find it. Yes, its very unfortunate the poster didn't double and triple check. but did say all the rest is correct and apologised for the mistakes they didn't triple check

I suspect you have no idea yet of the new operating conditions they have decided on, no more tendering to run council pounds, they will no longer renewing the leases and the council will have to run them themselves or find others to do so... BUT they will handpick the most saleable from the pounds and take them so that way those killed by the pounds wont be going on their books as having been put down by rspca.

found 3 https://www.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt/search?animalType=3&shelter=18&breed=88&gender=&name=&age=0&advanceBody=false and more at brisbane https://www.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt/search?animalType=3&shelter=75&breed=88&gender=&name=&age=0&advanceBody=false

Just appeared on Faceplant.. further to the first ones I copied and pasted. " D B You will all no doubt remember my post the other day where l said "here's the real facts".I have to fess up that l got some of it wrong. You would no doubt realise there is a lot of outrage and confusion following an extraordinary event like the Bull Terrier debacle. With many true statements interwoven with supposition. I will now state that I stand by 70% of what l stated in that post as being true. I can now say ...a) the owner did not ring the rspca asking for help - it was a full on raid which they'd been planning for some time, b) she did not have the dogs ready for evacuation due to the fire, the dogs were never in any danger from the fire. The rspca has now issued a statement to "dispel the rumors", which pretty much addresses each point raised in my post, in exactly the same order as my post. My post has now gone viral and it's unfortunate that it was not 100% accurate, but now that l know much more about how it all went down let me just say that only a couple of points were blatantly wrong, as mentioned above. The lady's vet was interviewed by the rspca yesterday, no joy for them there. Neighbour's are saying ALL the dogs were always spotless, and exercised every day, multiple times per day. Due to upcoming action l cannot disclose too much more but will endeavor to update you in coming weeks."

certainly learning to walk fast, as I recall, in the earlier press release most of the dogs didn't know how to walk when let out of the cages? unsocalised, traumatised? forget the rest of the reasons they need funds to rehabilitate them, Well the expected $60,000 for the 40 puppies will help (a little) towards expenses surely? BULL TERRIERS UPDATE BULL TERRIERS UPDATE Dogs from the recent Bull Terrier raid have started to slowly make their way to adoptions at our Brisbane, Wacol and Noosa campuses where they are very quickly finding loving forever homes. Once available you will be able to see them online atwww.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt. This website is automatically updated on availability status within 30-45 minutes of the change taking place. There will be no holds or interested parties taken for these dogs. Interstate dog adoptions may be available on a case-by-case basis. As more of the dogs get ready for their forever homes we will update you with any other RSPCA adoption locations across Queensland. Please be patient with our teams as we manage this interest. Adult dogs will be $500 to adopt and young puppies will be $1,500. All dogs will be desexed, microchipped, vaccinated and up-to-date with their worming just like all of our pets. If you’re interested in making an ongoing commitment to volunteer or foster some of our pets in need you can apply online atwww.rspcaqld.org.au/volunteer orwww.rspcaqld.org.au/foster. Thank you in advance for your understanding and patience.

depends on how she matures, if she cant control her body temp in hot days you will lose her. my niece has a french bulldog, cute as paint but when they let him out for a toilet run during the summer if its midday he can seriously overheat in minutes once outside and minus his air conditioning.. have to play it by ear and see how she matures

I agree with all but one very important point you make..... " (from looking at the condition of some of the dogs, I'd say there were certainly some serious welfare concerns)" that was not correct, every single dog was not only in good condition without exception all were over optimum body weight... one dog and one dog only had a sore face. what no one has mentioned, and it did happen.. despite the fact they could easily have simply loaded the dogs in those crates into the vehicles and horse floats they removed them in, they chose not too. they put the dogs loose in the horse floats... because of this lapse of judgement two of the dogs with no health issues before they left the property, had the be put down due the the extent of their injuries due to being mauled by the other dogs they were put in with loose. Hello folks, bull terriers too can the pretty aggressive to each other, they too were a fighting breed during their formation...... That is pure negligence, same as the Waterways koala deaths in their custody. ... even if they didn't want to keep her transport crates, and that's what they were in those sheds there was nothing to stop them using them and returned when they came for the next batch as stated in their own press release? I noticed the rspca made no mention of the two deaths, in any of their press releases..

Been campaigning for transparency AND avenue of appeal SINCE 1995 after what happened to my friend Marion Alcorn and her ten Arabian's, what then happened to Stringy was so shocking, afraid it broke me badly, yet i already knew after what happened to Marion and her horses, human welfare is zero and animal welfare is not on their agenda, yet maybe I still believed what happened to her and her four mares, three colts and three fillies was a one off. Well until I learned no one is safe.. as for even a hint of at least an avenue of appeal,..................... so far, ZILCH! i AND SO many others thought after the Waterways enquiry and the deaths of the two Koala's, particularly in light of Leon Mills beautifully written submission by an ex Public Prosecutor would have achieved something... but no, utterly ignored.

Hey I had no idea there was anyone in Sydney who will debark a dog these days? is there or are they like the unicorn extinct? I know two dogs that will be put down and their owners are distraught beyond words...... they must be either debarked or euthanaised and neither can find a vet who will even discuss it . They rang me for help as I chipped both their dogs for them, but they dont realise I chip dogs not debark them..... pity the chips cant come with a volume control perhaps?

excellent rebuttal. urine soaked flooring means all that fluffy paper would not be dry shredded...it would be liquid mush? But hey what would I know... dry urine perhaps? no mention that it is fact that they only kept 40 to sell and are available now.....the puppies they do automatically, vaccinate, flea and worm all dogs, that was on Stringlys bill too, even though he had only been vaccinated the week before they stole him that day and flea and heartworm treated 24 hours before .... how the double dosage so close together of a 1.2 kg bit of nothing, didn't kill him was another miracle. (yes I have anger management issues. so would you if it happened to your dog and you were told what happened is YOUR fault). all the adults have been given to the bull terrier rescue , and no money given to them to pay for their desexing which is one of the condition that must be met before they can rehome them and or retrained if does need to be done, certainly nothing for the adults will be paid for by the rspca...

I noticed the same thing, and the fact that despite the words "filth" the only filth to be seen was shredded paper and we all know how many doo's a dog that size does in a day... not one in sight....that's when I began to wonder..... obviously these dogs are so well trained to wait to be let out for a run, not one had made a mess in its cage??????? or someones working full time pooper scoopering????? there's a story here we are not being told.... only took a week to come to light...remarkable it did though..

nothing like trial by media is there... another post people are asking to be shared..... sorry have to copy and paste..... ...So several days ago the RSPCA gained around 110 Bull Terriers from a breeder. What we do know so far is: The RSPCA said they were seized, owner said she called and asked for help to move them due to bushfires The RSPCA contacted every media outlet and told them how bad the conditions were and how the dogs were in terrible condition. The RSPCA when called by consumers not 24hrs later said that the dogs would be for sale at around $1800 each for puppies. The RSPCA kept all the puppies and younger dogs and now (not more that 4 days later) have them up for sale. The older (ie ones they can’t sell) were given to Bull Terrier rescue UNDESEXED and with no support for vets bills/care offered. The RSPCA is now calling for donations to pay for the vet bills (what bills?) for the dogs they are SELLING What other organization has the power to take your property and then 4 days later sell it and still be able to cry poor??? Time that the RSPCA was stripped of it’s power by the Government. To the ANKC – Please set up a fund to help breeders. Make sure if they do need help they can call their Canine Association first and know they will get support. Don’t let ANY ANKC breeder get to the point where they have to ask the RSPCA for help. I am happy to make the first donation.