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the incompetence of some so called vets is almost beyond belief , I know many amazing vets and they just shake their heads at what some do. never forget a friend who was told she was expect to pay 7,000 for surgery to both the elbows of a pup she had given away to a "friend"? The vet they took the limping pup too said it had elbow dysplasia and the breeder should pay for the surgery. she rang me horrified and I advised her to demand a second opinion from her vet. who confirmed it had both front legs fractured at the elbows and discovered from one of the children she had jumped from the verandah and fell ten feet to the ground,landing on her feet and had done it not once but twice the day she began limping, this was a eight months old pup and she was so fat she weighed more than her mother?

Yes, the breeder should have told you and then you could decide if you still want the puppy. Ah they did tell you but only when you picked her up? not fair. Even if the breeder missed realising the vaccinating vet should have seen it when doing the vet check. Have to admit I knew one breeder whose vet did not check the teeth yet it is the breeder held responsible for anything the vet did miss. I know my vet checks them minutely, eyes, teeth, patella, legs , testes for the boys and hernias, anything noted goes onto the vaccination card so no one can forget which puppy it is that something was spotted. For every vaccination he does it so any I keep get the all over three times before they are 16 weeks. even the dreaded temperature check, gee some sure hate that one. Trouble is there is so much variation in jaw growth in some puppies, a percentage the jaw can catch up. As others have noted a perfect scissor bite at 8 weeks can go out others that are out can become scissor bite at adult. they dont follow the rules all the time

spot on. never have them removed. My vet said that the vets who want to remove them must have payments due on their new car. ditto for the vets who tell a client their puppy needs patella's done before its even a year old? many can be soft in the ligaments when young, and strengthen until puberty both bones and ligaments are soft and still growing . in fact many vets pop perfectly normal patellas and say they are out when they are just easy to move due the puppies youth. We know this because he has passed puppies at their 8 week vet check and later discovered the new owner has been scammed by their own vet and been operated on before they were even 7 months old

"Whelping Frequency 4A. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in eighteen months without the prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08) 4B. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in two years without the prior written approval of a Veterinary Surgeon certifying her fitness to carry and whelp the third litter. (11/11) 4C. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding and without prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08), (11/11)" So, as actually as she has already bred two litters. The third litter cannot be registered if she whelps them even a day less than two years from the birth date of the first litter. As noted not all bitches cycle six monthly. so can get caught out. Would have to go to the board to decide in that instance. Along with a veterinarian certificate issued before she was mated.

true So much detail about the treatment but forgot to say all supplied by the vet. trouble is when worried can forget . unfortunate omission. as others have said, so many come here looking for free advice instead of heading straight to the vet.

I almost lost my daughter as a toddler to Giardia, she was scouring so badly she had degenerated to the degree I could see her tiny bones through her skin as the doctors continued to test and all tests came back negative. she had been in intensive care for three days and obviously close to death, before they decided nothing was working so lets treat her for giardia just in case "as it can be an intermittent shedder" and thankfully it worked. Its not just a puppy killer. unknown to me the water at Mittagong is known to be contaminated and I did not know. We had been visiting relatives and she wanted a glass of water and I gave it to her from the tap. Apparently all the bottles of water in the fridge was already boiled water that Mandy only gave the kids but she never thought to tell me. When I told her we had almost lost my daughter and we were stumped how she became infected is when I learned their water is contaminated and she thought I had known.

you poor darling, very few breed anymore, its now not the done thing to "prostitute your fur child and sell your grand children" NO kidding, that's what a numbskull asked me as she was about to leave with the puppy she bought from me and that was ten years ago! Thanks to the constant litany that "we have to eliminate puppy farmers and backyard breeders" very few are game to breed more than one litter a year anymore. dogzonline is mainly populated now by the "never breed more one or two litters as Im ethical and responsible, I'm not in it for the money" As well as the "adopt, not shop" I have seen as well. If that isn't telling anyone reading it that unless you too toe that line then you are unethical and irresponsible? The silence for decades has been deafening from those who actually do breed more. Trouble is the thought police avidly scan the litter registrations in the journal and anyone who has, although perfectly within the code of ethics to breed multiple litters , discover some one has been busy dialing and they have inspectors at the gate, I have been incredibly lucky, been breeding since 1979 and the atmosphere has changed so much many of my generation tend to be wondering why remain a member let alone breed when to do so is to become a target. Let alone, meet idiots like the lady who I earlier quoted who I expect has told everyone she meets that she "rescued" her pup. It was interesting she was too gutless to have her say before she had paid, received her puppy and paperwork, insurance and food all safely stowed in her car and leaving before she opened her mouth. I have only seen one litter affected by I have to admit I forget if it was guardia or coxxi? and yes a trip to the vet and my vet put them and the mum on Baycox and it felt like instant improvement... I always have scourban on hand always, at least it then gives the puppies a bit more time to find out whats going on before dehydration rears its ugly head. She was a friends dog I was looking after and it scared the daylights out of me as the vet said she could have picked it up before she arrived or he said birds tend to carry and spread both. Hope your puppies are getting better. Nothing so distressing than sick puppies. apologies for not spotting your post earlier

Wish I had Ch Pureheel Royal Echo on tape, when the moon was out that boy was a canine Pavarotti. When he went back to his breeder later in life (he had left her as a puppy) She couldn't believe it, first night he began singing. Not only beautiful boy, but exceptionally talented

Well they sure have not learned from the mess created by the mass council mergers then? Signed What a mess this will be if it is pushed through

also the limit register has thousands of excellent dna tested individuals that have just as effectively been eliminated from the gene pool

All these decades of tougher laws and codes to "eliminate puppy farmers" Yet, why is there not equal if not more, "education" of diet, care and maintenance of each breed instead? Whatever happened to educate the person who is found their animals have not been adequately fed, wormed, parasite treated? Frankly I would suspect education would be far cheaper to implement and achieve than higher fines for the uneducated? Not even todays new vets have adequate diet training of our dogs for example. recently a bitch had a litter of 7 puppies, the owner took her for a checkup and after checking she was in good health and no retained placenta's and the puppies all doing well, the vet made the comment, "Poor girl, this lot will suck the life out of her" That vet was obviously unaware that adequate diet will ensure the bitch would definitely, not, have "the life sucked out of her" but gain weight right up till they were weaned? We have all seen the horror shots of starving bitches with puppies hanging off them. where are the equal to more shots of strong, healthy bitches with their puppies? Both mother and puppies in the pink of health and educate members and joe public what is necessary to achieve this happy result? For too long the peta mob have been given free rein and not challenged or their claims refuted

trouble is so many think the dna tests are the be all and the end all of breeding sound dogs. the reality is the available tests are just 0.000000001% or even less of that guesstimate of the genes we dont want in our breeds. the banning of mother to son and father to daughter eliminated the tool that has been used for thousands of years by breeders to scan the genetics of their animals and make decisions accordingly, but the ankc removed that and just about every other incentive to keep the gene pool from shrinking continually as it has since the witch hunts to eliminate "puppy farmers and backyarders" from the membership, (I asked in the 1980's and still ask? if you dont live in an apartment, then every one of you have a backyard and thus marked for elimination" ) in their bid to placate the implacable animal libber/rights faction who only this week finally came out on public radio their sole aim is just what my vet said is happening, they feel they are close to achieving the extinction of domestic dogs and cats in this generation. When they began canvassing government to reclassify horses as companion animals I realised horses were next on the elimination agenda and yes they admitted that too in the radio interview. I may seem to be an idiot, I know many have told me to "go see a doctor, your sick in the head" Well. maybe something somehow enabled me to see where their agenda was heading all those decades ago that the self elected ethical, responsibiles thought police's glasses have blocked from their sight? so my next question, is have they now realised they have been tricked into the internal destruction of the ankc all these decades? If so any solution suggestions ? Sadly I suspect, it would be an almost impossible ask to stop viewing everyone other than themselves as prospective puppy farmers. According to even the present code of ethics, "10. A Member shall not breed a bitch that results in it whelping more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding and without prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors." So a member who breeds six litters from their bitch IS NOT IN BREECH of the Code of Ethics. Try telling that to the thought police! Yet a lady who bred six litters from her six bitches in one year. Ie one litter from each of her bitches, was labeled a puppy farmer, numerous calls were lodged with the rspca, Fellow members of her breed club were heard openly boasting they had made the calls. They made it so distressing for her she resigned from the club, although I and other friends managed to at least talk her out of resigning from the ankc. so at least she is still a registered ankc breeder and she does still breed and new members have a change of finding a main register pup. They cant get one from the "thought police" though. This was called in my day creating the scene "for divided we fall!" Looking at the stats for membership numbers over the past 30 years there has been substantial fall in relation to the population growth of this nation http://ankc.org.au/media/9436/memberstats_to-19v2.pdf That's a pretty obvious free fall towards extinction of not only the ankc but the breeds it was founded to register is it not? The show scene is the newcomer to dog breeds, our breeds were not evolved for show, they were evolved for a purpose . Today if you dont show, again that person is considered unethical and irresponsible? There are many reasons why some one may not show, that does not make them or their dogs inferior even though that is the automatic assumption today. again a case of "divided we fall". The PETA mob have good reason to be delighted, they have proven to be far smarter than the "ethical, responsible thought police" to date

I suspect this is the reason the RNSWCC changed its public name to Dogs NSW. Its board foresaw that to remain relevant to the pet owning public who do not own an ankc registered dog, they can still encourage people to join as a social club for working dog, earth dog trials etc and events open to unpedigreed dogs

Coalition For the Protection of Racehorses - Exposed at1tSpon8soruehdc · COALITION FOR THE EXTINCTION OF THOROUGHBREDS We have long tried to expose the facade of the Coalition for the Protection of Racehorses claims of "merely seeking reform of racing" and despite years and years of denials CPR have now openly declared their hand, saying racing is "beyond redemption" and they want "this industry to come to an end". Which was really never in doubt for anyone who has closely followed their decade of false and made-up claims. Today they teamed up with PETA Australia for a ridiculous protest at Flemington. But look past the tacky street theatre and at what the association with PETA means, which is even more concerning for genuine animal lovers. Just last week PETA Australia representatives conducted a bizarre interview on radio 3AW where they openly called for the end of any breeding of thoroughbreds, and also for the end of all breeding of any domestic animals, such as dogs or cats, beyond this generation - resulting in their ultimate extinction. Share this far and wide, because this is the agenda of these animal activist groups and the general public need to be aware. Animal rights groups are pushing for animal extinction, not animal welfare. The fact that their "protest" consists of five people looking ridiculous standing on an empty street just goes to show how hopelessly out of touch they are. Remember to use #LoveTheHorse #YupToTheCup hashtags when commenting on social media about horse racing on Cup Day. You can still be an animal lover and enjoy horse racing and the views of these activists groups are extremist. 3AW Interview: https://www.3aw.com.au/animal-activists-again-urge.../ https://www.facebook.com/CPRLies/photos/a.558490694231454/3555758631171297/ This has been the agenda since the 1980's but the ANKC members took it up as their mantra without ever thinking through where did "we must eliminate" came from. If my vet is right,.He believes it is already too late to save the ANKC gene pool, so many breeds remaining gene pool are already too low without opening the stud book to appendix animals which are going to come from where?

I know everyone was told, dont breed, we dont want people wanting a puppy just because they are stuck at home. I have no idea where it is now. but at the time I asked.. Do our dogs know because there is a pandemic they are not allowed to die of old age or accident until its over? I am getting phone calls on average three to five a week, some days that many in one day. And every one of them is to replace the dog they have just lost or finally getting over the loss after a year or so and yep there are no dogs to be found. how how did that come about? its not just because of the pandemic the call has been out not to breed an ankc litter for decades unless you wish to replace for yourself. nothing is more unethical or irresponsible than to breed a litter for sale as pets. As for letting anyone have a main register pup and keep members in the ANKC? Most of the breeders are dead end kennels, Never sell a main register pup. Over 20 years ago I loaned one of mine to a "friend" to breed a pup with the option of a second litter if she was not happy with a pup from the first.. Sooo she bred two litters. 7 in each litter and sold every one of them on limit register. and they were 2000 pups 20 years ago. so she pocketed $24,000 and bought a car and imported a pup instead. I was supposed to get a pup from each litter and I did. but as she had first choice and each time she said there were two she was deciding between I had to settle for 3rd choice. So I was pretty pissed off when I learned she had limit registered every one aside from my two 3rd choices and sold them all as pets? yep there are some interesting people that are ankc "breeders" and think they are the perfection of ethical and responsible. But dont worry. The government is granting breeding licences to commercial puppy farms to fill the massive gap there now is between the hundreds of thousands of people who would love a pet. I just find it hilarious that although no one should be allowed to be an ankc member if they are a "puppy farmer" yet if you are inspected by the rspca for compliance to the "POCTA for breeding dogs and cats" which is minimum by law you must comply with. What is this "POCTA" read it and you realise, our government in NSW, who made it law, is the minimum standard for a puppy farm. The difference of course is although an ankc member is actually a legal puppy farm. They dare not breed pets for joe public. that would be unethical and irresponsible and hated by your fellow members. So it is up to the real puppy farms to gear up and meet the demand. The ankc have seen this coming for years. or they would not have published this http://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf

Had two male cattledogs lock onto each other once and found the one thing that MAKES them let go. lucky there was a hose and tap nearby. turned hose full on and with water going up the nose of the one I had by the tail he sure let go fast. instant shoved into the nose of the other and he too let go in seconds and had them apart before the first boy could snort the water out . it took him quite a few seconds to be able to breathe without gurgling which was time enough needed to have the other let go and busy trying to clear all his face full of water too. Remarkable how fast a snoutfull of water cools the heat of the fight but its not as if you can carry a garden hose with you. be nice if there was an alternative as effective though.

well I have bought two and intend to find out if they work as stated. will report back if it worked. well if the opportunity comes up. will certainly be carrying one any time I go out in future. There are just too many people who do not keep their dogs from roaming.

There are some incredibly ignorant people as to what constitutes a main register pup. Even a long time friend who is an international all breeds judge, told me it meant a guarantee that dog would achieve Australian Champion in front of its name? Love her to bits, but really! Actually there is a footnote to that. Received a phone call from a lady from another state, she had bought a "show and breeding quality" puppy from my friend, she noted immediately its mouth was so out that there was no way she could show it, most judges would non award it even it it was the only one in the class and she certainly would not breed from it. She had advised my friend she was returning the pup and was told she would not take it back, she had rang me to see if I could help. So in that instance it was a case as do as I say, not as I do. I advised her to return the pup personally if she had too. It certainly was not as if the fault had developed later as it grew. Even if the vet doing the vaccination and vet check was at fault for not advising the breeder if she had missed spotting the fault. Main register actually means one thing and one thing only. The puppy at the time of registration in the opinion of the breeder is of sufficient quality to be main registered. FULL STOP. As anyone knows pups can change dramatically. The assessment is only that this pup can be used for breeding when adult if the owner so desired too. It does not mean it will attain Ch status. It does not mean it will win in the show ring. I have never understood how ankc members so enthusiastically took on the idea that you can lifetime guarantee a pup when you cant even do that for your own child? Some where in the rush to be seen as "ethical" and "responsible" common sense went out with the bathwater? There are actually three classes, The Show quality, The Breeding quality and the Pet quality. Puppies can glide between all three during their growing stages at bewildering speed. Many times the Breeding quality parents puppies outshine the Show quality parents puppies. Seen it so so so so many times happen. the story of the ugly duckling is based on fact. so many fables are lessons to be learnt and remembered. Now in this age of astounding prices being asked for x breds, We really need to take a hard look at another we have been continually told. "not in it for the money" . Recently a litter of lovely puppies were offered for sale on Dogzonline for less than half the price of other breeders main register puppies. Being the curious kind, I contacted the seller and asked the reason. To be told, "I have always wanted to breed and now I finally can, I am happy to sell my puppies for this price, as I am not in it for the money." This trend has been getting pretty strong over the years now. We are not "in it for the money", "the ethical responsible breeder should be selling their puppies for less than the cost of having bred and raised them." This is a very interesting mind set. so to attain this goal, firstly no one should join unless they have an independent income and so can afford to breed at a loss.? That effectively gets rid of what was the backbone of the ANKC membership from the outset. Dedicated pensioners. Is it just me wondering why only the independently wealthy are fit to continue a breeding program? I happen to know that a number of people had decided to buy one of the less than half price puppies and resell at a profit, as they told me their plan. I spoke to another member recently who has upped their price because they too discovered people were buying puppies from ANKC members and reselling for up to twice the original purchase price? I think people had better start rethinking this and start deciding on a decent price for the time, work and planning that created the litter they may decide to sell down the track. How did denigrating your time and expertise become something to be ashamed of as indicating if you ask to receive a fair price firmly sticks the "puppy farmer label on you ? You cant get much more pious than decided to become a minister of religion surely? Yet, unless they dedicated themselves to the catholic church and forego wife and children, Our churches ministers, both are paid to feed, clothe and house their family, yet an ankc member cannot do so, if they wish to avoid the stigma of being called a puppy farmer? This is the wonderful team at my local church. You may note they are all staff, they are all paid. They do not need to live in poverty or be independently wealthy to achieve their dream of serving God and their Church. https://springwoodanglican.org.au/people-profiles/ so someone please explain to me why to be an ANKC member and keep the breed of you choice in existence you risk being labeled a puppy farmer if you do not toe the poverty line?

in case you have not noticed, judging by so many laws turning out to have been so badly thought through, being intelligent does not seem to be a prerequisite for politics. law degrees are thick on the ground among many of them. so they like to play the law game but that's just another form of chess game, just learn the game, the moves and the language so the voters havnt a clue what your saying is the way to go.

nothing like encouraging too early desexing, as one vet noted early desexed dogs cost up to 7,000 extra over the lifetime of the dog compared to either late or not desexed at all! Although those who are rehoming an older breeding dog, wouldnt they have already been registered as life entire by the breeder and hence no fee payable, just a transfer to new owner? desexed or not?

pretty stressful for you, our nsw rivers have bull sharks in them, they love dog for dinner. humans too. one took my mums cousin in a supposedly shark proof pool near the bridge over the Georges river near Bankstown airport. turned out there was a hole in the net

be careful of bravecto, a vet recommeded it to my friend and two puppies died 4 had neurological damage symptoms, two recovered, they were cattledogs, think the symptoms presented second time it was used. the vet believed it was caused by the bravecto, as others had similar reaction

GOOD sign, the scammers want the money up front or else I think the advice to phone is a good idea. us oldies get so busy totally forget things way to easily, n lose track of time, tomorrow or soon as I finish this is usually what happens

as it grows up your corgi could be at risk, they tend enjoy a scrap, its what they were bred for. certainly not herding