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forget any hope of that. the AR lot are sitting beside the pollies stroking their egos, while dictating word for word what they need to write to have the ar lot promise to vote for them .
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"The ACT adheres to the national code of practice in culling animals, including in kangaroo culling, which is supported by the RSPCA. Veterinarian Dr David Rizkalla, from the Gables Veterinary Group, said the recognition of sentience was a good place to start enforcing animal rights. "It's more about protecting animals from people who can harm them, than giving animals better opportunities," he said. But he said it was important to clearly define which animals were recognised as sentient. "It could get in the way of the economy," he said. "I think it has to be quite clear if you introduce that sort of thing to large animals, like cows. "Farmers spend money on the animal if it gets them more money, it's a profit thing, it's not a sentimental value, it's an economic value." Is this meant to say that its only going to be recognised as "sentient" if it isn't for example a roo going to be "culled" or a cow sold or slaughtered"? as for "Farmers spend money on the animal if it gets them more money, it's a profit thing, it's not a sentimental value, it's an economic value." is this man for real? does he realise how many farmers spend a fortune looking after an animal during sickness or drought, paying costs way beyond what can ever be made back by selling it? if it was solely "economic value" EVERYTHING would be sold when a drought strikes..... economic sense is sell and wait for the drought to break... otherwise why havent the dairy farmers, being paid less than the cost of feeding their cattle tried for so long to keep their herds going....it sure was not for the income. there was over 3,600 dairy farmers before the onset of this last drought and of course the $1 a ltre milk. now there are some 600 left, the rest bankrupt. stupid people, they liked their cattle and tried to find ways to keep them, even when they had no income to feed themselves, let alone the cattle in the end.
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I have no idea if they have been disbanded now our government has shrank CSIRO Animal Health into little more than a flake of its former size now. Accountants and office staff outnumber the scientists who actually made millions for Australia before being disbanded.......... so much has been disbanded. CSIRO Animal health led the world in animal research, health and prevention. With the latest information of the permit to export beef from America to Australia it is only a matter of time before BSE and foot and mouth arrive here along with goodness knows what, so many fruit disease's have already arrived since the level playing field arrived to achieve the vision of Australia as a player in the world economy, bio-security is no where near considered as important as free trade by the politicians of this country anymore.. There used to be sentinel herds, animals and plants in the top end to monitor for any incoming virus, bacteria or other disease vectors entering. Suspect like the closure of most of all the CSIRO animal health farms and facilities they too have been sold off. It is a subject my family know something about as my husband, son and many, many of our friends worked for this once great organisation that was once the envy around the world for the calibre of scientists who worked there and groundbreaking research done for decades. Even research as mundane as the correct antibiotic dosages for optimum efficacy so your vet can be sure your pet is saved..... and so, so much more. Two CSIRO employees, (coworkers with my family) decided to leave and tackle cancer research and have now formed their own company, the first to achieve remission in a mesothelioma patient . http://engeneic.com/ This is our interest,,, science..... EnGeneIC's lead technology platform, EDV™ utilizes antibody-targeted, bacterially derived, non-living "nanocells" to release high concentrations of chemotherapeutic agents, molecularly targeted drugs, and RNA-interference molecules directly into targeted tumor cells. In doing so, EDV™ nanocells enable current cancer treatments to be more potent and far less toxic, while also offering a potential new means for treating drug-resistant cancers. " Which means, not being fried inside your own skin, do not lose your hair, in fact none of the myriad side affects that happen with the present dosing of chemo direct into your body to fry every cell in your whole body as it does presently... These nano cells only target the cancer cells and do not damage any other cells in the body.... not the miserable scuttling little creatures ruining the lives of people they target because they are too dumb to even know their subject before they strike......but so far protected by their equally stupid politician protectors. unfortunate to learn one day of their existence, stupidity and unaccountability for that stupidity, that is.
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Lets be stupid by all means. I meant ENTIRELY the bio-security risk but you are so one eyed SO cannot and will not see anything BUT what you do want to see. then accuse me of something that is not true to make your facts fit your vision. All I and everyone else who has learned the hard way, is that there be an avenue of appeal through an ombudsman, in the event of a dispute against the actions of special constables................ instead of the only present avenue of through the courts and guaranteed hundreds of thousands and in may cases millions wasted fighting for justice.... But you want your gods unfettered. they are to you, Infallible, like the pope , always right... the gift of being appointed by god. no wonder you are incapable of seeing that any organisation let alone a so called "charity" operateing with no accountability for the actions taken by employees, no avenue of appeal, even override a fully accredited holder of a University Degree of BvSc to demand the return or cessation of the slaughter of seized animals it's own vet can attest have nothing wrong with them.. Can enter and shoot any animal they so choose, even 131 if they so choose without avenue of appeal, actually not even any warning.(murray grey cattle stud and which court case they lost and 1.4 million damages awarded, BUT THE CATTLE ARE DEAD so nothing is going to bring back the dead)... Enter and shoot a lame horse and remove the leg for "evidence" leaving the body for the family and children to find, in the garbage was the injections and dressings wrapping the horse vet had only administered that morning.... THEY ARE NOT COMPETENT TO MAKE SUCH DECISIONS ON THE SPOT........... No psychological screening of employees to actually ensure they are sound of mind before they are handed "more power than the police" (direct quote from more than one special constable, incidentally) not that you care, gods on this earth to you long as they are wearing their badges.. I know none of that worries you one jot... any animal is better off dead isn't it by the comments you make. That is the only way you can justify the deaths of animals whose vets (who have done years to achieve their BvSc Diploma, believe have no reason to be killed, yet you believe these know nothing special constable have very right to kill the second they "form the opinion" to kill them.. that isn't even getting to the issue of the seized and later killed.... (why do Vet's bother doing all that study?, become an rspca special constable and you suddenly are an all knowing animal expert) even when a magistrate finds you killed them for no reason, and awards 1.4 million in damages against your employer...................still keep the job. a vet would be out of a job. odd that
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Harness or Collar, what do you use for walks?
asal replied to Animal House's topic in General Dog Discussion
depends on your dog really, there is an hilarious video doing the rounds on facebook. her dog decided to chase the ducks and dragged her into the water, give her, her due, she never let go and as she slid into the water hooked her heels into the rocks and finally won. soggy walk home though. -
certainly haven't seen it in 60 years and hope to never see it again, my dad was considered quite weird, all his dogs were vaccinated, in those days his were the only ones in the street.
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does she know if the bit about " an untreatable distemper, from an imported Koren dog" is true? We are so lucky in australia distemper is almost extinct now, terrible to see, even when some survive so many are are so damaged
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excellent advice for potential puppy or dog buyer
asal replied to asal's topic in General Dog Discussion
The problem is, even with people who have pets, so few seem to realise animals are as individual as people and you have to find what works with each, they are not all the same, no such thing as one size fits all -
apparently america has shut down so many "backyard" breeders they are importing hundreds of thousands of dogs to stock their "rescues"..
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and now a dog from Korea has brought in an untreatable distemper, putting our North American dogs at risk because there is no shot to protect our dogs. This is a plane stacked to the roof of rescue dogs being flown into Lancaster last year to a Megadoption event in Philadelphia. If a breeder packed dogs in a plane like this, the pict would be posted on every major news fb page. Wonder how the water in the dixie cups zip tied to the crates lasted during a long flight?
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Draft guidelines tell dog owners to stop training if pet gets anxious
asal replied to asal's topic in In The News
too good not to share surely? I'VE BEEN BANNED FROM WOOLWORTHS Yesterday I was at my local Woolworths store buying a large bag of My Dog dog food for my loyal pet and was in the checkout queue when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had an elephant? So, since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Dog Diet again. I added that I probably shouldn’t, because I ended up in hospital last time, but I'd lost 10 kilograms before I woke up in intensive care with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms. I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pockets with My Dog nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in queue was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified, she asked me if I ended up in intensive care because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off the kerb to sniff an Irish Setter's arse and a car hit me. I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard. I'm now banned from Woolworths. Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the world to think of daft things to say. Forward this now, (especially) to all your mature friends...... it will be their laugh for the day. -
I post what I find, if its fake news, point it out, but unless its discussed then it just does the rounds uncommented on. apparently there are quite a few people unhappy about this piece of news in england.... so many ankc people think its unethical to breed any puppys for pets. only to replace for the next generation and the few surplus to your needs allowed to be pet homed. and the rspca are all for that scenario. As are a huge percentage of ankc members, doubt that? the figures for 2017 prove it, and even the ankc has a policy that they immediately inspect any member who breeds ten or more litters in one year, and remember if its a toy breed that could be from ten to 20 pups, the equivalent of two litters for many breeds. http://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf The good news though, only 86 breeders Australia wide need inspecting so major resource save, everyone else is left in peace... but the slander of the 86 is pretty blanket, just read the comments on the other ankc forums, not just here, not much chance of finding a ankc puppy for a pet for the majority of australians. Yet this has been allowed to go ahead? tragic for the dogs https://metro.co.uk/2015/07/16/britain-just-approved-a-farm-that-breeds-puppies-for-animal-testing-5299201/?fbclid=IwAR0V-p0z-_KLUe8jhAn4EygPJxHjndTOOziu1EaUjBNmdeFnPtc59dxJnoc
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you might have some believing you but the disaster that befell the border collies in south australia kind of gives the lie to your assumption I am alone in discovering they are not what they make themselves out to be. took ten dogs based solely on the fact the dogs did not come to them, labeled as psychologically damaged the reason given to taking them, not inedequate housing or health. then reports saying all ten cannot be rehabilitated and get court order to kill all ten and addition court order to seize all the rest of the dogs they didnt take at the time. except apparently the owner realising what fate awaited the rest gave them away to rescues and all have been successfully rehomed? The rescues begged them to hand over the ten they want to kill but nope wont hand them over to anyone... apparently have killed four of them but still have the other six still locked up..it used to be called "dog in the manger" behaviour. The suspicion is maybe the bad press a LOT of people have issues in case you haven't noticed. shoot me all you like. I dont care. until we have a royal commission into the rspca nothing will improve, maybe even then it wont. but at least its a step in the right direction.
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https://caninetraining.com.au/dog-blog/can-rspca-be-trusted?fbclid=IwAR1jCkUaW400DpAesce9txtG1E_PdwBprErE8uJXb-R28CK4NWo4AZvP48o Can RSPCA be trusted to help our dogs? Soap Box Friday, 03 May 2019 110 Hits RSPCA are one the biggest killers of dogs with behavioural issues, not only in Australia, but every country they operate in. You only have to look up their statistics. A society that is supposed to be an advocate for animals and have sworn to protect them, and yet can't (won't) even modify many of the dogs behaviours that are taken into their care, due to pushing an emotive ideology that is in their minds, more important than a dogs life. Instead of opening their minds and looking for alternative help, they prefer to kill. RSPCA should be the last organisation governments and society should be looking too in regards to responsible dog training, behaviour modification and training tools. RSPCA treat trainers that will not support their positive only ideology like lepers. A number of years ago, whilst I was operating in Adelaide, I put my hand out and publicly (and directly to RSPCA SA via email) offered to help RSPCA modify dogs behaviours that they deemed not suitable for re-homing and therefore allocated to be euthanised, FREE OF CHARGE. They didn't even bother responding to my offer, and instead blocked me from their Facebook page when I publicly offered this type of help directly on their page. Here was a trainer, wanting to HELP save dogs lives, but their cognitive dissonance wouldn't allow them to accept my offer, or to even acknowledge and thank me for my offer. I know of a few dog trainers that have offered RSPCA similar help, with similar results. Totally ignored! Governments and society need to wake up to the agenda RSPCA are pushing. There needs to be a full government inquiry into the RSPCA's operations, and how in reality they are putting the welfare of our dogs second to an emotive ideology that has statistically been proven to fail in a lot of cases. Even if an alternative method of training can save only a few dogs lives each year, isn't it worth the effort? However, in my personal and professional opinion, the numbers of dogs that could be helped and be saved that the RSPCA are failing would be extremely high. But I guess we will never know, as I believe ego, and the fear of being proven to be wrong is too much of a cross for them to bear. If our dogs lives are so important to them, then a training ideology proven not to be highly successful should not be more important than the welfare of our dogs. Dogs lives matter! #dogslivesmatter
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Draft guidelines tell dog owners to stop training if pet gets anxious
asal replied to asal's topic in In The News
well no one here , but this lady is trying to stay within the new law already Jacqi Xena Xolo Yesterday at 22:14 So tonight I was practicing my new approach with the impending new Government Dog standards coming in. Instead of “ Cmon pee pee time” I said “Excuse me, would anyone like to partake in a toilet break on the lawn” well everyone just sat there, not one moved, I rephrased my question. “Good afternoon my beautiful Furless family, I’m thinking about taking a stroll out the front of the house, if anyone wants to relieve themselves while we walk, that would be lovely, I shall of course have my first aid kit tied to my back, keeping my hands free to better serve you all” nothing, no one moved. Feeling I had failed and becoming worried myself, my husband yells out “Stop talking to the dogs your making them anxious” . I went to the garage to get the first aid kit for our outing, when I returned, Supch Besitos Naca ( Hoover) had shat near the fire place, Taha had pissed on his shit, Annata had peed on this in her bitches britches ( guess that’s rude now too) Annata peed in her girly pants. Trying not to get stressed with the melting poop and smell and mess, I just sat and cried, Colin yells “Stop, your making the dogs anxious” I guessed after emptying out they didn’t want to go outside to toilet now, so I went out by myself (not to toilet). With the door closing, it stressed the dogs , thinking I was leaving them I guess, Colin then yells “Stop making the dogs anxious” Chamuco waiting to go out then pees on the floor in sheer terror, (unknown to me) racing in to settle the dogs I slip on the fresh pee, lying there in agony I remember I can’t scream, cry or seem upset ( we can’t make the dogs anxious). Looking at the dogs they do seem anxious, so I decide to go to the vet, just to be sure . Normally a 30 minute drive, sadly now practicing for the new rules we avoid any roads with traffic calming devices (speed bumps) it takes 2 hours 5 mins to get to the Vet. I left Colin home as he was stressed from carrying the first aid kit up the road whilst walking Annata as every second car stopped and ask him if he was ok and needed help. But yeah, we are ok! Guess it could have been worse with Police and people chasing us........... -
Draft guidelines tell dog owners to stop training if pet gets anxious
asal replied to asal's topic in In The News
Looks like NSW is due for some new laws too. so much for being consulted on future legislation as we were assured was going to happen after the meeting last year. Or they would not need to be asking for clarification. NSW DPI and the NSW Office of Local Government are improving companion animal breeding practices and promoting responsible pet ownership in a number of ways. Regulations and legislation relating to the companion animals has had strong Government focus, particularly in recent years. Recently, the DPI issued a brochure outlining some new practices that will be introduced from 1st July 2019. The information provided in that brochure was basic and did not encompass how DOGS NSW members and registered breeders should proceed in relation to Breeder Identification Number or DOGS NSW membership number use when advertising dogs or puppies for rehoming. To ensure DOGS NSW members are provided with accurate information and can be ready for compliance with the new practices from the 1st July 2019, we have sought further information and clarification on the aspects of these changes that may have confused some members. Be assured that as soon as this information has been provided to DOGS NSW, it will be made available to the membership. DOGS NSW Address: 44 Luddenham Road Orchard Hills NSW 2748 -
unreal since when was a "law" voluntary? "“I think everyone else generally across the community has the same attitude, so let’s just have strong standards of animal welfare. These are voluntary and they’re a draft.” https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-government-draft-guidelines-tell-dog-owners-to-stop-training-if-pet-gets-anxious-ng-b881183852z?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&tid=1556758561937&fbclid=IwAR1uNMDMi6XN84vNjVd1m_oKDR7ay78V68C_bxIJIn0EdjRN8j4IbFSytzY https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-dog-experts-criticise-wa-governments-draft-guidelines-for-dog-owners-ng-b881184683z?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&tid=1556758421507&fbclid=IwAR33qxqeTXaCqx4mjZtI3-86PSB-bmL7xuOfyWwLMwPYbIPX8CaJeZrF7ug
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"Michelle Steigmeyer 13 August 2017 · Elkhart, IN, United States There's a woman that jogs with her GSD every day by the Indiana K9 Learning Center. She puts a prong collar on her huge working dog and off they go. We had a nice visit over the fence the other day. I complimented her on her dog's manners. I stood about six feet from her when we initially met and he was relaxed and unconcerned. (And no, I didn't ask if I could pet him). That's when I find out what a mean owner she is. Her large GSD carries a doggy style backpack with water in it and she's been told that's mean. She stopped at a yard sale, bought some books, put them in the backpack and she was told that's mean. She's been chastised for running her dog with her because running a dog is mean. I'm not sure why someone would feel that a 100 pound working breed isn't capable of carrying 10 pounds of books but someone did. I'd say that person has never looked up what a GSD was bred for. It's bred for work! I know a Canadian that has huge herds of sheep free ranging on hundreds of acres. He has two border collies that he sends out as a team to round them up and bring them in to be counted. They'd go out before the sun was up and by mid afternoon they'd have them gathered in a large pen for him. He'd do a head count, open the gate and off they'd go. Imagine the intelligence and duration those dogs have to do that seven days a week! Now take those dogs and put them in an apartment. Yowza! How about the frustrated woman who brought her German Short Haired Pointer in for classes...AKC's website said the breed is "easy to train" so she got one. She's a white collar wife with a young son who lives in a suburban neighborhood. That breed may be easy to train for a hunter or someone that is experienced with independent, strong willed breeds but she was really struggling with him. His energy level, strong personality and tenacity is a requirement for the job he was bred to do but a typical owner will really struggle with this breed. Can we all agree on something right here, right now? Every dog that is in a home, in a shelter, in the show ring, or anywhere else comes from someone that was breeding dogs for a purpose. It may be way back in the dog's pedigree but it's there. Hunting, fighting, chasing, pulling, retrieving, protecting, patrolling, killing...your dog laying at your feet right now has ancestors that did at least one of those tasks very, very well. Those instincts don't disappear when they walk through your front door and become your family pet. There's a reason terriers are tough! Because you have to be a tenacious little shit to go down a hole after a rodent bigger than you knowing you're likely to get bitten. There's a reason you can't get your beagle's nose off the ground during agility classes. Watch a youtube video of beagles in the field! There's a reason your whippet wants to chase every squirrel in the yard. Watch a youtube video of sighthounds lure coursing! There's a reason that cattle dogs go in low and nip anything moving. Watch a youtube video of them working cattle! Here's the kicker...a cattle dog that goes in low and nips is probably the result of someone's responsible breeding. Same with the beagle, the whippet and the border collie. Those are desirable behaviors in each breed. Understanding the propensity of certain behaviors in breeds and mixes will help owners understand where the behavior is coming from. It doesn't mean the dog gets a free pass for the behavior, but someone looking for an agility dog may not want to go with a bloodhound "because I just love their ears" or a herding breed "because I want a dog to lay around all weekend with." All of us in the dog industry, including shelters and rescues, have a responsibility to the dogs we're in charge of and the people that want to add them to their family. We're responsible to educate the uneducated." As a breeder though, It is utterly amazing how so few even seem to read the add. let alone some of the really good articles like this one above. But can always live in hope.
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just click and when it opens keep clicking the sides,.. no idea how many are in the series, haven't found the end yet... n WARNING......... some are coffee spitters...........
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frankly after looking after a friends dogs who were debarked, I agree with Rebanne, they still could bark just it didn't carry far ...didn't worry them at all. So how anyone could say its cruel puzzles me, so many much loved dogs are put down now because so many vets refuse to do it ... seems to me the animal rights nutters have another win at the dogs expense. people today have no tolerance to a barking dog anymore. Another friend had the worst barker I ever knew, he seemed to love the sound of his own voice. didn't have a nervous bone in his body. In his case after being debarked he did get louder and louder over a two year period and being a big dog he really was a noise pain.. the problem of his constant barking was he landed a job at a car yard in an industrial area so no neighbours to complain, but these days there's not much call for that line of work anymore. Good luck. I hope you find a solution
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-18/history-of-modern-dog-breeds-invented-in-victorian-era/11019320 How the Victorians engineered the dog breeds we love today RN By Joey Watson and Ian Coombe for Late Night Live Updated about 11 hours ago Photo: In many instances man created, standardised, and perfected his own best friend. (Unsplash: Mathew Henry) Related Story: The ethics of breeding dogs: to what extent should people play God? Related Story: Dancing dogs star in new show inspired by niche sport 'canine freestyle' The Victorian era gave the world everything from photographs to radio, the bicycle, X-rays and even postage stamps. But perhaps one of its most lasting inventions was one that didn't save lives, advance economies or connect people. It gave us the dogs we love today. Michael Worboys, an emeritus professor at the University of Manchester who has traced the history of dog breeds, says pure-breed pups are products of the industrial revolution. "The changes wrought on dogs in the Victorian era were revolutionary, as was the very adoption of breed as way of thinking about and remaking varieties of dog," he says. "For most of history what dogs did counted more than [how they] looked. "[That was] until the Victorians started to develop competitive dog shows and produced the kind of dogs that we know today." Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume. Audio: Hear more from Michael Worboys on the creation of the modern dog (Late Night Live) Best in show Before the mid-19th century dogs were named for the task they would perform, rather than any defining characteristic. If it retrieved it was a retriever; if it was able to round up sheep it could be called a sheepdog; if it guarded it was a guard dog. "The types of dogs that existed were bred to do particular tasks, like to collect game that had been shot or to protect sheep from wolves," says Professor Worboys, author of The Invention of the Modern Dog. Photo: Dogs were once named for the task they performed — like retrieving. (Unsplash: John Price) That began to change in the 1830s, when the macabre sport of dogfighting was finally outlawed in Britain. Fighting dog breeders suddenly had a surplus of pups, and a horde of gamblers were looking for a new sport to lay their money down on. These circumstances gave rise to the idea of the dog beauty contest, which usually popped up in the bars and clubs of working-class Britain. "What they were looking for was the dogs that looked the most aggressive or that had the most beautiful coat," Professor Worboys says. Vital to these contests was a man named John Henry Walsh. Walsh, a doctor turned sports journalist, organised the first Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Championship in 1877, but also produced a series of books which laid out the rules for all Victorian sports. In the fold was the all-important dog show; the rules accompanied by a series of books that set out the standards for modern dogs. The true English pug, for example, should be "of a fawn colour, devoid of any smut approaching blackness [and] a coat that is sleek, shining and soft to touch". Photo: A greyhound and a pug as pictured in John Henry Walsh's book. (Extract from Dogs of the British Isles) Professor Worboys says the categorisation system was typical of the Victorian era, a period of industrialisation, standardisation and product differentiation. "There were any number of types of dogs around for millennia, but they were only standardised 150 years ago," he says. The classification system, and increasing competition at the dog shows, fuelled a quest to create the purest of the pure-breeds. Why do people want their pets to be Insta-famous? Social media's tendency for canine worship has given rise to a new breed of celebrity dog — what's become known as the pupfluencer? The so-called "top dogs" became commodities, bought, sold and hired out for stud duties, often for very high amounts. Entirely new breeds were also created as breeders began to genetically modify their pups. Through cross-breeding programs, they found they could highlight the most desirable attributes — and sift out undesirable ones. "In the very first edition of Walsh's book on the dog there were 27 types of dog," Professor Worboys says. "By the time you get to 1900 there are 80." Today, according to the Fédération Cynologique Internationale, the international peak body for dog breeders, there are more than 400 recognised breeds of pups. Bringing back the dead Other breeders brought back dogs that had been lost to history. This was the mission of Scotsman George Augustus Graham, who sought to genetically recreate the Irish wolfhound, which had gone extinct around 1720. Photo: George Graham stands proudly with his concocted version of the Irish wolfhound. (Extract from The Invention of the Modern Dog) "To the Victorians, the Irish wolfhound was a beast of legend," Professor Worboys says. "In the mid-19th century Graham travelled around Ireland collected dogs that people said had Irish blood, although they didn't look like the wolfhound." Graham took the dogs back to his estate in Gloucester and tried breeding them. But he had little success — most of his collected pups were infertile or refused to breed — and decided instead to start from scratch. He imported a crop of Scottish deer hounds, said to appear as miniature versions of the Irish wolfhound, and mixed the breed with a great dane to give it some size. Then, a Tibetan mastiff and a boxer were brought into the mix. The resulting mongrel, which bore some resemblance to the illustrations of the lost breed, was called the Irish wolfhound. It has now been embraced as a pure-breed. "Around Dublin the Irish wolfhound is on all the buildings as the as the iconic national Irish dog," Professor Worboys says. "And the current one was invented by an Englishman from Scottish, Danish, Tibetan, and Russian stock." The wolfhound is not alone in its mongrel heritage. The golden retriever was produced by mixing yellow-coloured retriever with a tweed water spaniel, and inbreeding their litter. A matter of fashion Photo: Victorian aristocrats, pictured in a satirical cartoon, became famous for their thirst for new dog types. (Extract from The Invention of the Modern Dog) If the working-class dog show was the birthplace of the dog breed, its cradle was the British aristocracy who began to buy dogs not for retrieving, herding or shows, but personal fashion. "At the end of the century there was a fashion for Russian dogs bought solely to sit of the lap of a lady called lap dogs," Professor Worboys says. "The main thing they wanted was a loving dog that would put up with being carried around in a handbag and eating funny foods and all the rest of it." The idea of breeds also appealed to the socially stratified sensibilities of the upper class who saw themselves, like their dogs, as being the product of a finer genetic lineage. "The upper classes defined themselves as 'dog lovers' who were themselves of the right breeding, to use their parlance," Professor Worboys says. "And if you look at Victorian dog books, they have the pedigrees of dogs laid out in the same way that pedigrees of aristocratic families that were laid out." Dog owners today still covet the pure-breed as the supreme pup. Breeds like the chow chow can fetch up to $10,000 per dog. So next time you pat a royal corgi or throw a ball for a labrador, perhaps spare a thought for those who invented it.
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interesting post on fb today. Especially since this is a purebred ankc dog website and directly impacts all and has done so and continues. " Alison yesterday l looked at all the dogs at Wacol, not one purebred, not one small dog. There were staffie crosses, bull arabs, kelpie crosses, cattle dog crosses - plain to see the breeders of PURE breeds are not the problem! We never have been, yet they crucify us with all the restrictive legislation they put forward to the govt." Photos of some of the dogs listed AND what they should look like. Too much to hope the government will ever realise or learn, pedigree breeders are NOT the problem they have been made out to be for decades.. none of the laws target the real source the millions bred by accident or design that actually fill the pounds. just click on the link and scroll. Even sadder, their real owners would have no chance of finding their dog, ring and say you lost a brindle x bred , will be told, no we only have a boxer here..... and so on for each of these so missnamed dogs breed....
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WA members keep eyes peeled. Distinctive white male miniature schnauzer 5 months old stolen. Microchipped and registered. Not yet sterilised. Valuable champion blood of sought after white line. Family devastated Stealing family members disgusting
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