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in every instance I have seen a pup affected by the seizures, (in pups I had warned the new owners this product can cause seizures and or kill their pup) { In every pup affected there was just one dose . not overdosed as described in the experimental research} The vets who recommended it has in every instance told the owner the parents of the pup must have passed on epilepsy and to bill the breeder and demand a refund of the price of the "defective pup". none have admitted the drug is the cause .
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Choose your breeder very carefully.
asal replied to Dogs are family's topic in General Dog Discussion
I am sure if you had applied to the tribunal, cant remember what its called but there is an ombudsman you can appeal to hear the case and make a ruling. that breeder would have had to give you your money back. I have been breeding since 1979 and a deposit is just that. Honestly no breeder I know would tell you the deposit is not refundable if circumstances caused you to change your mind. Well I would and so would my friends, its just a deposit of good faith to hold the pup until ready to pick up. ALSO never pay a deposit on an unborn pup, nor should you pay a deposit on a puppy under 4 weeks so much can go wrong under that age. Although I have had some so want to put a deposit on one under 4 weeks in which case they seem happy with a 50 refundable. but if for any reason you cannot go through with the purchase the only caveat I put is I will return the refund when the pup has been sold, as usually u have spent most of available funds raising them . Not one of us would want a puppy to go to someone who has for whatever reason no longer wants it....... As for a puppy that died, unreal, money back on the spot -
Dogs in Geraldton suspected to have died from poisoning in their own yards
asal replied to Redsonic's topic in In The News
Used to be a problem when I was a kid. every now and then some one would bait all the dogs in the neighbourhood. whoever it was would throw the baits over the fences. only way to protect them was teach them never to eat anything we didn't give them. cant remember what dad used but would put whatever inside pieces of meat with gloves on and get someone else to throw over the fence, whatever it was must have tasted awful because they never touched anything thrown over the fence again.- 1 reply
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Choose your breeder very carefully.
asal replied to Dogs are family's topic in General Dog Discussion
Another friend was told by the new owner the puppy needed $7,000 surgery for luxating elbows??????? Either transfer the money now to their vet or face court action! Luckily the op hadn't yet been done, told her to demand the puppy be presented to her for for 2nd opinion. Result, puppy found to have had both elbowed fractured! Turned out they had let a 6 month old Labrador puppy jump off a veranda 8 feet to the ground! Although the distress caused to my friend by the owner and her family even after they learned the damage was NOT inherited or her fault. Meant she never bred another litter. Just couldn't cope with the distress caused or the abuse she received before the truth came out. -
Choose your breeder very carefully.
asal replied to Dogs are family's topic in General Dog Discussion
Very true, my vet once said, considering all the things that can go wrong from conception when one cell is dividing into millions to create a puppy the miracle is so few go wrong and so many turn out fine. As well the puppy CAN be perfect, but if the new owners vet needs money, guess what? 16 week puppy their vet says might need operation for luxating patella both legs then says at six months needs operated on now, and the idiot buyer doesn't call me or the vet who vaccinated it at 12 weeks, to ask didn't my vet pick up on any problems with the patella's? Gives their vet the go ahead AND after the op hits me with the vet bill? No competent vet would operate on a puppy that young let alone one my vet had examined at six and 12 weeks and had perfect patella's (I had intended to keep her, but decided to let the buyer have her as she had lost her dog to an accident and very distressed, So let her have her since it was the mums first litter, So could keep one from the next litter for myself. My vets comment at the time, was "I bet he had a payment due on his new car." -
Yes I had a almost 7 foot brown kill 4 of my dogs who tore him/her apart. the wires guy said a snake that size would be afraid of nothing and wanted the dogs water
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the words are "Tuesday night he turned on the owner's 39-year-old sister and 42-year-old brother." I have a friend with Shar Pei. when I visit the first thing she does is put them in their enclosure. they are guard dogs and bred for fighting. oddly enough the same can for said for pit u know whats. it did not attack the owner. how many decades are we going to read this before people do what my friend always does. locks her's up when visitors come. problem solved. "the deed" cant happen at my friends places. odd that? the way some of them look at visitors, I have no doubt I would not enter before they went into their enclosure.
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at six weeks any puppies bones and ligaments are so pliable he could have diagnosed the whole litter with a push in the right place you haven't a real clue until they have finished growing and that's more like at 10 to 14 months depending on breed, my vets opinion any vet who wants to do the op before they are 14 months needs the money to pay off the new 4 wd. keep the weight off and many never need and op either well remember looking after a friends Australian champion bitch, as she was running occasionally she would stick her hind leg out behind her. do a few hops and working normally again. took her to my vet and yep she had luxating patella but as he said. no need for an op. she has figured how to pop it back in herself. did wonder how any judge could award challenge points to a dog who could lock up right in front of you?
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similar story for a cattledog, had bitten their child. vet put it down as requested. as he picked the body up his arm was cut as its head lolled over his arm? examination revealed a broken off pencil rammed into the dogs ear many times there was a reason
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think we all know its a darned miracle he didn't die over night
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which is exactly what I tried to do. but unfortunately I now know she is as traumatised if not more than her dog. which I didn't realise she was incapable of understanding how important it was she get him help immediately. Also she didn't tell me how injured she was from trying to hold him and prevent them dragging him away. She still hasn't taken herself to a doctor. didn't go to another vet or seek the help I told her he needed now to help him immediately. I now know she just did not absorb how important it was, she act immediately. Because she could not see how badly he was bitten because his fur hid all the tooth holes she didn't believe me how injured he had to be underneath, out of her vision. She didn't make the vet appointment until the next day and the throat began to weep. I did really try to make her understand how important immediate treatment was needed as all bites would become infected. By the time the tablets the vet gave her began to work he was leaking fluid and pus like a sieve and she finally realised the extent of his injuries and skin began to die. I dont think even that vet did either. she lives far away from me so could only give advice over the phone. I deliberately did not tell her how close he was to being torn apart in front of her or the extent I suspect his injuries probably were as I didn't want to freak her out. maybe i under played the importance? I dont know. I sure did expect any competent vet would have done a way better job of assessing his damage than that vet ?
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thanks, I've sent her the link
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friend walked out of her front door, locked it then before she could take a step her dog was attacked by two pb's, a dog and a bitch. the male grabbed his face and throat, the female his side and they tried to drag him off. Lucky he was on his lead and she had her walking stick and did try to drive them away but she is very disabled (aka, most are in a wheel chair with her disabilities.) Fortunately she kept screaming for help and the owner of the male grabbed him and locked him in her car, then grabbed the female. She has rope burns from holding the lead and other injuries. Her dog has extensive injuries but not fatal unless infection gets away we hope. there are many tooth holes leaking fluid but his trachea is intact and he can swallow. I told her to ask the vet she went to to ask about pain medication as well as anti anxiety medication to help him cope with the trauma, but the vet refused. Didn't even want to give antibiotic injection? only willing to supply antibiotic tablets? its week 2 now and he is a mental mess. Terrified to leave the house. terrified in the car the second he sees or hears dogs. he is her support dog and goes everywhere with her, workplace included. She cannot cope to leave him at home which is where he wants to stay now. Has anyone had experience with how to proceed after an attack like this? to get him coping with leaving the house and getting to the car. Or how to make it safer from a future attack?
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friend visiting another friend , her dog was on leash but the second it saw the chooks it took off so fast the owner was flat on her face in a split second. lucky the chooks were safe behind the fence. as for the dogs owner gee it was a hard fall. tried to say she tripped. nup her dog yanked her clean off her feet. lucky the chooks were locked up or it would have been a massacre it wasn't a big dog, only medium sized . so does not need to be big to pull someone over if they take off fast enough
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huge floppy ears, wire looking coat no cattledog in that pup. long from elbow to foot? no daschund either
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Remarkable story below. what really amazed me was this lady's generosity to ensure the highest chance of preserving the discovery. Cooperation so lacking in dog breeders, hence the ever reducing gene pool. hopefully dog people will learn to co operate for the good of their breeds instead of the present dead end philosophy so in evidence. " Over the last few years I have received private messages from a reasonably high profile member of this amazing group, administered by the honourable, patient, kind and knowledgeable Robyn Riley. Sadly these PMs do not follow her positive example. So I just want to clarify the circumstances surrounding the arising and furthering of the “fawn” mutation. In 2014 a pair of our pieds produced a light coloured chick. I was pretty sure from an early stage it was a female. As she grew she stayed this fawny-grey colour. Eventually her existence became public. We left the pair who had produced her together but there was no further indication of another mutated individual. I had always assumed from my genetics in zoology at uni that when she was ready to breed we should put her back to her father but Craig Mcfawn advised us to put her to the nicest reverse pied we could find; it turned out that he had only glanced at the pic I sent and thought she could be a white-eyed bird. Anyway, we had a lovely reverse pied of the same age, that we had bred and she had been raised with him, even though he was from a different clutch. We also had the fawn’s father as backup. As it turned out this naughty reverse pied boy, when we moved them into a bigger pen, became adolescent territorial and aggressive and gave her a hard time. We removed him and tried again but the same thing happened, so we then put her father in with her. The first year they bred and Robyn Riley took the plunge and bought all of the progeny plus one stunning reverse pied that I couldn’t guarantee was from that pair. We were very happy to disperse the genes so to speak because we felt that if there was a disaster of any kind ie bushfires or has happened one year we had ILT here all would not be lost. There were no mutation's produced that season, so we thought we would leave her another year with the father. The next year there were no obvious mutations either but we continued to disperse the progeny for the same reasons; more so because we had had a number of seriously scary fire years, including one where the firebreak south of the river that borders our place was bulldozed in the middle of the night to stop the fire heading further south to Mansfield. We were north of the river and directly in the fire’s path. Meanwhile fawn females started to appear for the various breeders to whom we had sent progeny, so the gene was carried by the males, sons of our fawn girl, and then appeared in their female progeny. The race was on then to breed a male of whatever colour he would turn out to be. As it turned out, apart from the fact that the lovely reverse pied bird would not have a bar of the fawn girl, it would not have mattered to which male we put her, because it was a one-off chance mutation, nothing to do with her father. Meanwhile, even though Blondie, as I call her, is now over 9 years old and has laid eggs without shells for the last many years but has always been a well bird, there seemed to be a difficulty with the fawn females, in that some were going blind. No-one was quite sure why. The Perrins and others did a lot of research and believed that if you crossed the fawns with Spaldings that that may alleviate the problem. They are taking the long way around and putting a lot of work into that program. There are now females and immature males on the ground and it will remain to be seen what they turn out like. We are ever grateful to Robyn for having faith in the first place and the Perrins and Munzels for their help and generosity. We are so glad we dispersed the genes over the years too, and we are pleased that the fawns are in enough safe hands. As we have had a couple of health scares we have dispersed our flock except for Blondie, who is not breeding anyway. All reactions: 43, Mandy Etherton and 41 others " A spalding is a cross between green and blue . Could be argued if some have developed blindness maybe let it die out. Although now 9 years later I know people with this colour and no eye problems although all of theirs has some spalding in them, so has been eliminated whatever the cause. I only like the normal coloured. but impressed with the way this lady preserved that one fluke mutation by sharing.
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there is no mention the missing staffie pup was an amstaff, two different breeds. blue is quite common in english staffies always has been. Actually the puppy in the photos is a brindle so a blue brindle would be quite easy to see the blue. "Red, fawn, white, black or blue, or any one of these colours with white. Any shade of brindle or any shade of brindle with white. Black and tan or liver colour highly undesirable."
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Blue and blue fawn/sable has been a very common colour in English staffies for decades. also very common in chihuahua's. as is chocolate and chocolate fawn/sable. If its only fawn the blue hasn't much to show up on aside from the blue nose and eye riims with lighter eyes and ruby pupil's, if it has sable ticking then all the hair tips will be blue with the fawn underneath as blue can only dilute black skin and hair. Same with the chocolate gene, black dog becomes chocolate, fawn only nose and eye rims is chocolate, sable ticked the tips are chocolate instead of black.
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Why Vets Are Burning Out and Leaving the Industry. ABC News 24 May 2023
asal replied to Deeds's topic in In The News
the disgusting part is so many of the very politicians who ended free uni education were themselves beneficiaries of their free university degrees. -
that is the year she was campaigning for the 2019 election that saw her elected as a representative for AJP. SO member of Peta and AJP. So many assume she is no longer a member of peta
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Update: Vet Condemns Couples Outrage Over $37,000 Vet Bill
asal replied to Deeds's topic in In The News
lost me when the poor darling had to sell some of her handbags to cover the cost. like are u for real?????? -
Yes I know, soon as I saw it realised, its gold. so many gullible's think she was only part of peta 20 years ago
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Update: Vet Condemns Couples Outrage Over $37,000 Vet Bill
asal replied to Deeds's topic in In The News
many vets these days simply assure the frantic owners "i will do all I can". and unless they ask they will not be given a quote for possible costs. then when its dies, are assured "Remember you know you did all you can for your pet" then get the bill. seen it so often. In the case of my filly, I had realised soon as I unloaded her she had given up and asked for her to be put down but he would not go off his assurance patter "am sure I can save her if you let me, at least let me try" and kept it up until I agreed. 35 minutes later ask my permission to put her down as she had collapsed and then hands me a bill for 1800 ? 800 of that was for supposedly administering 10 litres of Hartmans ? he had hooked it up but she collapsed 14 minutes later?????? no way can you infuse 10 litres in 15 minutes! leaving me wondering how much was the rest of the bill padded. be very careful with some, me! never used that practice again