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BE almost a movie plot if it was not so tragic. Melanie Coe shared a post. RSPCA V BORDER COLLIES, THE FACTS The RSPCA did an inspection on a breeding facility in mid-2018, finding minor compliance issues, shortly after that visit, several dogs became sick, so the animals were put into quarantine, resulting In a sharp rise in adult dogs, as puppies aged beyond 3 months. October 2018; The RSPCA then raided the same facilities, sighting behavioural issues with “most of the animals” as they were shy and not coming forward to inspectors. No physical faults were mentioned, only mental health concerns. (several videos of those assessments are now available on line) They seized 10 adults’ dogs, 5 puppies new born (2 weeks) with most being pregnant bitches. November 2018; The RSPCA wrote to the owner, asking for animals to be signed over to avoid further costs, which were already at $3,800, sighting the dogs are better off to be put down. December 2018; A report was completed in early December 2018, by RSPCA (ex-staff) new behaviorists, and charges readied based on the mental health issues assessed by the RSPCA. At the same time those assessments were being drafted, the owner’s lawyers received an application from the RSPCA to kill those dogs and puppies seized, by now several seized animals had given birth to puppies. The RSPCA also sought a massive $53,000 in costs for the upkeep of the animals over the first 10/11 weeks. January 2018; The RSPCA issued court orders to both seize all the animals left at the facilities and to kill those in their care. Upon receipt of the demand to kill all the animals, the owners sent in their local veterinarians to inspect the animals in the RSPCA care, his report was that the animals in the RSPCA were heathy and should not be killed. The owners contacted Mark Aldridge, to see if he could help save the animals from being killed, supplying him with photos of the animals, legal documents, their compliance’s ect. Mark then arranged further independent assessments of the animals in a move to save them from being killed by the RSPCA. Also making enquires with the local council to ensure compliance. INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENTS CONTINUED 18th of January an independent combined report (Top local SA vet & local experienced Behaviourist.) CONCLUSION: 1. The current environment the dogs are in is detrimental to their health 2. Returning the dogs to their owner or allowing them to be rehomed will improve their wellbeing 3. None of the dog or pups inspected showed any sign of aggression, they were timid and shy, but this could be part due to their current environment 4. No reason was found to have the adult dogs or pups killed. Notes from that report also stated: a) From the notes........ I read on the front of the kennels, there has been no appropriate handling of these animals, in my opinion the dog are now much worse situation than the facilities they were taken from having view both. b) In my opinion the RSPCA need to assess their own housing arrangements, because storing dogs on death row is unacceptable. c) I have seen the initial report completed for the RSPCA by XXXXXX, and it would be an interesting read if the same report was prepared in the facilities, they are now in. THE RSPCA FACILITIES; Mark Aldridge also was able to view the RSPCA facilities, noting they were not to current regulation and totally unacceptable for anything but very short-term care. The Independent experts also noted the facilities were not suitable for long term care, quoting that the animals were in much better facilities before seizure. The CEO of the RSPCA noted the same in 2018, stating “The problem is Lonsdale is too old now”. We cannot offer best practice animal care, and that, “At the end of the day, Pets are just so much better off, out in the community (CEO Paul Stevenson). Mark after receiving the initial independent report and the two latest ones, wrote to the minister to investigate the matter, as it was 3 reports the dogs were fine to 1 report they were not. Advocating for the animals to be released into independent care, and from there to be rehomed, with the support of the experts and the owners. Mark met with the Animal advisory committee on the recommendation of the Minister, and advocated for various changes, which were well received. The courts regardless of the many reports in favour of releasing the animals, found in favour of signing them over to the RSPCA to do with them as they pleased, which was still to kill the border collies. Mark then arranged further legal support to appeal that decision, to buy time for the animals, with a fabulous offer from a caring Barrister who was obviously an animal lover. On the 7th of February Oscars law, opposed Marks work, and set to target Mark and those professionals helping him, citing they were supporters of puppy farms and posting incorrect photo and naming people not involved. (Oscars law work very closely with the RSPCA) 8th February 2019; The RSPCA’s response was to create a SECOND report to address that appeal. Shortly after 3 independent reports were produced, showing in each case the animals could be rehomed, the RSPCA arranged the second report by the same people that wrote their first one, it was produced on 24/2/19. The local council were also receiving pressure from Oscars law to close the facility, final inspections cleared the facility as being compliant That report again, recommended each, and every adult Border Collie was killed, asap. Interesting the report showed the animals in most cases were worse than the condition when first seized. Same diagnosis but with addition potential for fear aggression” was quoted in the report. A couple of the animals were supposedly better, but still “Humane euthanasia as soon as possible” was applied to every animal in this report. In the RSPCA reports and court applications, Mark noticed they both wanted to seize all the animals at the facility and or have the courts demand the owners hand them over and that a majority of around 75% of the animals at the registered breeding facility were as damaged mentally as the ones seized. “The first report stated that the RSPCA would have seized more but did not have the ability on the day, and that “humane euthanasia of most of the animals may be the best option” Mark Aldridge then worked with the Breeder to safe guard the many other animals yet to be seized, which resulted in the owner handing the animals over to him, so he could ensure they were taken in by the best no kill facilities he could find. No applications by Mark went beyond trying to save the first 10 dogs seized and their pups and to ensure the safety of the remaining animals. The owner agreed, so a total of around 80 dogs and pups were released to several top Australian shelters. The Supreme court appeal failed, meaning the seized Border Collies were now owned by the state, in the control of the RSPCA who still wanted to kill them all. The RSPCA then became aware that the rest of the animals earmarked by their behaviorists to be seized and possibly killed, had been moved out of the breeding facilities. One of the shelters who took on an amazing 37 dogs, started a petition to demand the RSPCA release the remaining dogs to them, seeing as it was beyond the RSPCA’s abilities to both house the animals adequately and rehabilitate them. Attracting near 100,000 signatures Videos of the RSPCA assessments and some documentation was leaked onto the net, creating a major issue for the RSPCA, as experts from all over Australia were appalled at their assessment strategy, so they then produced media releases which were taken up word for word by many media outlets. Making matters worse for the RSPCA, is that all the independent self-funded shelters were having great success with all the animals they had saved from their grip. Producing photos and videos clearly showing the animals were indeed mentally stable and rehomable. This resulted in the RSPCA again publishing their position and refusing to back down in respect of killing the animals in their facilities, eventually deciding to announce they had only killed 4, which undermined all their court applications and their behaviorists reports. The Rspca media reports quoted a variety of made up facts, and used irrelevant photos, quoted an owner who was not and animal numbers their own legal documents undermined, there was never 300. News also became evident that the RSPCA had on-sold the many puppies born in their facilities by the dogs seized, on-selling them for $850 each, a total of up to 27 puppies, some of which the original reports had also labelled mentally damaged. Regardless of any facts, all that matters are the innocent voiceless animals, all those that the RSPCA did not seize are now safe and loving their new homes. Let’s hope there are many lessons to be learned, how regulated breeders operate, lowering how many animals are allowed at a regulated facility, better investment in social services for all animals and improved facilities and networks to ensure the safety of any animals seized under the legislation. And with out any doubt, changes to the assessment regimes that labelled re-homable animals as only worthy of death.

Wish foundation haven't given up yet https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/animals/wa-bid-to-save-death-row-sa-dogs-goes-viral-ng-b881157368z?utm_campaign=share-icons&fbclid=IwAR0KRujBm_ITyuqgjOufE5cLeI6_JWoBc-A4GftUZdQCgkYNx6s1WAxxbxg WA bid to save death-row SA border collies goes viral John FlintPerthNow April 7, 2019 10:00AM TOPICS WA News A Perth animal rescue group’s bid to save six border collies from “death row” in South Australia has generated more than 82,700 signatures on a petition. WISH Animal Rescue Team volunteers have already done one five-day road trip across the Nullarbor to bring back 37 dogs they feared were earmarked for euthanasia. And it is begging the RSPCA to let it have six border collie “mums” the organisation claimed were too traumatised to be rehomed. WISH founder and president Kylie Wishart has even offered the South Australian RSPCA $1000 for each of the dogs in a bid to save them. The group’s petition has gone viral. The six dogs were among 10 adult border collies seized from a breeding facility at Lameroo, 200km from Adelaide, on October 23 last year. Five dependent puppies were also taken and 18 have been born since. The RSPCA claimed it found almost 300 dogs at the property, far exceeding “the breeders’ council-issued licence permitting a maximum of 100 dogs”. The rescued dogs playing. The 10 seized border collies were considered “to be in the worst condition, exhibiting the most chronic behavioural issues and mental suffering”. Four of them were put down this week to the dismay of WISH and other rescue organisations that had offered to take and rehabilitate them. “Despite all of the rehabilitation measures, these four dogs continued to show deeply entrenched signs of chronic fear and potentially dangerous unpredictability,” the RSPCA said in a statement on Wednesday. “As a responsible rehoming organisation, we simply cannot and will not release animals to the community that pose a significant risk to public safety. “RSPCA staff continue to look after the six remaining adult dogs as part of ongoing efforts to rehabilitate them.” Ms Wishart fears the six will be put down. She said the 37 dogs taken from the breeder’s property were all adjusting very well in their new surroundings with her group’s network of foster carers across Perth. “Out of the 37 dogs, not one has bit yet,” she said. “We’re halfway through our vet work and all our vets are falling in love with them. They’re stunning dogs.” She said WISH volunteers made the dash from Perth to South Australia after a report prepared for the RSPCA recommended putting down many of the remaining dogs at the breeding facility. “I believe that a large number of the dogs will continue to suffer from their severe mental health disorder, despite rehoming,” the report stated. “As such, humane euthanasia is is likely the best course of action.” Ms Wishart said she was stunned by the huge reaction to the petition and the flood of support to the group’s Facebook page. “It has gone viral. I didn’t expect that sort of reaction. It’s insane,” she said. Another vet who inspected the 10 seized adult dogs at the RSPCA’s Adelaide shelter on behalf of the breeder claimed the dogs were suitable to be rehomed. These dogs simply require human interaction, not the death penalty Dr Chris Girling said. “These dogs are not dangerous, they are timid and shy, part of the typical border collie submissive behaviour,” he wrote. He criticised the separation of the mums from their pups and said the shelter accommodation at the RSPCA was worse than where they were before. The SA RSPCA, which has charged the breeder with 17 offences, said it “appreciated the offers from well-intentioned rescue organisations to take these dogs”. “The professional advice RSPCA has received to date indicates it would be highly irresponsible and inhumane to place these dogs into foster care or make them available for adoption,” it stated. “The (20) puppies currently display no major behavioural issues. All are suitable for rehoming and RSPCA is confident of finding good homes for every one of them.”

what a lovely idea

Win some lose some, one friend in the animal care industry has unfriended me over the videos of the border collies. whereas this was just shared on FB Nafela Rifaii I’d like to make an awareness post. I often see clueless people on here making comments about how lovely the RSPCA are. If you don’t work in the animal care industry I reckon you have no idea. I rescue cats every single day, and I work in the animal care industry. This is just one of many incidents. Friday I received a phone call about a little kitten which was abandoned at the park. I rushed there to find this little one whom is no older then 2 days old. The vet clinic I work at being 2 hours away, and the park being closest to the RSPCA, my only option was to rush there to buy kitten milk replacement formula. They took one look at the kitten and not knowing that I work in a vet clinic and know my rights said to me right away, “you have to surrender the kitten to be euthanised. It’s far too young to survive on its own, you are inexperienced and the kitten will die anyways so we need to put it to sleep” I then informed them that I am not an idiot, that I work in the animal care industry, that I have experience hand rearing newborn kittens and I’m not here to start a debate, I simply wish to buy formula. The vet then said to me “hang on, I’ll go get formula from the back store and I’ll be back in a moment”. She reappeared 20 minutes later and said to me “I’m sorry but I’ve consulted with my co workers and we have decided not to sell you any milk because you are very irresponsible and the humane thing to do is to euthanise this kitten and we have the rights to seize the kitten off you”... I made it clear to her that I was going to give the kitten a chance instead of murdering it and that even if he has 1% chance of living we should at least try. I took the kitten with me and drove off. Of course they tried to persuade me to hand over the kitten to be euthanised before I left and one of them even followed me outside. I drove to my local vets and purchased milk from there. Day 3 and the little kitty is as healthy as ever and has not died. Like I’ve said this is just one incident. Matter of the fact is, the RSPCA are euthanising thousands and thousand of animals yearly and they need to be held accountable for this genocide. People need to be educated on this so called organisation that they are so quick and eager to sponsor, when in fact only a fraction of the money raised for animal welfare is actually used on the animals Edit: of course after sharing my encounter with all of you, the RSPCA have contacted me and tried to hit me with the “defamation” card hoping to scare me into deleting this post, but that’s exactly what they want and I am not backing down. The world needs to know exactly what they’re responsible for, in hopes that people will not donate and sponsor them anymore.

https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/photos/a.356018714536846/1366428686829172/?type=3&theater&ifg=1 ooo lots of photos and videos of them https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/photos/a.356018714536846/1366428686829172/?type=3&theater&ifg=1

Does not sound like the rescue group are on the side of the puppy farm? "at least Most of them been SAVED ... OMG.." " WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page Yesterday at 09:31 We are feeling a little exhausted this week (but far, far from over it)after begging for these 10 plus innocent lives for 2 week - to no avail. Here in this video, while tears ran down my face from exhaustion and excitement, as we headed back from SA, loaded up with dogs in our car and the WISH RV full to the rim and dog trailer full of love and with all 42 of us just wanting to get home to WA. We put our favourite Jimmy Barnes on and got behind this truckie, who didn’t even know - that he was bringing us 42 home safely - after an exhausting 5 days on the road to rescue. Whoever you are, we thank you, you didnt even know that you were at the time our gurdian angel and thanks Jimmy you rock... But I need to say this. Zoo’s here have all changed. Look what Steve Irwin did and his wonderful family continue to do. They made all their animals worlds, as natural as possible. Every time we are sent a video from the public, in regards to this issue (and we have so many now) we are horrified to see the barbaric conditions out domestic dogs are kept in, while humans fight their fights in courts. We know of dogs that spend months to years on end in solitary confinement, when human court cases are impending. We find this whole situation a set up to fail from the start. Since October last year when they were seized, they have done nothing to restore the balance in these poor dogs. They did nothing for them to help them over come their fears. We are watching 37 dogs now after only a week, starting to play with toys and each other. We are seeing their playful side and puppyhood. We do not have an issue with the seizing of them for prosecution but OMG even humans in jail get tv, 3 meals a day, and exercise time out in the sunshine. If this was their intention to from the start to keep them isolated from their pack members (and they stated over crowding in breeders pens apparently 2 were kept together-well so they say) the one security they have even known. And being a pack member means, naturally, their is security in numbers. We will always be gutted for the fact. They took them from a neglectful situation and placed them in isolation. They cut out their sunshine and friends and and once a few had pups removed them from their mothers to leave them abandoned and alone. They studied them like monkeys in a zoo. With clip boards in hands. And not once have we seen a tear or soft word of compassion for these poor 10 adults and for that we will always be sorry, that they never gave us the chance to show them love and a beautiful world. They died in fear and unloved in a cold callous world and that is a hard pill to swallow. Our intentions was never ever to bad mouth the rspca, our only and utmost goal here-was to save them from death and isolation. This could of been handled better by them-if the dogs best interest was their main concern. But, their only concern was the prosecution of the breeders which we totally understand also but why did it have to be at the disgusting ending of these 4 dogs and we expect all 10. They have stated they are in fc and they can not release pictures and we feel that is absolute rubbish. They are the property of the rspca now to do as they wish hence the euthanasia of 4. If they have the right to euthanise them now, they have the right to take happy fc pictures of them being rehabilitated in fc homes. We have 37 in fc but there is over 80 others safe from the breeders and the rspca, and the other rescues are worried about the rspca and what they might do, if they find out who has them. But we are the voice for these puppy mill dogs and don’t bow down to being bullied by people in high places. Our love of dogs gives us the strength we need to stand tall and protect these innocent lives, as it seems no one else has to date. We have received only a few people saying, that we took their proof for courts and we are in cahoots with the breeders. Sadly they are wrong. The only side we stand on ‘’THE ONLY ONE’’ is saving these dogs lives and getting them into protection, away from EVERYONE who just wants them for a pawn in this human game. They deserved better and 4, expecting all 10 will never know how much we fought to give them a better life but we do and, thats all that matters here and to us. XOXOX We shouldn’t have to beg. #rescuedogsofinstagram #wishanimalrescue #savethebordercollies #adoptdontshop #cesarsos" https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=287436298840310 for some reason it will only open by highlighting and click on open in a new tab

Comments and video shared, I was taught never to make eye contact with a dog I dont know as it is a threatening thing to do to a dog you dont know, until you have been introduced and the dog accepts you? Apparently all these videos are at the property of the breeder and their pens and sheds.... http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-wont-my-dog-look-me-in-the-eye What a relief I was taught correctly, but wait, The ten were taken for not making eye contact, four of these dogs have now been put down because they failed to make eye contact when reassessed? quotes that are with the video below "Yet another assessment, thanks to whoever.Time to change how animal welfare is applied, who applies the law, and some well overdue honest and open debate, in favour of the animals for a change. I would have gone in and sat down, as owner had no issue with the dog, and let it come to me, surely to kill based on this quick assessment is wrong. The owners charges are based on this assessment as well." "Another of the behaviour tests carried out on the Border Collies by the rspca.Diagnosis: welfare state is extremely poor, suffering SEVERE MENTAL HARM.Recommendation: to be euthanised as soon as possible.Well this just leaves me speechless, this is cruelty of the highest order! Many dogs will avoid eye contact if you are poking a phone at them, l actually feel sick seeing this. Throws food at them instead of sitting down, looking in the other direction and softly offering a treat." " Well if you needed any more proof that the rspca has morphed into PETA, this video is it! They went there to find dogs to kill not to help dogs in need or suffering. Since when is SEVERE MENTAL HARM listed in the legislation as a reason to seize and destroy? I will tell you when ... NEVER! Who is this woman? She is not a behaviourist. Petition is the only answer." " what is the story behind why they were there in the first place. If it is because of the number of dogs they are breeding it doesn't fit with their approval of the dog/puppy farm they just gave their blessing to up north. I was going to ask this too, because those kennels look good for kennels. 1 OMFG. I just watched this, something needs to be done. Have these animals been saved. If I walked into any kennel of a dog I did not know and threw biscuits at it why oh why would it come out. The only reason would be if it was a very hungry savage beast and this is obviously a dog that is not hungry or treat motivated nor was it fearful or savage. Please why are they at this property. The girlfriend of the owner has previous convictions for running unsatisfactory puppy farms, so the owner of this more than adequate facility is guilty by association according to the rspca, these were revenge raids. The kennel is Council approved by the way. This is crap do you have to let them onto your property and into the kennels with your dogs Unless you know your rights and have an action plan in place (a local policeman you know, or your local member who will drop everything and come to vouch for you), yes, they will force their way in. The legislation says they can only enter your property without your permission if there is actual cruelty or neglect evident from the front fence, then you can't stop them. Legally you can stop them setting foot inside your front gate but it's imperative to know your legislation in relation to entry. could someone please explain to me why they are taking a towel into each kennel? Is 'towel therapy' a new theory of how to scare dogs more "look at this thing i can wave in your face because I'm not scary enough"

copied from fb page "..RSPCA SA temperament test, one of many recent ones, where they stated the animals could not be rehomed, only took them a few minutes to decide. Interesting background story to this process indeed. You see these puppies would have been homed, but on the first RSPCA inspection, the kennel came down with Kennel cough, so animals had to be quarantined. Then the RSPCA returned and made this decision, and applied the same process to 70 other lovely dogs. Luckily the RSPCA could only seize 10, pregnant bitches. That enabled me to get these puppies support and new homes, and a successful call out to other great shelters to get the rest to safety. Full story to come, with a fundraiser to help those great carers. We are still in the courts to safe guard those taken by the RSPCA. Who have had two reports done that they must be put down asap, my reports from top local vets and Behaviourists beg to differ. Find out today if we have saved them, or if they will be killed. These pups would have already been re-homed except the rspca bought KENNEL COUGH in on their shoes on their previous visit so the whole place had to be quarantined. Your tax dollars are given to the rspca via govt grants to enable them to do this Inspectorate work. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THE ANIMALS DESERVE BETTER! These dogs would be fine in a home 1 family situation ! Border Collies are not supposed to be friendly with strangers and I imagine their humans would have been distraught which they would have picked up on and been stressed Why did they take them anyway, the run was spotless and they looked clean and in lovely condition.....OR was it just because their pups could be sold for heaps "

Prior to 1.39 Video footage at the breeders facility, from 1.39 filmed at rspca facility.....

WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page Yesterday at 09:30 3/4/2019 A note to RSPCA South Australia and RSPCA Australia We know your watching. We know your reading this. We know you've been inundated with hundreds of calls and emails. We know more than 75000 people support us in our attempt to save the Border Collies. We know that you want to shut the breeder down. But we also know that killings these dogs to "prove" a point, isn't the answer. When Fridays court proceedings concluded, and you were awarded the right to decide what happens with the Border Collies now in your care, we cringed. Cringed because we knew your plan was the kill them. We have been asked how we know this, and the answer is simple. YOU TOLD US in the court documents. "The application said that it was in the best interests of the animals that some (if not all) of the adult dogs be humanely euthanized, and that the rest of the dogs be re-homed from the shelter to a new family or rescue facility." Not only does this show us that you already had your mind made up regarding the adults, but that you proposed the option of "rescue facility". So why now only days later are you stating that you will not allow another rescue group to take them on, or even give us the chance to asses them for ourselves. Your media release stated that "We already have very experienced foster carers who could be called upon if the dogs were capable of benefitting from housing in a domestic environment, and were safe to do so. Unfortunately neither is the case. The dogs’ behaviour indicates that they’ve had little or no experience of life outside a cage. Hence, they have likely never enjoyed the usual human interaction and socialisation received by family pets.". However we have 37 in care that beg to differ this story. We have adults upwards of 6 years old, and all they have ever known is kennels, yet are adapting perfectly, around children, babies, other dogs, cats horses, chickens, everything - and they are settling better than anyone could have expected or hoped. You stated that financially you cannot continue to house the 10 adults, and continue to pay expenses for them. We will take them off your hands TODAY. We will even assist in some of those costs and pay you $1000 PER ADULT. That is $10,000 towards your bills you have acquired. We will ADOPT all 10 adults from you and bring them into WISH Care. We will take over all future vet work, including desexing them and ending the breeding cycle for these ten, just like we have with the 37 in our care. Handing them over will not only free your kennels, but help you financially. Give us a month, let us place them with experienced foster carers who already know what they are dealing with as they have fostered siblings, aunts, mothers to your ten. Let us show you that we can save them. Let us allow you to show the public, that you choose an animals right to live, over the politics. Releasing these animals will not effect your upcoming court case. You have the evidence you need now. Please let them be dogs again, please let us save them. #savethebordercollies #wishanimalrescue

The rspca's side of the story... fascinating.. nothing was allowed to be published while George Pell was facing or during trial. but these people have been tried by press release in this already? even added that "Both defendants have previously been convicted of dog breeding offences in Victoria." yet a convicted rapist is no mention is allowed to have past convictions revealed on the grounds it is prejudicial to the current case? Is it because they will not be tried before a jury , therefore trial by media is fine ............ https://www.miragenews.com/fact-check-rspca-south-australia-s-seizure-of-10-adult-border-collie-dogs/?fbclid=IwAR2WrubMMg0xeX7RTeGl4CA_5hWHlMLU1KoKoaDRmJiTTxBuq7UjfFXHEbg

oh my? this is video of the dogs they seized. no one is safe then this is the information with the video. "OMG .. the Border Collie debacle in South Australia. Video was released today of the rspca Inspector assessing the dogs prior to seizing them. This is just mind blowing, it's very obvious to me these people don't have a clue what they're doing and are making it up as they go along.Things to note:• spotlessly clean, roomy kennel, with shadecloth over.• dogs are well groomed and look to be clean and in good condition. • these grubs were able to assess 4 dogs in 5 minutes, and only entered the kennel for 2 minutes. • no attempt was made to interact with the dogs, or even speak to them. • no attempt was made to come down to the level of the dogs, or to sit quietly and let them come to you. • the "little blue or grey" one who hid in the kennel was given a death sentence because it did not come rushing out with tail wagging at the total stranger who had entered it's home. • these dogs are exhibiting - in my opinion - very typical behaviour for Border Collies, they are a working breed, they are quick on their feet and they tend to 'slink' around, as they do when working sheep. • dogs aren't silly, when a stranger comes into their kennel exhibiting wary behaviour and not trying to engage with them at all, they are going to hide from that person if possible, guaranteed. 4 of the 10 seized dogs have now been put to sleep by the rspca, despite massive public outcry calling for them to be released to a rescue for rehabilitation. Well if this doesn't enable ANKC members to see the reality of what these criminals are doing, nothing will. Any one of us could be in this situation at some point in the future. I just cannot believe the rspca is getting away with this and the Minister won't lift a finger to step in and stop this sheer insanity." https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/videos/405293983604644/?t=17 WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page 15 hrs · This footage was sent to us today, showing the RSPCA conducting "inspections and assessments" at the Breeders Facility. I think the video speaks for itself..RSPCA are dead to us, they are gone but this is never ever forgotten xxx

must have had the change of owner as he was listed as her dog, in her name and to her address, just no one was home when they rang, remember.

was told to tell you "File an interlocutory order." sorry have no idea what it is, but a solicitor should know.

no link to it sorry

Further to the plight of the Border Collies at risk. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/rspca-urged-to-rehome-murray-mallee-border-collies-after-expert-recommends-immediate-euthanasia/news-story/5990ddd48fdc57e94c590166c3ed0880?utm_source=DailyTelegraph&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=SocialFlow&fbclid=IwAR2zi8CJdwekO-bmm6iJz8fP4zqn7Saae9Hnddb4JAzxpioP94dwLXvu8to "WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WA 29 March at 22:34 · ❤ Think we have been a bit quiet over the last week, well looks can be deceiving. Last week we were asked to take in 16 Border Collies from South Australia. We hit the road first thing Saturday morning at 5am, for the massive trip across the border, and ended bringing home 31 dogs to WA. Our biggest rescue mission ever at 5500km and 5 days on the road, where we just slept, tried to get meals after driving 10-15 hour days and drove and drove. 1. Are these the ones the RSPCA SA are holding and claim to be un-rehomable? NO. But they are from the same breeding facility that these original 10 adults, and 5 puppies were seized from. The RSPCA claim that the 15 dogs they seized, are not suitable for foster care as "Foster care was not an option for these dogs, as they have never known the domestic pet home environment". Sadly 4 have since birthed in the shelter, resulting in 5 stillbirth and 4 puppies "humanely euthenised". Thus leaving 23 puppies still in care. 2. Today the appeal to release these 33 dogs has been dismissed. The RSPCA now have full control over their future. And further to that, 23 are PUPPIES, 18 of which were born in their care. ❤ Well out of the 31 we have 26 females-mothers included and 5 boys. Will we have 100% success rate in getting these dogs rehomable, at absolutely no cost to the RSPCA. They are not aggressive, simply scared. And guess what, every singe one is in foster care, in real homes, with families, children, and other pets! Has it cost us? YES over $5000 Is it worth it? HELL YES!!!! Are the dogs scared? Yes. But we have seen absolutely NO aggression at all, NOTHING. They are amazing gentle BC's that deserve our time and patience and a home to call their own. ❤ We have put out a plea to the RSPCA to allow us to take on the remaining 33 dogs that they have in care, and we will take on full responsibility from this point forward. Our email received a generic response. We have feet on the ground in SA, ready to collect these dogs if we were allowed to, but sadly this seems to be rejected, and for what appears to be no good reason. Our petition shows that 45000 of you want the RSPCA to take the help offered and allow us the chance to help and let rescues step in. And 45000 people, can't be WRONG !!! ❤ Please RSPCA, do the right thing and allow us to help you. After all, isn't that what rescue is meant to be about? Helping the animals.... lets leave the politics aside and give these dogs a fighting chance. There is enough rescues out there ready and waiting. ❤ Dont you DARE euthanise these mums or pups, they are all siblings/relatives to ours. Dont you bloody dare.... ❤ We are not in it for money-we are in it for the love and this, more than proves our commitment to them all. Please note-no one is available for adoption at this stage. No emails will be responded to for now. The page will be notified, when they are ready for their new homes, we promise to let you know x"

I am a little puzzled, wouldnt they let you pay what you had and then pay the rest soon as you had the rest of the 300? Doesnt sound like any chances were given you to pay it as you got the money, dont they do that? Did you ask the council to accept what you had together and they give it to the rspca if they wouldnt take it from you? go to the papers and the tv fast as you can, adverse publicity is not what they crave maybe that might save him for you............ have to admit I had to pay all they wanted in the one hit but was loaned the balance by friends when I had to find 600 with no prior warning how much they wanted, they had my boy for 13 days and refused to return him until they had tested him for anything they could think of in hopes of finding something wrong they could charge me with. different scenario to your problem

think the biggest problem is animals are all just as individual as people so there is no one size fits all. and yep my mums dont tend to care, others do, never forget a friend who got one of my chihuahua babies I had to raise from two weeks, she was sooooooo autocratic. when she wanted attention the whole house knew it, even if it was 4 in the morning. so wanted to keep her but hubby had enough so at 8 weeks daughters best friend nicked her for her mum,they took her to bed with them, solved that one but opened another, when she wanted to do zoomies she did, except as she ran past their faces those little sharp puppy teeth opened up noses like a zipper. lots of blood later, Marilyn came up with a beauty, began yelping like a murdered puppy. snuff stopped in her tracks, raced back to apologise and cleaned up all the blood. went back to zooming, got too rough more yelps of pain from Marilyn and in no time she was ever so careful not to bite too hard. we were rolling in laughter as she told us....BUT it worked........

Sure did, in spades....

Deb Willett· Story of a puppy. When this puppy was with his dog mom, his mom would do anything to protect him. His mom was assertive, firm, and fair. She ran a tight ship and provided very clear structure to the puppies. The mom would not allow other people or dogs to come bother her puppies when they were not ready. She made the puppies feel very safe knowing that they would be fully advocated for at all time. She would monitor the interaction and correct inappropriate behaviour between the puppies during play consistently. There was a clear structure in place so no one was confused. Then the puppy left the mom and went home with a human. The human family was so excited because this puppy was so cute. They spent all their time hugging and coddling this puppy. They could not leave the puppy alone. They invited all their friends and family members over to see the "new puppy". They would allow many strangers and dogs to "say hi" to the puppy constantly. All the sudden, the puppy's dog mom was no longer there to advocate for this puppy yet her role was not replaced by anyone. Not only that, the puppy is now surrounded by people and animals who would not leave him alone to give him the space he desperately needed to feel secure in a new environment. The puppy was in shock and was confused. He had no one to lean on, no structure to go by. He had no idea how to cope with the stress and there was no guidance. Instead of taking up the position of being the pup's advocate and filled the void left by his dog mom as the leader, the human chose to act even softer and more unstable, weak, and vulnerable by trying to "comfort" this puppy with lots of affection, treats, and soft voices. They hugged him, baby talked to him, bought him lots of cloths, brushed him 290 times a day, and they kept allowing strangers and dogs to approach and greet this puppy because they were told this was "socialization" and would help the puppy to become more confident. They took the puppy to pet shops to further the "socialization" where the puppy was overwhelmed with lots of people with excited and unstable energy with their high pitch voice who could not get their hands off this puppy despite his constant body language pleading to just be left alone. Again, the human did not stop anyone from getting too close too soon as the puppy's dog mom would certainly have. The puppy was very shocked by how clueless and insensitive his owners were. He was used to having his dog mom keeping everything under control but his humans were not doing that at all! Where is mom? Who is here to advocate for me? Then the puppy was taken to dog parks and he was bullied. The human did not seem to notice. Everyone and their dogs were really aroused and excited. It was very overwhelming with no structure and no one was there to advocate for this puppy. The puppy finally had enough so one day when he was on leash, he growled and lunged at these "rude" dogs yet he was corrected immediately. His human freaked out over his growling. They yelled at him and then they hugged him and coddled him. This made the puppy more confused and insecure. He expected his human--who was supposed to be his leader--to understand why he growled and step up calmly to protect him assertively--as he was sure his mom would; instead, he was punished for asking his leader for help, and his human was not calm at all. They looked scared and stressed. How could he trust someone that unstable and weak to protect him? The human was heartbroken. They said, "we love him so much, why isn't he friendly?" "We have taken so much time to socialize him, we have done all the right things, why is he aggressive?" "We have been so nice to him, it makes no sense." They felt guilty, and sorry, and frustrated, and betrayed. The whole household was filled with what was interpreted by the puppy as, once again, a very soft, unstable, and weak energy. That did nothing to fill the void left by the puppy' mom. The puppy's craving for leadership and structure was never even acknowledged. Now the human stayed away from the puppy because they were scared. The puppy was not taken out so he was even more scared of anything outside of his immediate familiar surrounding. How can this puppy trust someone so unstable, weak, and insensitive? How could he have confidence when he had no one to trust and count on? How could he be balanced and stable if he was living under constant anxiety and insecurity? The family felt guilty about locking up the puppy so they decided to take him for a walk. Once outside, the puppy growled, lunged, and tried to charge at a human walking toward him. The puppy felt that he had no other option. He had to take up the role of his mom and protect himself. He had to get the person away before he came too close into his space like others had done hundreds of times in the past. The human was petrified. They could not believe it! What happened to our cute little puppy? We loved him so much, why? He was locked up in his yard for a few months and when he became too big and destructive he was given up to the shelter. Everyone cried. They tried to be honest so they told the shelter the dog was “dog and human aggressive”. He was very stressed and anxious in the shelter. He just wanted to have his space but he was surrounded by barking unstable dogs and lots of humans coming and going all day long all displaying unstable, chaotic, and emotional energy. He kept barking and charging at the fence to tell them to back off. All he ever wanted was just to have someone acting like his mom, someone who would lead and advocate so he could simply follow and finally relax. He did not care for all the nice scarves, all the cute leashes and colorful harnesses, all the home cooked treats, all the squeaky toys, all the expensive beds. He just wanted a leader that he could trust. He had no idea why such a simple need was never met. He was very frustrated, lost, confused, and stressed. But it was too late... He was not a cute puppy anymore. No one wanted an aggressive dog. After a few weeks in the shelter, he was put down. The end. K B L Cl breeders fault Hide or report this C M-B So very accurate sometimes and so sad and preventable Hide or report this D L My heart breaks... D WWhere is the share button, millions of people need to read this Sh C-E Please put this with a "share" button, so the story can go out over all the lands. Hide or report this J M Oh Deb. Did you write this? I was in tears by the end of this. It is so true and I see it so often but have never thought of it like it is written. Karen why would you say it is the breeders fault. Am I allowed to share this? Hide or report this Rebecca Ipsen Hill So true Hide or report this G R I did not read it all but I have a method of training my pups from the first minute I get them and they grow into happy obedient well rounded dogs. They are allowed to have their quirks (as I can hear Queen barking at birds outside) after all they are doggies. Hide or report this M T Nailed it. Thanks Deb Willett. Sadly the propensity to humanise animal behaviour is leading to this level of misunderstanding and cruelty to animals everywhere. Never thought of it like that, was given an "aggressive" six months old puppy to re-home. She would attack and bit, the second her food was put in the bowl. A VERY stern NO and great assistance from tdierikx, there hasn't been a hint of aggressive behaviour since. Happy, well behaved ex delinquent. With questioning, that is what they had been doing with her.....as well as taking her food away soon as it was put in the bowl, then handing back, then taking it away, repeatedly, because they had been told that is how you train them not to be food aggressive.

OK? anyone have a clue what this fb post is talking about? "Laura M "You were all too complacent, now look where we are. The death of pedigree dogs is imminent, 5 years max. "Laura M 5 hrs I have never felt so truly disheartened by the future of animals in Australia, Victoria in particular. One day the great and mighty RSPCA will get their way, nodogs will be being breed by just normal 'breeders' who actually know what they are doing, who have put so many years of work into their breeds. (I am focusing on DogsVic breeders here. If you hobby breed a litter of whatever, your days are numbered too, even more if you've got over two entires.) Maybe it's never seemed so real until I printed out the DV supplied forms for everything (Health checks, pre breeding health check, what vet you use page, dog details, dog management pages, ect...) Maybe it's because I own a house, not 10 + concert kennel runs to keep dogs in. Maybe it's because I actually love my dogs and not see them as a commodity. Maybe it's because the cats I have know what it's like to lay on a couch instead of always in cages. Maybe it's because I actually know what I'm doing and not because I've read it in a book. As I look at my dogs curled up together on my bed because it's cold today, the hairless is under the doona because she hasn't got a jacket on just yet. It's things like this that are going to be a thing of the past. One day in time people are going to wake up and realize that there is nothing much left of dog breeds, of people who actually know things, of people who have hands on experience. I read so many comments of people wanting a dog and being told to go to a shelter. That would be fine if I wanted a huge mix breed dog that might eat other dogs, that would be perfect for all the older people wanting a lap dog. When did everything literally go so wrong in this country with animals. When I see puppy farmers promoted every day on a group I am on. When did it become that the likes of the RSPCA (who I never thought I could hate as much as I do now, I did not think it was possible that at just 29 I could find something as utterly revolting as I find that society.) would drive the rules that wants all dogs/cats in size suitable runs for their whole lives, well at least until they have had their allowed amount of litters or hit the age limit where you should either put them down (because dogs don't matter and you couldn't possibility give a damn about them as their owners) or find them a new home (because everything should be thrown out like a rotten vegetable). That a society claiming to be against animal cruelty ect would be the driving force to turn animals from pets into numbers that need to be treated and documented like machines. Now sit back and watch as the future takes away all the things that were normal once before. Watch breeds die out, watch as actual care of dogs and cats slowly die out because if a book doesn't tell us what to do, then who will." Presume there is new even tougher laws being passed, but not heard what they are?

his original post on fb is on page 3 but here it is if you dont want to go looking for it. so he was booked to see the vet 20th march. as you can see his post of 18th march so they acted pretty smartly taking it the next day. A J New member · 18 March at 16:52 I adopted a dog from the RSPCA and he has a sore tooth. I called them so they could help him and did so expecting their assistance because it had only been a couple of weeks since I got him. I had been delayed calling them because I had been in hospital. They told me it was my responsibility and I had a good old go at them for not honouring their promise. Today I had an inspector on my doorstep expecting me to speak to him or he would get a warrant. The police called me and I explained it was over a sore tooth. I haven't heard back and am now concerned they will be back to take this dog that I love so very much. What on earth can I do about this? Thing is, I live 80 Kim's from the nearest RSPCA and for all the resources they have used to come to harass me, they could have checked his tooth. I am so upset and so angry about this. I have never in my 55 years, hurt or neglected an animal and I am stunned by this behaviour.

Forgot to mention, he did have the dog booked with his own vet for that wednesday, but they took it tuesday.

I agree with you Snook, idiot. he never mentioned that when he asked for advice only said he thought it had a sore tooth. nothing else. although makes u wonder how it passed the rspca vet check before sale ? Having said that, when the vet, Mark Lowrey brought me Stringy, carried in his arms, to take home, he was completely unaware he had torn trachea, severe dehydration and pneumonia? he sure looked sick to me and I did ask him "what is wrong with my dog" his reply was "I am happy to examine him at your cost." told him no thanks he is going straight to his own vet. He had to have intravenous fluids and antibiotics overnight to save his life.. so maybe things haven't improved much between 1999 and 2019?

Have some news on Alex. he said he heard the rspca tell the police to commit him. now the half good news. "as well as the newly adopted dog (Row), they took his other dog, cat, kitten (he'd only had a few days) and 2 rats.Yesterday lunchtime they returned all Alex's animals except Row. Yesterday arv, they send the email about prosecuting him.It doesn't get much more perverse." He received this. Further to my situation, from RSPCA legal late today - do they have any idea when to just stop?!? The insanity continues as was expected. You hope they may wake up to themselves, but in typical style, they continue acting like fools! - " Dear Mr Weir We refer to your email below of 21 March 2019, in response to an email from Inspector Jansen that same day. We note that you adopted Row from RSPCA for $29 on 23 February 2019. On that day you acknowledged the health indemnities and the free sick return period of 14 days. These aspects of your purchase of Row would rarely be offered by any other seller, particularly for that sale price, and are more than sufficient to ensure any health concerns passed on at the time of sale are addressed. Your assertion that Row was under warranty is incorrect. It is, with respect, absurd to suggest that RSPCA, a charity for animals, rehoming animals from often unknown backgrounds, ought to warrant an animal for more than the very reasonable period of 2 weeks, or even for life. The provision of veterinary care is a responsibility assumed by owners who take animals into their care, and become persons in charge of those animals. On 16 March 2019, 21 days after adopting Row, and 7 days after the expiry of the free sick return period, you called RSPCA and held an expectation that Row would be treated at RSPCA’s cost for an injury or disease causing pain in the mouth area, and evidenced by Row pawing at his mouth constantly, and dragging his mouth on the floor and walls excessively. You stated that ‘this was not just a minor thing, he is clawing viciously at his face’ and you said that Row was in ‘obvious pain’. You stated that this had been happening ever since you brought Row home from RSPCA. It is concerning that you failed to take reasonable steps to provide treatment for Row, firstly in the period during which that treatment would have been free of charge, and secondly in the ensuing 7 days, particularly given your acknowledgment of the seriousness of the condition, the advice provided to you by RSPCA, and the pain that Row was suffering. The Inspector intends submitting an application for prosecution in relation to what in his view was a breach of your duty of care owed to Row, by you failing to take reasonable steps to provide appropriate treatment for his disease or injury. At that time, an application for disposal order will be made, requesting the court transfer ownership of Row to RSPCA. The Prosecutions Committee will consider that application and make the decision within 28 days of the day Row was seized from you. In the interim, boarding and veterinary costs will continue to accrue while Row is in the care of RSPCA. Boarding is $22 per day in addition to veterinary costs. Boarding costs are currently $176.00, and veterinary costs to date are $207.50. If you were to surrender Row prior to 4.00pm this Friday, the boarding and veterinary costs will be waived. Your surrender of Row, considered to be cooperation, will be taken into account in the prosecution committee’s consideration of the Inspector’s application early next week. We urge you to seek urgent legal advice, from a qualified lawyer, particularly in relation to the surrender of Row. We would be pleased to discuss the matter in person with you or your legal representative. Please feel free to contact our office directly should you have any questions. Thank you. Tracey Jackson Prosecutions and Privacy Officer LLB Wacol Animal Care Campus RSPCA Queensland RSPCA E [email protected] W rspcaqld.org.au Fb RSPCA Queensland Tw twitter.com/RSPCAQld P 07 3258 5692 M 0412 923 551 F Locked Bag 3000, Archerfield BH QLD 4108 Australia" personally I think he was incredibly naive in thinking they would do anything after selling him Row for only $29 in the first place. but he has certainly learned that lesson. neither he or his friends seemed to take on board they had to be 100% accurate in what they said or nothing they said would be believed.. finally there is the full list of what was taken. he is incredibly lucky they didn't decide to label him as a hoarder. I think anyway. from what I copied and pasted from his first question he never said what they are saying he said in that letter from them. I know from one of the nice inspectors, told me they want to make it any more than five pets can be labeled as hoarding and want it made legal they can be seized on that alone.