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ok dont know much about shar pei but met a lady with about 5 of them and ok the puppies looked like they were 10 times too small for their skin but the adults had no face wrinkes and not much body wrinkles either, they were regd purebreds n boy were they guard dogs. wouldnt have entered her house if u paid me. they wanted me for lunch. n yep they looked like they could n would take a pitty on when i commented about it she said they grow into their skin but its a very loose skin so they can literally move around inside it that they were bred originally for fighting. can a pitty turn round inside its own skin?

maybe he needs to be asked for proof that his x breds are equally free of genetic faults, we all know he cant. be interesting to see how he tries to wriggle out of that one a bit of footage of that poor little x bred with robert zammit with all his health issues needs to be aired more often and a lot more as well this stuff needs to be got out there and hey i know where, tvs is always asking for contributions from public groups. ill ask round here for anyone with a doggy x bred disaster we can film and everyone else ditto we could have a loverly doco for tvs consumption

Wow. You are really breeding to the extreme of the standard!!! I have always felt at 6feet 3" I am on the cusp of what society regards as normal and that my brother at 6feet8" inches is circus material. You have out done us completely. We had thousands of tests done and his hands and fingers actually look small for his size - He's just a big boy - perfectly healthy. Never had a taste of alcohol and never had a cigarette or drugs either in his life. He was pretty thin around mid teens but well covered before that and now he's about right and 2 pick handles wide. He's good to go shopping with because you dont loose him - he can see over all the shelves and you can spot him a mile away. I have a stepson thats 2 pick handles wide, ok not that extreme in height, but at 6 ' 3'', its easy to spot him and as for handy to have around when my ex lobs into view, n decided to come at me like he used too before i escaped, then realised the intendend punching bag wasnt alone, PRICELESS.

Wow. You are really breeding to the extreme of the standard!!! I have always felt at 6feet 3" I am on the cusp of what society regards as normal and that my brother at 6feet8" inches is circus material. You have out done us completely. naughty steve, you realise you may be labled as being an extreme breeder? n not adhering to the breed standard!

The right to breed The state that has no business in the bedrooms of the nation seeks to insert itself into the fallopian tubes of its poodles Catherine McMillan, National Post Published: Thursday, December 17, 2009 Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=...3#ixzz0byhDPcMu The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. I still recall my first visit to the Small Animal Clinic at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine in Saskatoon. As the young resident took down my puppy's health history, she advised that if I spayed my little dog before her first heat cycle, the risk of mammary cancer could be eliminated. "Good to know," I replied. "But how will that affect her future as my foundation bitch?" Some 25-plus years later, "Peras" has hundreds of champion descendants across six continents, while I am quite likely the first and only commercial artist to co-author a peer-reviewed paper for the American Journal of Veterinary Ophthalmology. That young resident's words were a warning, though I didn't know it at the time. Veterinary medicine, once an equal partner with breeders, sporstmen, and food producers, is being transformed by an activist viewpoint that reduces owners to "guardians" and elevates health providers to the self-appointed role of animal "advocate." "Spay and neuter" has achieved cult mantra. Dog breeders are held in suspicion: The only good dog is the "natural" one. Defects are blamed on breed standards, despite the fact that the majority of purebreds are produced by family pets and commercial breeders, their puppies as far removed from the show ring as a second-hand pickup from the Formula One track. This attitude is reflected by provincial boards that recently have moved to impose bans on ear cropping and tail docking. Though long the subject of some controversy, these procedures serve both aesthetic and practical ends, injury prevention and hygiene among them. This current turf war over puppy tails is just a preview of coming attractions. The state that has no business in the bedrooms of the nation seeks to insert itself into the fallopian tubes of its poodles. A Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) director recently recounted the hostile atmosphere at a recent meeting with the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association (CVMA): "These vets are not only speaking of cropping and docking. Several, led by New Brunswick, are openly critical of the CKC's breed standards, feel that breeders are poorly educated with respect to health, genetics and breeding practices to support an animal's welfare and are censorious of breeders -- in particular those breeders who breed conformation dogs for show. They are criticizing our standards for individual breeds and are of the opinion that we are not supporting the puppy purchasers with healthy dogs." To achieve this, they hint at legislation. After all, who better to condemn the docking of a puppy's tail than the person who will, in a few weeks time, slice open her abdomen to remove a healthy uterus? Who better to seek criminalization of ear cropping than a profession that declaws kittens for profit? For as often as they're consulted by media and policy makers on matters canine, a veterinarian receives no training in basic breed identification, much less the diverse origins and forces that shape gene pools. It's unreasonable to expect them to -- it takes a lifetime of study to master a single breed, much less hundreds. Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=...3#ixzz0byh8e9Qi The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. The film Best in Show presented the dog-show circuit as a caravan of loopy narcissists. Omitted from the script were the contributions of the fancy to everyday canine society -- rescue efforts, training classes, consumer advice, the millions raised, the efforts donated to health research. There is no profit in showing dogs, for costs quickly negate the returns. It's an esoteric pursuit, driven by love of breed, competitive reward, and that appreciation of form and symmetry shared by all artists, a thing we know as "beauty." The Doberman's "look of eagles," the merle collie's loud and luxurious coat, the silhouette of the Skipperke -- those things that fill the eye can determine the fate of breeds, for it is their beauty that so often attracts and inspires human beings to devote resources to their perpetuation. The distance between a breed and extinction is five years, for this is the average reproductive lifespan of a female. For rare breeds and those with limited genetic diversity, it takes only one ill-conceived edict on the part of policy makers to start it down the road to collapse. It seems like a small thing, this battle for a veterinarian's liberty to practice as he sees fit, a dog breeder's quest for perfection. After all, no one needs to crop ears on a Boxer. But then again, no one needs a Boxer at all, or any sort of pet. Purebreds (of all species) carry health risks derived from their genetic founding fathers. Breeds weren't created to compile longevity records, but to perform tasks for mankind -- to dispatch vermin, predators, and enemy barbarians, locate game, retrieve over water, to pull sleds, or warm a dowager's bed on a cold winter night. And so, they remain imperfect. The Borzoi is living history of czarist Russia, the giant Mastiff a modern echo of ancient Rome -- but they suffer high rates of bloat. Poster artists recruited the English bulldog as a symbol of resolve in World War II, but the massive head that encouraged a nation results in caesarian sections. The Dalmatian's spots are beloved of Disney and children everywhere, but the genetics that create them can result in deafness. The merry spaniel can wag an undocked tail to bloody pulp, but no one hunts woodcock in these parts. Better no cocker, they say, than no tail. Like so many other small things in this brave new humane world -- history, property rights, individual liberty, and the beholder's permission to declare something "beautiful" -- the eradication of the purebred dog is underway, aided and abetted by those we once considered friends. And yet, to this breeder at least, so seldom has one small thing carried with it such symbolism for what it is we are allowing them to destroy. There is an air of nihilism in what they do. Like "green" zealots who insist millions will die from climate change unless we reduce the earth's population by billions, their ideological sisters in veterinary activism would solve the problems of purebred dogs by eliminating them altogether. They seem oddly disconnected from the reality that for veterinary medicine to survive, the patient must reproduce. - Catherine McMillan lives in Saskatchewan and runs the blog "Small Dead Animals." In 2009, Miniature Schnauzers descending from her "Minuteman" kennel line include those ranked #1 in the breed in the USA, Canada, Brazil and England, along with the #2 MS in Australia and the Jr. World Winner at the World Show in Slovakia. Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=...2#ixzz0bygtZLSe The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. brilliant summation of what is going on. we either get together or the dogs loose big time. needs to be added there is no living organisim that is genetically perfect, not even the human race either. so how can they expect it let alone demand it of dogs????

considering the tens of thousands of people with the knowledge available that cannot apply to work as special constables because they are not ex police with prosecution experience, really shows where the rspca's prioritys lie. the man who shot all those dairy cows was perfectly within the law as he "had formed the opinion" they needed to be destroyed immediately and then did so even though he had neither the knowledge or experience to know what he was looking at were high production dairy cows. as for the moran or should i say "man" "who formed the opinion" that the other ladies cows should die and turned away the truck delivering feed for them on the gounds i think? "that they were too far gone to save. " or something along those lines. i understand there is photo footage proving his "opinion" was incorrect, but they slaughtered them anyway. if they actually employed people who did have the required knowledge and experience and trained them in "prosecution experience" these horrors would not be occuring surely? i really dont understand why the minister for agriculture wouldnt consider this far more sensible and surely humane approach. such a pity a few polies and their families didnt fall into the net and discover for themselvs what so many have already. things would be changed presto as for the lady with the debarked dogs, words just fail. so so many dogs are surrendered because neighbours have complained or even the very owners are at their wits end because they have a barker and dont know how to stop the noise and give up and surrender it, when a simple debarking would have resulting in happy neighbours and owner and not the least, a happy dog instead of ending is life with a needle the number of people ive told about her debarked dogs and the astonishment that there is an op that can moderate those ear pearcing volumes instead of putting the culprit down is amazing how few people even know it can be done?

my vet was pertty adamant that i sue the rspca for cruelty to my dog stringy. but goodness as i tried to explain to him. they have millions behind them, we dont, i really think although you are led to belive that the law is available to all its really available only if you have the funds to go that way or are prepared to lose everything n anyway that 13 days of mental agony learning that where the rspca is concerned anyway you HAVE NO ONE TO turn to for intervention even when your own vet is prepared to swear there is nothing wrong with your dog. all the rspca inspector has to do as richard amery told me is "form the opinion" the animal "should be seized" for it to be a legal seizure. what really disheartened me was he wouldnt even entertain the idea that if these inspectors were permitted such sweeping power they at least be properly qualified to form an opinion. but nope he wouldnt even consider that. and as ive said in previous posts, a tech head told one of the teachers of the animal care course that the special constables attending the very course that their job description said they must attend "dont need to pass, they only need to attend"? im married to the teacher in question so im not talking second or 3rd hand

Huh? The other dog in my newspaper has a well pigmented, black nose. The mutilated dog has a pink nose that has no pigment. Different dogs. Souff nope its both shots of a chocolate dog just one pics in shadow the other in sun

I know even scientists use the sheep drench orally on their sheepdogs, the sheep get drenched and as the dogs push them through they get a mouthfull. when i saw it was wondering and asked. been using it ever since with no adverse affects in nearly 20 years now. only learned when i bought a pup that turned out its mum had mange and passed it onto the pup that the uni also cure scarpotic mange with it although in much lower daily dose rate. in chihuahua's they said the washes can kill a percentage of chi's. never had any reactions to the normal dose. although a friend bought the low dose one (its green) and boy her dog was frothing at the mouth, so wouldnt try that too often, although she said after he recovered by the end of the month he had the shiniest coat in the district?

Maybe in the case of those breeds which do require a high level of intervention, the breeders should be looking at ways to make their dogs healthier so that they CAN have normal bodily function? If a breed HAS to be micro-managed then surely there is a question mark about the validity overall? Yes, very simplistic. And yes, will no doubt p!ss more than a few people off. But if you're going to simply things so that it is "survival of the fittest" then those breeds which don't fit, essentially don't belong. totally agree, surely "maintaining a breed" should also be striving to maintain a propulation that can do it naturally? theres enough can go wrong with those that can and so mate and welp naturally. although sometimes its the vets who convince people the dogs cant. or horses for that matter. had a guy bring his aged girl, complete with his vets instructions. she had to be ultrasounded, internally examined, told me to the second almost when the stallion was to serve her than she was implanted with some hormone that was supposed to maintain pregnancy. 3 months and $3,000 in vet bills later still no foal. so they booked a truck to take her back home. so turfed her and her friend into the same paddock to munch and keep each other company with no vets in attendance and 11 months later. nice BAY FILLY. did the same again last year and NICE BAY FILLY? funny that eh? although have to wonder, the vets made the 3 grand n i gets 400? the vets never did their part of the bargain, ie live foal yet gets the motza, n i only gets the 400 if the foal turned up live vets it seems to me are on a pretty good wicket. n what about those vet checks when we take our babies for vaccination. test hearts, patellas, teste's etc gets all clear. BUT if things go haywire and crooked as the puppy grows whose responsible and expected to replace now defective pup and or pay resulting vet bills? the breeder! what breeder would onsell a puppy that the vet picked these problems up in. NO ONE I KNOW. but what about the vets that gave these puppies the all clear? they bear no responsiblity, just what are we paying them for i sometimes wonder. I had a boy exported, tested at 6 weeks. 12 weeks and 16 weeks the last two by the purchasers own vet. two teste descended into the scrotum, then opps one dissappears and who does the buyer want their money back from???

theres a lot in favour of having a crystal ball. well long as it works. wouldnt that be wonderful. sigh

even weirder only a few years ago walking through a horse sale daugher stopped dead staring at a grey gelding and insisting he was a son of nea. me? flummoxed i knew where all his progey were how could this one be by him? goes up to the auctioneer and asks who is the seller. yep but he had already been sold to a dogger by then. took weeks to rescue him

many many years ago we were walking though a dog pound, friends had lost their dog and were looking to check he wasnt there. those were the days when microchipping wasnt mandatory. there wagging her tail at us was a ringer for my cattledogs and commented . my daughter was adamant that was one of our dogs. so we enquired about her. turned out she was chipped and her owner was at the oaks but had not answered any letters or phone calls. she was due to be put down in two hours. they gave me the chip number and i flew home, and yep she was one of mine. phoned them and raced back to rescue her. when she jumped out of the car where did she run. to her mum. n she had left us at 8 weeks and was now 16 months old. forget her registered name she was ever after named LUCKY.

Exactly. And THAT'S why we keep going back for more! YES so true, their joy reinfects you. and even though at times it does seem madness to risk the heartache, you get that call or visit from wonderful people you would probably have never met otherwise and you share a common joy. some of my best friends we met for the first time when they came to see a puppy or a foal. another friend of nearly 30 years we bought our first stud heifer from.

not just dog events, one pony club an 18 month old baby ran straight into the arena into the path of 3 cantering horses. talk about panic attacks. where was mum, in the canteen talking to friends.

I fondle other people's dogs all the time. I would in no way place it in the same category as fondling the dog's owner! Then you fondle someone else's dog uninvited to do so at your own risk Rule one when i was a child. YOU NEVER TOUCH someone's dog, unless they say you can! whatever happened to good manners. n apart from good manners, who knows what you could be spreading from dog to dog if you pet every dog you see while you are out? as well not all dogs think everyone is their new best friend. our first chihuahua chippie, i couldnt belive the behavour of total strangers. we would be out shopiing with him in either a handbag or carried in our arms and total stangers would walk up and even without making eye contact, start patting him on the head. his neck was taking the shock, the inpact was so much that it went right through him into my arm as well my arm would be aching by the time we got back to the car. his poor little head would be slammed into his shoulders, over and over again. lucky he didnt have a molera. he took it in good humour for about 2 years. till one day he decided enough is enough. the next hand that came at him was greeted with a full mouth of snarling teeth. he had had enough. embarrassing as it was, he took up "smiling" at all and sundry, and we were finally left to do our shoppingor where ever else we went in public, in peace.

Just to let you know, that little was at home on the same is now fine. i've seen a photo of her after she was treated, and you coudn't see a sign of any marks on her face. FYI: is she was "attacked" or mauled by a big dof, her injuries would've been very visible on the news. it puzzled me no end, the headlines said "toddler attacked by dog" panned to a photo of the mauled victum and there is a split lip? ive seen worse after a altercation with our conceret path? wondered then if she had fallen and not bitten. still wonder. ive seen bites, n they do a lot more than one split. I had a dob leap to protect her puppies. the kid had a full set of her front teeth printed on his forehead. and boy he was screaming blue murder. she hit him so hard with her closed mouth every tooth was clearly intented on his forehead, it was frightening to see and realise how much damage she could have done if she had opened her mouth. was she a potential killer? never took the chance. after that all doors were not only shut, like that one had been till the kid had opened it after being told DO NOT GO NEAR that door. there after all were locked when visitors arrived. kids cannot be trusted, part of the territory to push boundaries beyond the limits. such a sad case for all concerned

No, I don't see it as this at all. It is because those who make the law lost the plot some years back. In earlier years there was a law that was called the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. It was pretty general in its wording and it still had to be policed. When cases came to court, a magistrate LISTENED to the case put before him/her by the prosecution, and then they LISTENED to the defendant's side of the story. Then the magistrate made formed a JUDGEMENT, did the sentencing etc. What is wrong with the present law is that those who are given the roles of constables under the law are forming the JUDGEMENT long before the case ever gets to court. The current system is putting the cart before the horse. The role of the inspector should be to inspect and educate, and then to warn if things are not improving, and then if that doesn't work, then do the prosecuting ..... BUT FOR GOODNESS SAKE, LET THE MAGISTRATE DO THE JUDGING! If a film crew comes along for the ride, fine, but that footage should ONLY be used for the court case. It is not to be used a publicity material - it is merely recording a job that people are paid to do. This is not about heroics and publicity stunts. It is supposed to be about animal welfare. Souff Hi souf, thats the one thing missing in every one of the cases i cited. the actual welfare of the animals wasnt on the radar. the last instance, of the lady with the chi's, they had come because a neighbour had complained of barking. no complaints of lack of care or anything like that. one look and the inspector decided this lady is too old to have 6 tiny dogs. n takes them, all healthy well cared for n hey its a crime to be a collector! handy that one. how can six be a collection? no suggestions to cut down the noise, well actually complete removal certainly removed the noise? forgot that bit. she was in her 70's at the time. must have been pretty healthy, since she later was still alive after 2 years sleeping in the streets with the derelicts? if some can sleep at night after discovering their pets can be taken with no recourse if they are foolish enough to get past 70 they are certainly resiliant.

these are just the cases i know of personally. HOW MANY OTHERS ARE THERE? Why the RSPCA MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE DEPT OF AGRICULTURE. Only just learned of your website and your agony. And believe me I know your agony. My dog stringy was seized in 1999 with no prior warning which is against their very own so called policies. He was held for 13 days subjected to multiple tests for diseases and conditions he did not have. Subjected to by my vet’s assessment a minimum of 22 needle insertions into a 1.2 kg body, anesestized and had skin scrapings to prove he had flea dermatitis, then skin plugs removed in a vain attempt to prove he had mange. The seizing Constable Coleman Refused at all times to permit the dogs vet to speak to the rspca vet mark lowery. now head of the nsw vet association. When they finally ran out of ideas they finally phoned me to come pick up my dog. they demanded i pay them over $500 for tests and fees and demanded this be paid even before being allowed to see him, i flatly refused to pay before i saw him to ascertain if he was even still alive. i had good reason to suspect he may not be as he is a very determined little dog and if he does not like whatever food he is offered he will refuse to eat and go into hyperglycemia. being so small he was quite prone to this if he decided he didn’t want or like what was offered. When in these moods he would only accept chicken, a fact i had passed onto an amazingly nice guy who answered the phone in my frantic calls the day he disappeared while I was out. to come home to a piece of paper declaring my dog had been seized due to a skin condition? it was a Sunday when he was seized and by the time on the paper 1pm I didn’t get home till about 5pm and when i phoned apparently all the staff had left and only the cleaner answered the phone, lucky for me and my dog he was very nice and i explained what my boy looked like, a blue fawn tiny Chihuahua and he said he had seen him in the back room. when i explained if he was distressed or upset he would not eat anything but chicken he assured me not to worry as he had chicken sandwiches and stringy could have his chicken as he didn’t mind and would pass on the information as well. the distress and fear for my boy was impossible to cope with i was so ill as a result, the only good thing about it i lost the 10 kg had been trying to lose since having my daughter by the time he was returned. Why was this dog STOLEN, and stolen he was make no mistake about that. My first indication something was afoot was a visit by inspector Donnelly. He was accompanied by a young girl. Yes he said he had received a complaint, BUT he flatly refused to disclose what the complaint was. This is entirely against the very law this hypocrite is supposed to be working under. I did not ask who made the complaint; all I asked was what was the complaint. you cant fix something if you don’t know what it is can you? He then proceeded to demand to inspect every animal on the property; he had his offsider write down how many adult dogs, how many puppies, horses, chooks, even shoved the hen off her chicks to count how many chicks there were????? His arrogance and disgust and contempt of me he made abundantly clear. Which was very stressful alone even before he began his inspection, when he saw Pearl he enquired why has she not been put down? Considering the dog was in perfect health, a tad overweight and her only problem was she carried her head to one side as the result of a ear infection as a puppy, this observation seemed a bit ruthless of a perfectly happy little dog? When he spotted Stringy he asked what’s the matter with him? He is a small fluffy blue fawn Chihuahua with Blue Gene Alopecia running from the back of his shoulders to his rump. He is not bald there just the coat there looks like its been clipped short Bedlington style. The rest of his coat about half an inch long and soft and fluffy. No bald skin, no thickening NONE of the signs of allergy or mange. He didn’t look as if he believed one word of what I had told him, so gave him the name and address and phone number of my vet so he could verify with Richard Miller my vet, who always saw Stringy when I came with puppies to vaccinate as Stringy always came too. He had diagnosed the Blue Gene Alopecia when his adult coat came in and the back hairs didn’t grow back when they fell out, only the soft short fluff most bald men develop when their hair falls out now grew there. When he prepared to leave I made a point of asking him, was there anything you feel I need to improve to change? He flatly refused to reply. When I continued to request a reply, his only reply I could elicit was that he would consult with his superiors and a letter would be in the mail. I was very, very, aware this guy was breaking every rule of an inspection and was gravely concerned about what this was leading too. (I had friends who used to be inspectors and know the protocols) At no time did he say he was concerned about Stringys condition. Just asked what it was, it was his body language that frightened me and made me back it up with giving him my vets contact details. THE PROTOCOL IS. If he had a concern I should have been told to take my dog and have him seen to and treated by my vet. HE NEVER SAID A WORD TO THAT EFFECT. If he had, then I would have had 14 days to have done so or face prosecution, ie if the dog had fleas or flea allergy, no treatment then the dog would be seized. This was NOT DONE OR SAID. HE LEFT. I knew in my whole body this guy was up to something but not what. As a result I called my vet, I called the Canine Council , Richard told me not to worry, the guy obviously had an attitude problem. The Canine council put Alan Candlish on to me and he rang the RSPCA on my behalf and asked for the nature of the complaint. His call to me half and hour later was to say, “looks like you have upset someone with friends in very high places in the RSPCA. I HAVE never been treated so rudely in my life. They refused to tell me anything.” So for two weeks I heard nothing. The so called letter never came. My vet said stop worrying, the guys a nut. Went out that Sunday and my dog was stolen. Yes I finally got my very damaged boy back, n damaged he was, mentally and physically. Betty Step had come with me to pick him up as I was too ill and upset to face them alone. My dog when they finally brought him out to me was drooling so badly his entire front and legs were covered in drool. When I asked Mark Lowery what was the matter with him he offered to do more tests. When I asked had he been exposed to dogs with parvo he again offered to do more tests. He also added that my vet was incompetent since he had not done all the tests he had done to ascertain for sure if his diagnosis was correct in the first place. Considering they had proven beyond doubt his diagnosis was correct I know who I believe is totally incompetent. I paid them their blood money and fled with my dog. Although I had a full packet of some 200 kleenex tissues my boy had them all soaked by the time I arrived at Mamre Rd Vet surgery. A quick examination by Richard found his trachea had been torn. Richard belived probably by the insertion of a too large trachel tube when they took the skin plugs. As a result he was now developing pneumonia, as well continual drooling he was now dehydrated so he spent the night with Richard on drips and drugs. Another 600 to save him. That along with the solicitors letter that had been sent requesting his return which cost me another 550. So the entire excersise cost over $1,650 for a dog with nothing wrong with him but an odd coat. AND WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? It only took me some two years of writing to the Minister for Agriculture the then Richard Amery to finally elicit the reply that this nightmare was due to “an unfortunate breakdown in communication” BOLLOCKS! There was plenty of efforts at communication by, myself, my vet, Alan Candlish and the solicitor. None of whom were treated with civility let alone replied too. BY THE RSPCA OR ANY OF ITS SO CALLED REPRESENTATIVES. THEY WERE THE ONES WHO TOTALLY REFUSED TO COMMUNICATE. The rest of his letter was even more enlightening. This whole nightmare had been because “a fellow breeder was concerned my dogs and my establishment may reflect poorly on the reputation of dog breeders” Trying to hunt up the letter so can make sure it’s wording is exactly right but can’t find it at the moment. He then went on to assure me that as long as I adhered to the code of practice for dog breeders I had nothing to fear from the RSPCA. AGAIN BOLLOCKS! He thoughtfully provided me with a copy of said code of practice, and reading it from cover to cover. NOT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS MY DOG WAS TESTED FOR WAS LISTED AS REQUIRING VETERINARY ATTENTION LET ALONE REQUIRING URGENT MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!!!!!!! I did politely request since this was the case how was I safe from the RSPCA since according to the very booklet he has sent I was within the said code of practice yet my dog still disappeared. He never replied to that or any other letters. So from my experience my advice could only be, GOOD LUCK FOLKS. N MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD CASE OF GRAVEL RASH WHEN THEY COME. Or you will end up like Marion Alcorn That foolish lady had some 14 or so horses on agistment around Mudgee way. It was drought, well when isn’t Australia in drought any more? But she thought they were safe since they were the sole occupants of over 600 acres of pasture. Except some weeks later received a phone call, “better check your horses” turned out a neighbor had thoughtfully cut the fences so his cattle wouldn’t starve either. By the time they had left there was nothing but dirt left for her horses and many were very thin. She hired a truck and brought them all home to her 7 acre I think it was block. Where she was handfeeding them, theres plenty of witnesses to attest they were gaining weight. About a week or so later an RSPCA inspector arrived since neighbours had been making comments about their condition the second they arrived she was expecting the visit. But not the attitude of the inspector, who strangely enough she felt to be very arrogant and threatening towards her. She like so many of us stupid people thought she actually had rights and advised him to clean up his attitude or leave her property immediately. FATAL mistake. He informed her he would show her his rights and made a phone call. A truck duly arrived and since it had capacity for 10 he took 10 horses with him. She was then billed 70 dollars a week per week per horse for 10 weeks, for you who like me cant do maths that $7,000. The court hearing took place 10 weeks later. The hearing was adjourned for 15 minutes, so the RSPCA could make her an offer. Sign all ten over to them and they would drop the charges. She again being stupid, thinking she had any rights in the matter, asked them to promise to find good homes for them. They duly promised. Since I was there present at this, I too heard them make said promise. She signed. Back into the court they went. Told the magistrate they had the horses signed over so were prepared to drop the charges for the agistment. Then the surprise. BUT they still intended going ahead with the charge of refusing to worm her horses. Just like the TV add the judge said it’s a crime not to worm your horses and fined her……….$7,000. To be paid within I forget how many months (was in as much shock as Marilyn) or serve 6 months in jail. Since I never found her at home over the ensuing year I strongly suspect she went to jail, I certainly know she had no way of raising that amount of money. For some peculiar reason she now never answers the door or the phone. The only way I can see her is if we run into each other when she does have to go out to get food. Her fear when anyone says hullo is unmistakable she sort of hunches down until she realizes it is a friend talking to her, heartbreaking to see. Pretty much a total recluse now. Nice one RSPCA. The horses you ask? What became of the horses. Well, I phone the RSPCA FOR nearly every day after the signing over to ask when people could buy them, remember, they were going to good homes were they not. Finally day 3 the switch operator was getting a bit miffed at my insisting they were available for sale as I had witnessed the signing over. She sort of “humpthed” and said ‘” Ho I suppose it won’t hurt, they went to McGrath’s Hill Saleyard this morning. A mad round of phone calls to all those who wanted to help rescue them began and I belted it over there as the sale was due to start within the hour. Even a rep from the Arabian horse society arrived to see if they may be able to help. Into the ring strode the very promiser of good homes for them. When he opened his mouth what did come out? “NO ONE BUT THE DOGGERS ARE PERMITTED TO BID ON THESE HORSES” n he strode out and the first one ran in. Under his breath but still loud enough for most to hear came “n their all mad”. They sold the lot for something like $1,800 all up. Now for the dairy farmer. He and his family went to town, on their arrival home, the front paddock where they had turned some of their best stud cows to graze while they were gone was littered with the dead and dying or about to die as an RSPCA inspector was walking among them shooting them. Only the wife is left to tell the tale, her husband died of a heart attack not long after his shock and distress was so great. He was trying to find legal counsel to sue them for the value of the murdered cattle, a loss of a lifetimes breeding ,both he and his father before him. None of which was replaceable. Apparently some passerby had thought they looked thin, so apparently did the inspector who turned up before they arrived home. So he did what he is empowered to do. He shot them. These were some of the top producing stud Frisian cattle in Victoria. I doubt it would be too hard to find out the names of the victims in this. I don’t remember the lady’s name and have since lost her phone number. But I bet every stud and breeder of top producing Frisian’s knows Now for Rosemary D’Agostino. She and her husband Sam bought a top priced young stud bull. Problem was she soon discovered he had no respect for the fence keeping him from the main interstate highway that ran the length of their property at Gunnedah. So since it was a show bull and trained to lead she and Sam put him on a tether giving him access to a shed and grass so he had both shade and grazing as well as hand fed while they constructed a bull yard for him. Said yard was not far from completion, when in rocks who? An RSPCA INSPECTOR, yep someone thought it is cruel to have a bull on a tether, even a calf like this one. Said inspector tells them to release the bull immediately. Since they had recently had heavy rain and clover had sprang up literally overnight and to turn him free when he was accustomed to hard dry feed, to do so would have resulted in his death from bloat within an hour or so. They refused. Said Inspector left. Shortly to return with two very embarrassed police officers in tow. Release the bull NOW or you both will be arrested. Both Rose and Sam explained again to do so would kill the bull. Both the police officers being raised on the land were also well aware this would be the result as well, but as they explained. They had no power to refuse, the law was that the RSPCA inspector could and would demand their arrest and arrest them they had to do even though they knew the inspector was wrong. They were very apologetic but said they had to do because that’s the way the law is now. Their advice was turn the bull loose and follow him to keep him moving so he couldn’t eat enough fast enough to kill him. If they didn’t she would have them arrested and she would turn the bull loose and Sam and Rose would be in jail for the night and unable to protect him. So Rose and Sam took the officers advice. They released the baby bull and Rose spent the next 8 hours walking behind him to keep him moving while Sam finished the yard. The RSPCA INSPECTOR? She left the second the bull was turned loose; well satisfied she had shown this uppity pair who is really boss. The real cruelty here? Sam was over 75, Rose over 65 and the bull was released about 4pm so Rose and Sam walked and worked most of the night to save THEIR BULL. Where was the inspector? Safe in bed perhaps??? There was a lady, her name I have forgotten, but Betty Step knows her. She used to take in either rescue dogs or ones with problems that breeders didn’t want to sell. Think she had 6 dogs in her care at the time. She lived in a house, think it was her own. The RSPCA came took all of them. Said she had too many dogs. That she was a collector. Most of these little chihuahua’s were pretty high maintenance, given to her by her breeder friends because they considered them unsuitable for sale. I.e. too tiny and prone to hyperglycemia, too large a fontanel and venerable to concussion or water on the brain from the slightest knock, that sort of thing. She loved them and cared for them. N cried buckets when one died, why anyone would deliberately breed for tea cup Chihuahua’s is beyond me or anyone in the Club that I know? Its tragic enough when one does turn up. Why the general public are so fixated on them is very disheartening. As so many vets say, tea cups, don’t make old bones. Too many things can go wrong. Obviously none were showable, although she loved to go to the shows with her show and breeder friends. After they were taken she was refused even visiting rights let alone what fate had been decided for them. Why take them from someone who knew and understood their special needs, n prepared to give it 24/ 7? N was prepared for the heartbreak she knew would be coming because they were frail? She was pretty stressed out about it. She walked from her home and disappeared. None of her friends saw her again and no calls from her either. She disappeared as if from the face of the earth, many feared suicide. Some two years later she was spotted living on the streets and fled when she realized she had be recognized. She never came home to my knowledge. This is the damage these people can cause. Not that they care a jot. No one I know, could find out the fate of her dogs.

How many has it occurred to, that politicions call for! demand! the resignation of any pollie, even the Prime Minister the split second, (or should that be split hairs) of even a whiff of dare we name it???? CONFLICT OF INTEREST? remember not that long ago when even our present prime minister's head was being called for because his wife had not sold her business when he was elected? CONFLICT OF INTEREST? OFF WITH HIS HEAD! yet not a whimper over the so many conflicts of interest to found with who? RSPCA?

well in theory there is, you write to the relevant Minister for Agriculture. nicely, polietly and WAIT. then you writ again, again, again n when he gets tired of fobbing you off BINGO! only took me TWO YEARS for him to finally tell me WHY. stringy had to suffer. although his assurance that long as i adhered to the code of practice i had nothing to fear from the rspca, assured me hedidnt know what he was talking about. there was nothing in the code of practice he sent me that applied to my dog needing to be seized. soo when i pointed this out and asked then how is adhering to the book you sent any protection, that and subsequent requests must have ended up in the too hard basket. never even got any, "thanks for your letter, the minister is looking into it" fob off replies anymore? but hey, legally hes the one to be writing too. just dont expect too much so you wont be too dissappointed eh? yep there are those who have reason to think we have our own legally appointed terroist organisation, they call it , RSPCA but those like greymate know only those who deserve it end up thinking this way dont they? n must have brought it on themselves, yep totally right, if you dont have a pet and dont annoy someone it would never happen. dont ever think u have any rights n never disagree with an inspector and you wont be traumatized when you do find out you have no rights. right? well you do have one right, write the minister at least that will keep you occupied

what people dont realise is many animals dont see children in the same light as an adult. an animal that is friendly and gentle with an adult can be a monster to a child and i dont mean the child finds it scary. Well not until its attacked. One of the favourite jokes at Leacocks was Mr Leacock would tell some visiting kid to please go fetch the house cow, and send you off with a bucket and feed to fetch her. he sent me one day, yep she fetched all right, galloping straight at me and chasing me back to the house at a full run, goodness knows what if I had fell. he was laughing his head off. my heifie would come running when i called her, she would stand to be milked completely free in a 25 acre paddock, imagine my astonishment when i introduced her to my baby. she took one snif of the little human, gave a snort that nearly blew her out of my arms, put her head down and was intending grinding her into the ground with her head??? at no time could i risk letting my child walk into her paddock even when she was 5, heifie would snuff snort and go into attack mode. I had bought her as a young heifer and she was so tame and gentle i could put a halter and saddle on her and go for a ride. one of my mares can be called from anywhere in a 500 acre paddock, she will come whinning with joy. BUT the day i sent my then 9 year old daughter to tip her feed into her trough i still cant believe what happend next. she walked up to the child, grabbed her by the shoulder and shook her, WHY! search me, she had never shown agression in any form to anyone or my child before that day, although child have never been alone with her before. somehow i dont think some dogs might be much different.

thanks, I will advise his parents

Ive a friend who's son just bought what he called an AmStaff puppy, said the parents are pedigree American Safford's, it sure looks very like photos of pit bull puppies ive seen? remember spotting on an american kennel website one of their stud males was "dual registered Pit Bull and AmStaff" are the AmStaffs also under the same restrictions. I notice they are a recognised ANK breed? it would seem to me if he doesnt get limit register papers for it at the very least, he may end up in the same situation, ie being told his dog needs to be assessed to decide if its a pure or cross pb? am i mistaken and it couldnt happen to him?

Like so many comments I just read, the only swimmer pups I have bred were on newspaper. never used it since and not a single pup from the same mums "inherited" the problem in later litters. one other "swimmer" although the pups were on a blanket he slid down a gap between the sides and the heat pad and when I pulled him out, bingo, flat chest. it took weeks for his breastbone to regain its former shape. so watch out for that one too.