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this could get interesting? rspca nsw news feeds keep coming up on my facebook page. so asked this question of one of their posts... S Pity rspca failed the sa border collies so badly? killed them all as not rehomable.... all the ones the owner gave to the rescues had no trouble? Reply · 1d 0 RSPCA NSW Hi S, Please see below for RSPCA South Australia's statement and links to the correct information about this case. RSPCA South Australia is concerned about the level of misinformation being published and promoted on social media by certain individuals in regards to an ongoing prosecution case being heard in the Murray Bridge Magistrates Court. The online discussion threatens to negatively impact the legal process. Read more here: https://www.rspcasa.org.au/update-rspca-border-collie.../ Read update on Facebook here: https://rspcansw.org/2MQCKX6 rspcasa.org.au Statement: RSPCA South Australia v Ross & Fitzpatrick Statement: RSPCA South Australia v Ross & Fitzpatrick Reply · 3h 0 S interesting, the wa rescue group believe you sought and received permission to kill all ten? not just 4? I have seen videos of the pens and they were not only very new, clean and far larger than the pens you hve at your facility? are these videos fake? Reply · 38m 0 S correction you are rspca nsw. I meant rspca sa sought and received permission to kill all ten, not just the 4 they did kill.. have you seen the videos? I had no idea that now dogs can be seized on the basis of "chronic mental suffering" or that inspectors are trained to make such findings from video evidence like this one posted? many breeds and border collies are a breed, not crossbreds are described as being (in the case of Lhasa apso's 'chary of strangers" other breeds "wary" or "suspicious" of strangers, is this now to be a valid reason for a dog to now be seized and euthanised? is this now law or in the process of being passed into law that all dogs must respond in a friendly fashion to complete strangers entering their home or be seized and put down? Is it to become law that no breed has the right to be "chary" "wary" or "suspicious" of strangers now or it will be seized and the owner charged?......here is the video. .... somehow I suspect this entire question will now be wiped from this thread rather than being answered, or am I just being suspicious?............here is the video.... your take on what is seen would be appreciated... well if this is answered and not deleted.................https://www.facebook.com/Mark.M.Aldridge.Independent/videos/10157253729924124/ Reply · 17m 0 S I noticed also that if that dog had long toenails her owner could have been charged with neglecting them, in this case the fact the inspector noted they are short is being given as cause of suspicion? so there is another cause for concern, trim their nails and it can be construed the dog is suffering mental issues, leave them long and the dog is suffering neglect, what is the safe length for a dogs toenails then? Also note all seen in that video are in good body condition and coats in good condition

quite a few have noticed too that the incidence of hip displacia for example was never like it became after the emergence of manufactured dog food... I am of the age where you went to the butchers for your dog food. not the pet shop or the corner store. extras other than their meat and bones was the vegetables and scraps from the table. things have changed so much. My grandmothers kelpie lived to 18 few do today, does make you wonder. as for the incidence of cancer both human and canine and feline is incredible now compared to the 50's and 60's The sad story of Red Symonds son and the electric generator beside his home has to make you wonder about our new you beaut mobilephone age. the warnings about what 5g will do is being completly ignored as telstra is rolling it out already. it has been noted that even 3g and 4g are contributing to the demise of migrating insects and birds, bees included as they muck up their direction ability. scary times

tend to agree with the author, they are reading your body language far faster than you are theirs, actually. https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/that-guilty-look-that-your-dog-is-giving-you-isnt-actually-guilt-theyre-scared/?fbclid=IwAR3-EhH-zU-KFbtWYLEbFWAW3zJeXE2ypkt-eV4VPNAXzVehb1xrlzTQH64

what a great summation of the problems https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe?fbclid=IwAR00wfTlZwlrrysVEBgs0IMUzCWwYLhjS36iZZhSZOeXXi_NyFwINWGBeQo

this guy's horse was lucky, he managed to save her and wasnt attacked himself..oops forgot he was bitten on the foot. seems to be a recurring theme here? https://7news.com.au/news/animals/pit-bull-attack-dog-filmed-viciously-biting-horse-on-wollongong-beach-c-164825?fbclid=IwAR1bhQgj3Lk8poOYdULTBuha42eLA62RJ9Cxo4dAFsaM7ZgaBKLxnWUuDRY

yes, we have all been there, just seems so personal you forget it is the same for everyone at the time

I remember when it was disclosed the video of the cattle abuse that animals Australia used to shut down the entire cattle export industry that sent so many farmers bankrupt was found to have been doctored.... the actual ear-tags of the cattle, proving they were Australian were tags from cattle who had actually been slaughtered a week before at another entirely different Australian MLA accredited place, to date no one had been charged..... No idea where this happened but I suspect happens FAR more often than those baying for the end of dairy's etc would have a clue. Marti FarmsLike Page Yesterday at 07:24 · I debated commenting about the Fair Oaks Farms abuse video... Unless you have been living under a rock, you've seen posts or heard people talking about the absolutely horrible animal abuse video that was released from Fair Oaks last week. You've noticed that Fairlife milk has been pulled from some of your favorite grocery stores. Some of you have even watched the video. This whole situation has been a punch in the gut for dairy farmers everywhere. And I needed to say something. Farmers can't just sit quiet and take this. Just like many farms (and businesses in every industry), we hire employees. We do our very best to ensure that we are hiring the best people we can - people who we can trust to care for our animals and our land with the utmost care. Like we would do if we could do it all ourselves. We hire people who have strong work ethic. People who are calm and patient around animals. People who are kind and will work well with others. We hire these people and we train them. We try to instill our values in them and give them all the support and tools they need to do a good job. But at some point, we can't stand over their shoulders anymore. At some point, we have to trust that they are the right people for the job and that our animals and our land are safe in their care. At some point we have to believe that people are (mostly) good and we have to let them do their job. But sometimes, people are not good. Sometimes people suck. The people in the video from Fair Oaks REALLY suck. And make no mistake - there are sucky people in every industry. Not just in dairy farming. There are bad people working in daycares. There are bad teachers working in our schools. There are bad people working in nursing homes. There are bad priests and bad doctors and bad mechanics. But just like we wouldn't condemn an entire hospital for the actions of a bad doctor on staff, or an entire school for the bad decisions of a teacher, we can't condemn an entire dairy industry (or even an entire farm) for the actions of bad employees. And this situation is even more crooked than that - the activists who are supposedly so concerned about the welfare of animals participated in this abuse, filmed it, and then sat on the video until (coincidentally - or not...) June Dairy Month. :/ What they don't tell you is that other employees at Fair Oaks Farms reported these employees for abuse MONTHS ago and the employees were terminated immediately - long before anyone knew anything about the video. Animals should not be abused - ever - and I hope that those responsible for the mistreatment of the animals in the video are prosecuted. But please do not think that that video is representative of dairy farms everywhere - or even of THAT dairy farm. This was a calculated attack by bad people. There have been several well-written responses to this video online, and I've linked you up to a few of them. Please take a few minutes to read/watch them if you have any questions about the video or the fallout or what happens next. In the meantime, our family stands with Fair Oaks and we will continue buying Fairlife milk and other dairy products and supporting dairy farmers everywhere. We will not let the activists win. ▪️Initial response from Fair Oaks Farms: https://www.facebook.com/FOFarms/posts/10156818467445971… ▪️Post by Dairy Carrie about hiring employees and the need for trust: https://www.facebook.com/…/a.52303688439…/2462210663809631/… ▪️Farm Babe's take on animal activists: https://www.facebook.com/IowaFarmBabe/videos/466978137453252/ ▪️Post from My Other More Exciting Self - highlighting the "other side" of the story: http://www.myothermoreexcitingself.com/…/the-fair-oaks-fa…/… ▪️ Message from Dr. Mike McCloskey regarding changes being made at Fair Oaks Farms: https://www.facebook.com/…/UzpfSTI1MzQxOTMyMTM1NTQ1NDoyNDY…/ 1 comment Comments M M C I read up on it when this first came out and it’s very sad for the farm. From what I read, the employees were actually undercover to find some abuse. When there wasn’t any after a long period of time, they made their own abuse to film.

Red and HowlingLike Page Yesterday at 06:28 · It's World Pet Memorial Day! A big hug and much love to all of you who have had to say goodbye to your beloved non-human family members (I often say "fur kids", but many of you have horses, birds, pigs, goats, spiders, reptiles, furless dogs and cats and I want to be all inclusive!). And remember when you lose a pet, take care of yourself, too. Surround yourself with those who truly understand what you are going through. You've lost a child, a member of your family and it takes lots of time to heal. Grief isn't a straight road with predictable patterns and a finite timeline. We all grieve differently and we all need different things. I recenlty opened a little box that contains a lock of my beloved Pepito's fur and I burst into tears. He's been gone 14 years. I don't think we fully recover from these tragic losses, we simply find a place to put them, so we can go on. It helps me to talk to my babies who have past and on a day like today, I like to light a candle in their memory. I'm surrounded by their happy photos, so they are always with me. Please share your photos, stories, and what you do to honor the memory of your babies. Also, I'd love to know some of the things that have helped you cope with your loss. xoAmy —beautiful music by my hubby.

Not sure if any here have seen the headlines... interesting letter now doing the rounds of facebook Coalition For the Protection of Racehorses - ExposedLike Page 18 hrs · AN OPEN LETTER TO PETA Dear PETA Australia, Congratulations on hitting the headlines again with your most recent social media beat up about a "half-brother" of Winx being slaughtered for meat in South Korea. It must have been exciting to see so many media outlets running the story without question, despite your organisations long history of false claims, media manipulation and tacky stunts. Writing a letter to the author of the Winx biography was pure marketing genius, and a fantastic example of your organisations dedicated and determined focus on seeking attention, not for the animals, but for yourselves. We were particularly impressed with the deception of the claim "the slaughter of 3,000 Australian horses and their offspring in South Korea", despite only 158 horses being exported from Australia in the last 5 years, and only 12 of these confirmed to have been killed. Counting breeding horses from Australia since 1970 and their offspring, and their offspring's offspring all born in South Korea down the line was a great way to produce a massively misleading statistic. We are also impressed with the claim on your website that "few racehorses are retired to pastures", despite several independent studies showing there are well over 100,000 ex-racehorses in Australia and they are the most common domestic breed. We have to admire your dedicated team of publicity seeking attention activists. There is no doubt that you have managed to make PETA the leading professional trolling organisation in the world. Those fake news, election manipulating Russians must be very, very jealous indeed. There are just so many examples of your magnificent work it is hard to pick a favourite. The bloodied fake rubber lambs in videos, campaigning to ban petting zoos, suggesting that the band Hunters and Collectors change their name, or that we change animal sayings, or attacking the deceased Steve Irwin, there is truly nothing PETA won't say or do to get a reaction or publicity for themselves. It is great that you don't allow credibility to get in the way of self promotion, and you are truly world leaders in how to turn social media trolling into a lucrative and profitable business model. So thank you PETA. Without you, where would we turn to for gimmicks and internet stunts. Lazy journalists the world over thank you for raising "awareness" of yourselves. Just one thing though. Remember us animals? There is a drought on and we can't eat social media likes. Awareness doesn't keep us warm. So, just wondering, any chance we could see some of the $1.8 million in donation revenue you received last year? Maybe you could spare part of that $1 million spent on mail outs for a bale of hay? Or the $350,000 spent on consultancy? The term "animal welfare" seems to be strangely missing from your expenditure list and us animals are getting very confused. Kind regards The Animals CC Animals Australia

it is the luck of the draw, one year or twenty. yes some do make it to such incredible ages, although both were chihuhua's, one even celebrated her 21St. my grandmothers boy was 18, but he was a kelpie, another breed known for longlivativy, well long as they dont play chicken with cars. Best of luck if you do decide to take the plunge again,

That is why I have always preferred purebreds, you know what you are getting, If I want a non shedding, i adore the poodle. One friend loves her bichon's for the same reason. I do tend to worry about the oodles in that the people who buy then think they are getting non shedding, but a percentage do shed and on top of that they, like their poodle side must be constantly groomed and clipped or the dog suffers. trouble is after the fashion for anthropomorphism of our dogs began, everyone jumped onto the bandwagon, breeders included. Sounds cute to call them your fur child, whats the harm? We all do it, but we do need to remember they are dogs, What also began was the hunt to 'eliminate' puppy farmers and backyard breeders. Trouble was it was the same in the 70's as now. Unless you live in an apartment with no backyard then you like any accused witch in the past can be labeled a backyard breeder and puppy farmer. We are lucky the accused cant be dunked until they drown or burned at the stake if they didn't drown, (was neat, eliminated the accused regardless, if they drowned they were innocent, but if they survived the dunking proved guilty because only a witch would survive underwater, so then burned at the stake) https://www.thesprucepets.com/anthropomorphism-1118402 His comments about fireworks is interesting, my sons dogs are petrified of the local fireworks, I was babysitting them that night, took them inside and turned on the tv. on the tv was what? the fireworks.... they took one look at me happily watching the screen and and sounds and curled up and went to sleep. ignoring the racket outside. seems the enthusiasm for witch hunts still exists today. Many ankc members firmly believe only the pure of heart. the new word today is "ethical" although some add "responsible" only breed to replace for the next generation. No breeding for others to have a pet or begin a new kennel. Any surplus to their needs litter mates are either steralised or desexed before being "rehomed" or "adopted" to new homes. Proud dead end kennels. so anyone who does not adhere to that belief is hounded mercilessly, doesnt matter if they are a member of their breed club, are on the committee and work tirelessly for their breed, once accused there is no mercy. Watched it happen over and over and over for decades now. The purges have been so successful even blind freddy can now see the ankc members are imploding their own registry..... but they are pure..... have to eliminate the impure.... who cares if as a result the very breeds they love are heading for extinction? the figures are increasingly proving their success. but the pure at heart are blind to the repercussions I am lucky I was a member when people saw the best in others, not the worst. Even though the ankc's know their member base was the very people being hounded out, pensioners who bred their puppies to supplement their meager pension... (there was survey done in the 80's or 90's, forget the year. 90% of new members didn't last 5 years, the long term 10 years or more were the pensioners. ) So even though they knew that most new members lost interest within 2 to 5 years they said nothing when the push to make it harder and harder for a newbie to become a registered breeder? The attrition rate is still the same. But the number who make it though to apply for a prefix is a faction of the number who could before.... that is tens of thousands less members and in membership fees the ankc's do not get anymore. and the shrinking numbers of members is easily checked for yourself. When you realise how many millions more Australians there are who could become members but there are no puppies available for them, it is a tragic loss to the hobby. but am I the only one who thinks that?

my vet hated puppy farms and was all for having them shut down, now he said he has come to realise that without puppy farms and backyard breeders, 90% of people would not be able to find a puppy now the ankc breeders are on the main either not breeding, or only one or two litters a year. any ankc breeder who does breed more than one or two litters a year is hounded until they too give up. its the kiss of death to speak up and say I do not back those members who believe no one should be breeding more than three litters at most... (to me this is not being "ethical" its being selfish and only looking after your kennel... it is almost impossible for newbies to get a main register pup or dog to found their own kennel and become a registered breeder.. now the majority are dead end kennels and proud of it.) friend used to breed cavaliers, she had a neighbours poodle get to one of her girls and she had over 30 calls for each pup? She had also done the unconscionable, (to the minds of fellow breeders, even though all her dogs were dna profiled, mri scanned etc) bred ten litters the year before and the number of visits by the rspca was becoming fortnightly. now she breeds cavoodles and made so much money they paid for her first home (she had been renting acreage) which was an ex greyhound breeder, 7 acres and 120 luxury kennels, heated beds even, now has two homes on acreage? now negotiating to buy a 3rd and rent two of them, isn't even 40 and could retire if she wanted? she never has to advertise, she said word of mouth has more phone calls than puppies available. More remarkable, never had a visit from the rspca since she ceased to be an ankc member? doubt it? The garden gnome certainly had a lot to do with the promoting of the xbred, no idea why since he has purebreds himself? I have put this up before, until the ankc's stop assuming shutting down breeding our purebred dogs is the only way to reduce the filling the pounds, its only going to continue be downhill for purebreds and membership numbers.. Although I doubt it is possible for the mindset to change now, all my long term member friends are questioning why continue http://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf

my vet believes if more people titre tested then the price would come down. at present it is way more expensive than vaccination. the catch being if you opt for vaccination booster and your pet reacts then as my daughters friend discovered, it cost $7000 to save her cat after his 3rd bad reaction, the first time it cost $2,500 to save him, second time it cost $3,000 to save him. curiously his vet didn't seem to realise perhaps vaccinating a now 18 year old cat after the previous two life threatening events might have been triggered by the annual booster they had been giving him?

actually they rarely get publicity, well remember a bad batch of kitten vaccine killed over 300 before it was recalled. in the case of my litter it killed 8 out of 9 and the vet kept the survivor in lieu of the thousands he was going to charge me for saving her, at no time did he advise me it was not a fluke all mine died. only found out when a friend who worked there at the vaccine supplier told me how many reports of fatalities before the batch was recalled, so the manufacturer did not tell my vet or he chose not to tell me. No idea if my kittens vet reported their deaths and bet even if he did bet he was not told how many had died all up before the recalled that batch. because i didnt find out until over a year afterwards I had no way of sueing them for the deaths of my kittens and they were worth over 2,000 each so I lost $18,000 as everyone of them already had deposits on them... nope they sure do not take responsibility, nor do our vets advise us either, in fact they charge US to save our pets that are affected, not the drug company... think on that next time it happens N I havent forgotten the litter of 4 beautiful chihuahua puppies all dead within hours of my vets locum overdosed them. Yes he was fired, but even those vets have to carrry insurance, (no idea why) certainly was not offered compensation for four irreplaceable puppies. I am always very aware that when I take mine in for vaccinations, any that die are my loss and no one elses.

Yes the puppies began dying in the 80's and the company concerned told me that the puppies that die are just cleansing the breed of the weak lines. found far less reactions using Canvac and no I never use any but c3 for that very reason

my vet told me over 15 years ago annual vaccinations are not necessary yes they sure can be at risk, one of mine had his immune system collapse after his second puppy vaccination, to the extent his body couldn't even deal with his own skin microflora, had to be given low dose Ivermec for the rest of his life or he would lose his hair and skin go intense red and itchy otherwise. otherewise known as Demodectic mange

yes, still laughing. but hey, dont assume they won't down the track, we aren't governed by sanity anymore are we

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that would have been terrible. Knowing quite a few boxers from friends, theirs are the ever Peter Pan puppies, never grow up, well mentally anyway. mine actually should never have been serious. like your boy my dog was innocent, in his case of having any health issues, the serious part was not even his own vet was believed, just stole him and when the inspectors first assumption of mange (mind you he had NO symptoms of mange, no bare or thickened skin, just short coat along the top of his tail and back) when the tests for scarptopic and demadectic mange were clear, still kept him and tested him for 13 days to find something, anything chargable. so glad they didn't take him and was honest enough to at least say no its not him and left. If he hadn't, you have no avenue of appeal except through the courts and that can take years and every penny you can scrape up. The really bad part is now its law they can euthanise the dog on the gounds that to be locked up for so long will cause suffering, (in victoria the CEO has publicly stated their present facilities are unsuitable for long term stay, (they are a fraction of the size of the kennels the Border Collies were taken from in S.A, and then locked in equally tiny and dark kennels for over 4 months?) while the court process grinds through now. that is all I have ever asked be implemented, despite the attacks of hating them, mentally unstable etc. We are so lucky our law makers have not decided yet to declare the human race legally sentient.

think the real danger is now this has been legislated it is not just dogs "who never go for walks and spend their lives on chains" that will be seized and the owner charged. whatever made you think "the RSPCA says they can not do anything about it because it is legal" have you read the thread about the ten border collies taken in S.A. ? the had the textbook, big, yards, excellent condition and grooming. Dogs and yards, Clean as a pin. But the rspca took them anyway, because they didn't come when called by the inspector, who decided they were "mentally traumatised" 9 of the ten either already had a litter or were pregnant, one was a male I understand. The rspca had them for months, raised and sold the puppies, aside from one litter they euthanised because at two weeks they decided the puppies were "not sufficiently socialised"? I know a number of breeders were puzzled by that as at that age their eyes are just opening and that is when a breeder begins to do what? Socalise the puppies, they dont come to you, you go to them, let them sniff and get used to your scent and they begin to play with you. but, they obviously know more than anyone else. So many breeds are "suspicious of strangers" many have it even written in the breed standard! But now if your dog will not go to, or interact with an rspca inspector in a friendly way your sentient does not have that right to decide no. the sentient being can now be legally classified as "suffering mental trauma" even sadder, now grounds for euthanising it. Because it is suffering and cannot be safely retrained or rehomed. After the puppies were sold they applied for a court order to euthanise all ten and were granted , they then also asked for a court order to seize and eutheranise all the owners other dogs on the grounds they too were mentally traumatised... they lost out on that because unknown to them, the owner had realised the danger the other dogs were in and by all the press and media released by the rescue groups. they were given to rescues who successfully rehomed all the dogs the court had passed the seize and euthanasia application. far as I know the law you put up is the first, dont know of it being law in S.A. yet they dogs were taken because they were "mentally suffering" sure sounds like the sentinent card being played.

do not intend to. they can look at them if want to on the link and if they say its euthanasia then why should I not quote them? They are the experts remember. They are the ones our politicians are asking how to draft legislation. seems the badge makes all the difference. Perhaps instead of hiring slaughter people at abbotiors they should be hiring special constables and then not only RSPCA approved but also euthanised . the demonstrators wouldn't have a leg to stand on then and no more shut downs surely? none of the animals shot were aged or sick, nor intended to be eaten. as for the drugs they only look a peaceful end because among the mix is the key ingredient that does the peaceful look.. totally paralyses all the muscles so no tremors to be seen. leave that out, they are dead just as swiftly my vet assured me. but he was short that one ingredient that day. the difference was heartbreaking for me no matter how much he assured me she really was dead and no longer suffering. she twitched and her body struggled to breathe for what seemed like forever, still have nighmares.. its all in the presentation He assured me continually, she never suffered and was gone.

on another note. interesting read ankc site this morning It's okay, he's friendly 23 April · The fall of the dog. During the Victorian era, the notion of dogs as household pets emerged. They became synonymous with family life. In the last few decades, they were burdened with the task of being a mini human trapped inside a dog's body. As such, effective tools are now viewed as cruel. Pretty much everything is cruel to dogs currently. Unless you're plying them with food, affection, toys and entertainment, they're probably abused. Slip lead? Cruel. Prong collars? Cruel. Ecollar? Cruel. Physical correction with hand? Cruel. Bonker? Cruel. Spatial pressure? Cruel. Expecting dog to obey and conform? Cruel. I know thousands of dog owners online who are all struggling with one or more of these: reactivity, aggression, stubborn behaviour, excitement, humping, resource guarding, livestock worrying, stealing food, pulling and dragging owner on walk, digging holes, barking, escaping, nipping, fence fighting, anxiety, fear, nervousness, over excitement etc. They're usually very far from achieving resolution. I believe they will mostly never find solutions. Because the solutions they're given need lots and lots and lots of time, energy and effort. If you're employed, raising children, not in excellent health, do anything but train dogs for a living... you're not going to resolve many serious behaviour issues with one hour of training a day. Thankfully the tranquillisers, anti depressants, CBD oil and pheromone collars might subdue the dog artificially. Ultimately though, these dogs will typically be chaotic and hard to handle outdoors. The dog used to be viewed as vermin, or useful for real life problem solving eg pest control, guarding, helping to hunt, pull carts or track scents. Slowly slowly, his status altered to domestic pet. He often lived outdoors, was chained, or lived indoors without being humanised to the level of toddler. Now, of course, as we approach the height of this destructive thinking, we see that all forms of correction are all bad. I just read some drivel in psychologytoday that tried to pass off a sham piece of student research as a genuine work. The work of an undergraduate en route to acquiring a masters degree at a low ranked 'university'. The funny little dissertation research was scaffolded by the academic comedy of Victoria Stilwell, Jean Donaldson, studies from 1908 involving... mice, and plenty of very old studies from psychology journals. Despite using heavy bias and deceit, the conclusion was paraded like the Emperor's New Clothes: Hear ye hear ye! The guardians of the dog hereby herald that saying NO to a dog or indicating error to a dog when training a new behaviour is bad. It renders the dog unable to perform anywhere near the ability of a dog who's ONLY given praise and reward. So yes, saying NO is also cruel. Everything is cyclical in life. Nothing ever lasts. Sanity vanished and left in its place emotional hysteria and academic fraud. But the dog who is a predator, continues to struggle to understand why he's so useless, frustrated, bored, misunderstood and having to lead his owner minute by minute. Leading his owner on walks, initiating interaction, having to defend his belongings and space from his owner and others and generally take charge. It's a lot for a baby or toddler in dog fur to cope with. The fur babies are therefore becoming more and more erratic. Their fur moms are even more upset. Emotion layered over emotion. Dog attacks in the UK have increased despite BSL. How many sheep attacks have you read about just this year alone? How many harrowing reports of children being savaged by fur babies have you read about? Heard about fur babies attacking lots of other fur babies too? Heard about the off lead fur babies constantly harassing leashed fur babies? The dog is slowly but surely returning to his much earlier status of vermin. He will once again be the scary, unpredictable and avoided figure he used to be. Don't believe me? Visit all the dog reactivity, enrichment, training, appreciation and fan groups. The same stories over and over again. Thousands and thousands of worn out owners who can't understand why fur baby Rover is so unreasonable. Owners who are returning or rehoming their fur babies. Owners who are having them killed. Owners who live with several fur babies all living in separate rooms. Owners whose fur babies are aggressive to their human babies. The dog was elevated to the status of fur human and is en route back to his old status as that animal you avoided. L W Sorry. I think it’s BS. I trained the Old way with a correction chain and I was very good at it. My dogs received lots of obedience titles and they looked pretty miserable doing it. I changed to clicker training and raised my dogs the same, no force, just trust and respect and clear expectations and boundaries. And guess what. My clicker trained dogs are just as obedient, have more titles and love what they do. Good trainers/owners have good dogs. Poor owners and trainers have poorly behaved dogs. Same goes for kids. You don’t need to be abusive to have trust and respect and don’t blame the methods or tools. I’m sure these people who had poorly behaved dogs existed, there was no Facebook forums for them to be on. Hell we had a dog when I grew up as a kid that bit both my siblings and the neighbor. But nobody cared back them and that’s just what dogs did.

you have missed a bit, when the rspca shot Ruth downeys cattle, they "euthanised" them. when the rspca chap shot the 175 Murry Grey cattle he "euthanised" them. When they shoot them they still say they "euthanised" them. It does not necessarily mean a dose of green dream as so many assume. so when the abattoir stuns and kills the animals there, they too were "euthanised" its just the sanitary word for killing them. Yet we constantly hear how cruel the knackery is for shooting the horses and cattle they "euthanise" in exactly the same manner and the two rspca inspectors "euthanised" ruths and the murray gray studs cattle? The big difference being, Knackery's kill them in a crate with one shot to the head, that is law..... many of Ruths were gut shot first as they ran through a 12 foot gate and finished off with up to 2 more shots..(try it some time, its incredibly hard to do a single to the head shot as they run through a gate).. If you did that you would be charged, because its illegal to do so. If you did that its not called "euthanised" it is called aggravated cruelty? cant figure how to down load the photo. but page 25 is him standing at the gate shooting them, the black cow is going down after he fired. oops "euthanised" her...... just scroll to the page... dont read the story. too upsetting. The writer couldn't keep himself to just the facts. so very over emotional writing. https://cairnsnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/the-ruth-downey-inquisition-1.pdf page 26 is taken of him "finishing her off" ooops............ I mean "euthanising" her for the second time. So lucky cows aren't sentient isn't she?

Interesting radio interview http://www.faithfulradio.com/_Media/brain-edward-telephone.mp3?fbclid=IwAR10kK52fjNWIgDkz0h3TH2E0YOeh0FizBmzZnTHKLYNviW14w0ctwkXTks Please share this interview with the #animalwelfarecommunity Here the written account of everything with evidence & exhibitions added. If you have any questions about all presented feel free to ask as we've nothing to hide but have plenty to state that addressing & fixing. Hopefully this should open some ears & eye's to help this along. Remarkable, usually the media dont want to know............... in any way or form.... yet this lady interviewer seems to know of many more instances and said she she going to air more?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2019/05/16/norwich-terrier-french-bulldog-breathing-problems-genetic/?fbclid=IwAR0u2IHpjP_nRwJ_PJA6GyS09825bmaMHK65GwZRSfgTQgWNrYIusiTLTXY#.XOOuEcgzaUn