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Well it is day 4 and heatwave in full swing for the rest of this week. Hope puppy is safe finally
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particularly interesting article. especially the "there's something called trigger stacking." It is now only beginning to be recognised as a possible cause in horses as well. Found some .. had never heard of it before. https://equimed.com/health-centers/behavior/articles/my-horse-is-acting-out-is-he-stressed http://felicitygeorge.blogspot.com/2014/01/trigger-stacking-and-horses-is-your.html Still rarely recognised problem for people .
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this video I think belongs here really even though it is from a slaughter that took place in 2007.... still happens as the owners of the murray greys discovered, as did a friend in Victoria who came home from shopping to their stud fresien's to find all but the last three dead, then shot in front of them, they were dairy cattle, but also stud and show winners and their descendants. including Melbourne Royal champion winner. https://www.theland.com.au/story/5326636/dairy-strength-in-jersey-reckons-sydney-royal-judge/?fbclid=IwAR3EJqjyMB32U_pe2ruLVeRo-WfB2VynJxi57eAGeGYSlRXlEDD_TwkFx0U Compare the Sydney royal Champion for 2018 above and I think you will agree, she too would have been shot by this idiot... doesn't know a dairy cow from a beef breed same as the killer of the stud Friesian's in Victoria.. https://www.holstein.com.au/static/uploads/files/holstein-j-2017-6-for-web-wfqyrhfmgtue.pdf o my gosh everything in this article on champions would get the bullet at Ruths, particularly those on page 26 and 27 but doubt many if any, would be spared by Ashton... those jutting tail vertebrae would have spelt the end for Fairvale Reg Josie 34th....ditto for Fairvale AJ Nola 28th's cavernous ribs and hips...........page 27... Page 26........... Fairvale Gold Chip Butter 291st, 2 yr old Champion, sold for $9500 it says?
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I will, gee have you seen this? disgusting, one flea hatch when the humid weather kicks in and if its happened before the next flea application and your instant fine, revenue raising at its best. https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/rspca-wants-power-to-issue-fines/news-story/3bb47fa63bc6cf13db5d0fe97f8791f3?fbclid=IwAR1ptzzl3JvWqD6xHMgX9Ybrfmavraf2DtlauBMlhoIuQGFJ_Sqa7utVpVM received another link today 10/1/2019 overseas but interesting. https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2019/01/08/court-ruling-means-ontario-must-find-a-new-way-to-enforce-animal-cruelty-laws.html?fbclid=IwAR2UnRmuQkMQoR0L1eFHP3n9TwS7c9fw51QVxbgugkSEGaeJ_jdhFNfOKRg
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gee more links people keep sending me https://m.news-mail.com.au/news/letters-rspca-ads-warm-and-fuzzy-but-wrong/3181171/?fbclid=IwAR3I8TX7hiRlnjro2WxO8MvDP9QwWO6oFXbwsMmgkunzPk2o-gUMMJCRdjI this ones re england but australia is the same over run by the same inside https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2017/06/whats-wrong-with-rspca.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR3ia5ym_takowpZQ2NboT171u1RmeK4IHsjer1O1PxzIeJg6CIFgHhjkaA this one has amazing similarities even if the subject is CPS in Texas
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Had the same crash too but missed hitting the tree, overfat bareback shettie decided to take off n dump me at the gallop, gravel rash from hairline, cheek , shoulder to toes. put me off shetties for a long time. the good thing about Jody was he never dumped you until you asked him to stop, then he sure did stop....DEAD.. with his head between his legs and a little hop to make sure you went down the suddenly provided slippery dip... no flying off the shoulder to crash, just a nice slide down the slippery slope, and he would look ever so innocent. the last time he tried it on me even his bridle came off with me. I had definitely felt the hop sending me over the last inch of wither and realised I had been set up and hit the roof, yelling at him in fury at all the times I had come off thinking it was my fault. got up and hit him on the chest and told him "do that again and I will murder you". think he got the message and sort of looked startled and stepped back, thats when I noticed he had no bridle and it was at my feet. then he backed up a bit further and started to trot across the road to get away from the furious human and I realised with horror he was heading for busy Marion Road.... so quickly changed my voice tone to the happy one I use when I'm calling him to come in from being lunged.... the silly idiot looked pretty confused..... looking back at me, then suddenly decided ... gee shes forgiven me... goodies,,, cant miss my goodies and swung round to came expectantly back to me. so had to slap on a grin and give him cuddles and scratchies for being a good boy and not running in front of a car or truck... that's the day I learned its not what you are thinking they read, its your tone of voice. next time he tried stopping dead ... I growled, walk on or else your dog meat and guess who walked on? never dropped me again. taught him walk, trot, n canter on the lunge on saying the word, so even if someone else was riding him I could tell him what gait to do and they had no control over what he was doing :-)
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Love the story... wonderful story writer sums dog and cat relations up so often too, my Yeti would walk in front of my sons dog swishing her tail in his face as if to see his reaction, nearly had a heart attack the day I found her flat on her back letting the dogs wash her though... at first sight I thought they were eating her, she was so lazy she was happy to let them do the washing for her instead. She was a rag doll, old age caught up with her at 18 still miss her so, tempted to get another but worry I would be hoping for the new one to be another Yeti and they are all individuals so keep putting it off
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..this lady has what the rspca once had, but has totaly lost, compassion and teach, instead of just money making such an amazing woman https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5373849/Dorothy-Brooke-spent-life-saving-Britains-war-horses.html?fbclid=IwAR3A-Hm1ZovyrEKK_1yqbp18Vup5x5LPiKWimSS_1n0U-Q6XVIULR-gwoLM more links people keep sending me https://m.news-mail.com.au/news/letters-rspca-ads-warm-and-fuzzy-but-wrong/3181171/?fbclid=IwAR3I8TX7hiRlnjro2WxO8MvDP9QwWO6oFXbwsMmgkunzPk2o-gUMMJCRdjI this ones re england but australia is the same over run by the same inside https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2017/06/whats-wrong-with-rspca.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR3ia5ym_takowpZQ2NboT171u1RmeK4IHsjer1O1PxzIeJg6CIFgHhjkaA
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o my gosh 6 is priceless,,, they spent 7 million fighting the owners of the Stud Murray grey cattle and lost.... still haven't paid the damages awarded which would be a fraction of what they are still fighting it on appeal or maybe its been lost too now? but either way still haven't paid a cent of the damages awarded. https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/SCEI/RSPCA/Submissions/Submission_69-Dr_Stephen_Tate.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1ApZ0UBl-k_Yqq0tYS_qWfCh_1LRp47joWc4dCyK5PDJUBkBPs8ViXxkQ
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interesting take on the event.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155644968965216&set=a.10150899063165216&type=3&theater
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Incredible https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/opinion/lack-of-representation-deters-rspca-members/news-story/e1dce546ae51a3649687aef19291df8c?fbclid=IwAR0-D51-kthj4WcEuIO_bSiz9D_L_KH760v-LUPHgQ6xw5yiYTdqmYEFiQo surely the 157 can at least vote at the agm and change who is voted onto the board with real people representing real animals instead of themselves? n peta? wonder how many members, rspca nsw and the other states actually have? I know in 2000 a lady I knew was a member received a letter from a member of the then board begging her to get her family and friends to join and vote at eh upcoming agm to maintain the present board as the membership was believed to being actively stacked by peta supporters. considering attitude and policies in place now the stacking looks to have been successful. if pet owners really want real representation they better get off their butts and join and vote in pet owners and breeders instead of peta reps. I think it would take three agm's at least to clean out the present lot as only a percentage step down per year i believe. which is the norm in most societies. wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't brought in the members cant even vote for who sits on the board by now, I know one the clauses is they can refuse or cancel your membership with no explanation; I remember when the Telegraph ran a story naming the new chairman of Dogs NSW and the new committee.... he had been a member of the rspca for a decade or more and on many committees.... he received his notification of cancellation of his membership that week and refund cheque, ditto for another member of the board also. so now they advise government about laws that affect owners and breeders and I suspect none of them even have a pet let alone breed? Did you know they have in the POCTA that you MUST weigh and write down weekly a litters weights? my vets totally cracked up, why? Because as they said if your so stupid you have to wait for the weekly weigh in to ascertain if a pups not thriving it will probably be dead anyway before that.... but folks the laws the law even if its stupid! written by stupidity obviously. Why do I think my vets comments are very relevant? Because. He was RSPCA Victoria's head vet before Hugh Worth. When Stringy was stolen he rang every day to demand his return that nothing was wrong with him, but they chose to ignore him. When he was finally returned 13 days later and I took him straight to Richard, he was suffering pneumonia and so dehydrated he needed to go on a drip, he examined the itemised bill they had given me and he said Stringy had suffered a minimum of 21 needle insertions, torn trachea, been vaccinated despite the fact the only only been given his booster shot 4 weeks before was taken, wormed and flea treated two days before he was taken, yet he was wormed and flea treated as well, the double dosages could have killed him and he wanted me to sue them for aggravated cruelty, when I said we haven't a hope, his reply was I have never lost a case when I was their head vet. From what I had seen when Marion at been in court the magistrate believed every word they said and nothing Marion said, so i figured as a now private practicing vet they would take no notice of Richard, just as had happened when he demanded his return so didn't go ahead, something he still hasn't forgiven me for.
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apparently under FOI this document is available for sharing
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interesting statistics comments attached to it. "They have the audacity to say cruelty is such a big problem. These are the national figures, remembering that possibly a third to a half of these are vexatious prosecutions. I'm beginning to understand why they do vexatious prosecutions, with 100 Inspectors throughout Australia that's only 3 prosecutions per Inspector per year. Pretty indicative that cruelty is not the enormous problem they make it out to be and explains why they are always trying to push those prosecution statistics up - to justify their existence." " Succinctly put . Also, if u take their state figures on 'complaints' seriously, they'd have u believing that the inspectors were following up anywhere from 3-8 complaints per day (365 days) on top of their already allegedly busy 'workload'. That might explain why they're somehow always too busy to deal with starving horses all over the country."
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Thanks but your not a doctor. my doc on the other hand thinks rspca inspectors tend to fit the spectrum of narcissistic sociopaths. He sent me this to enjoy this morning.... yes I told him your diagnosis...he suggested I forward for you to enjoy too....
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some suspect now that the Crime and Corruption Commission seems to be corrupt too? " Last week, the Minister told the journo John Flint (but not Adele), who has followed this case from the beginning .. "if Ms Culverwell was to return to court to have her conviction overturned, we will return the dog to her". The Minister said this knowing full well that 4 years of fighting this gross injustice has stripped Adele of every assett she has, she doesn't even have a car now. This statement from the new (Labor) Minister comes after Adele was told 12 months ago by DAFWA that they would a) get Roxy back and return her to Adele, b) overturn her conviction, c) organize some compensation for her. None of these things happened and Roxy was sent to SA by Inspector in defiance of a Court Order. A secret deal was struck between the rspca and the Minister resulting in the rspca's pro bono lawyer applying to the Solicitor General for "a waiver for Swift's behaviour". Documents obtained through FOI show that the Minister asked for this to be kept confidential to avoid further action from Ms Culverwell. So approximately 6 months ago, a *waiver* was granted to Inspector Swift for her illegal behaviour ie defying a Court Order, and the Minister closed the file. Adele was never advised of this and only found out about it through FOI. This case has now been submitted to, and accepted by the Crime and Corruption Commission. " " Update : after months of work by Adele preparing documents the case was rejected by the Crime and Corruption Commission. " https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/the-battle-for-roxy-years-of-warring-over-dogs-fate-ng-bec2777e65779af8814dc0cf79d3aec0
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Body composition faults/ An alternative to a Vet, please!!!
asal replied to a topic in General Dog Discussion
no idea where to find it but a chap in america took two litters of labs from known high hip displacia lines... divided each litter so half the siblings were raised typical ie good body score. the other half were raised lean body score and both groups kept as they were raised. the incidence of hip displacia in the typical group was the expected percentage the incidence of hip displacia in the lean group was well below half the expected percentage. then as they aged the differences became even more apparent... the typical group developed arthritis and the usual ageing and associated problems. the lean group did not develop arthritis at the same ages and did not develop the same problems until much older, the mean average being 4 years later and also lived 4 years and more longer than the mean average of their typical siblings... there was widespread comments in the press once his findings were released... but not sure where or how to find it as it was a few years ago now it was published long before that I had noticed the father of my horse died quite young suddenly from heart attack, he was a showhorse and always kept obese... I decided my boy was such a great companion I wanted him to live as long as possible and my vet even then 40 years ago was advocating lean was best... so he was always kept lean and in work. he lived to 28 as have most of my horses and more, my daughters pony was a welsh mountain and they run to fat so fast its scary so keeping her fit and on the lean side was a challange but she saw her 36th Birthday and was still active although on arthritis prevention for the last 4 years.. finally developed it in her knees and began to have difficulty getting back up without assistance and the fear became very great if she decided to have a nap when no one was home she could no longer get back up without help, which was fine during autumn and winter but the risk of being cast in the summer if we went out anywhere during the day with no one home became a constant worry, then my husband put his back out helping her back up and so did I.. until we began dreading when she decided to have a nap lying down and then to help her back up because we were breaking down too............the heartbreaking decision was made. Although when the vet came she was not her usual vet and wondered why she was being put down because she was so bright and active.... it was the act of getting back up unaided, that she had finally lost we had to explain to her..... tough enough to have to make the decision...even tougher when the vet thinks she is fine and have to explain appearances can be deceiving and we soo didn't want to lose her when she was so happy either.... my other pony is 34 and still very active and not a hint of arthritis, she is still being ridden and loves her outings. so it applies equally to horses as dogs. -
ummm no win from any angle for this poor horse... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155629269635216&set=gm.217846632424076&type=3&theater
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Just in case you forgot which one I referred too....
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let you in on a little secret.... your as OT obsessed as a food obsessed, resource guarding dog! (some people seem to acquire the worst habits of their pets instead of and/or along with the best?) FINE FOR you to go off topic and make a joke about Azaria reread your last obsessive, I did NOT in any way or form give either a hint or a mention of what you just ranted about, it's all in your little over-obsessed mind this time
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unfortunately asthma is also inherited too, killed my grandfather and he had dogs, cats,chooks, parrots and Horses as a child and so did his kids..so I grew up in almost a zoo.... mine were brought up with all the above, goats sheep and cattle as well.... still developed asthma... perhaps not as bad maybe.. would have to wonder how bad it may have been without all the early exposure.....but sure didn't prevent it .. but asthma should never be taken lightly.... it can be dormant for a year or even years and wham....cant breathe and gone, if someone isn't handy with whats needed if your suddenly out to it. always carry your medication......
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since bigD seems to have disappeared, talking about how our govt has handed the "care" of our native area's over to uni deg know nothing greenies if our local one is any instance, instead of indigenous people who actually do know how to keep the bush safe from the red steer, compared to past management practice is fair game. the mess the raaf base is in now is a disgrace... thanks to the wildfire all the parrot breeding trees were destroyed so four species breeding freely before are gone, all noted she didn't bother to apply for breeding boxes be introduced to replace what was lost. The previous management of the Frazer Island dingo's meant they were not starving like they are now and if the tourists are allowed to go there and they are part of the attractions, then you cant have it both ways. heard a greenie story decades ago, the one where there had been a demonstration in a forest and a greenie climbed a tree, at some stage getting back down acquired a number of splinters in an intimate area. Presenting at the local doctor to get them removed, to be told, "Sorry, It is against my principles, I cant remove native timber from a recreation area."
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once or twice a year, max four, your sure drawing a long bow but hey....love how fast people make assumptions, few of them good. so being burned alive or mown down on the roads looking for feed because the half wit greenie, didn't do zilch about wildfires and you whinge about four sandwich crusts shared between 7 wallabies?
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I hope this link works, the world was horrified when australia allowed the mass shootings of the Guy Fawkes brumbies. It was promised would never happen again. now they have just decimated the Singleton welsh brumbies from the air...... if you gut, rump, neck shot any animial from above you would be in court..... but no animal welfare is doing or saying anything let alone charging them with aggravated cruelty? we had 22,000 dog owners scream blue murder when our Minister for Agriculture tried to slip through changes to the POCTA in December 2017 which would if the minister had signed it... you couldn't have even given away a baby mouse without having "to hold at least a Certificate II in Animal Studies and Comply with ongoing training including those who assist in feeding/watering etc?" If he had sneaked his signature to the "amendment" none of them can be trusted..... Yet parliament closed without even discussing let alone approving this mass slaughter......it was done now during the break in parliament. The excuse was unexploded bombs made it too dangerous to muster or shoot them from the ground....yet the locals watched them drive in the trucks and drag out the bodies and no vehicle's blew up? next target are the snowy mountain brumbies , many of our kids at pony club have snowy mountain brumbies,. my vet has two snowy mountain brumbies, rescues from the mob they sent to the dogger sales... they make great kids mounts. I hope this link works... https://www.change.org/p/the-honourable-the-speaker-of-the-house-of-representatives-to-stop-the-brumby-cull-at-singleton-army-base-nsw?recruiter=16448581&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial.pacific_email_copy_en_us_3.control.pacific_email_copy_en_gb_4.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_5.v1.pacific_post_sap_share_gmail_abi.gmail_abi.lightning_2primary_share_options_more.variant&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial.pacific_email_copy_en_gb_4.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_5.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_3.control.pacific_post_sap_share_gmail_abi.gmail_abi.lightning_2primary_share_options_more.variant&utm_content=mit-14056417-1%3Av2&fbclid=IwAR1xQBqJUtEgGympj7qO7ggbQrodKXYG7cb1dyd4X8oaE_SQKxUBmn4Lzw0