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You are pretty much on your own those who like stumpys keep them many breed them hence so many available for assessment when the register was opened. Others like the cattledog, of course there are others like my friend who prefers the wirehaired stumpies. Just as if you visit Tarana near Bathurst almost. Every property has coolies, majority Merle they are so popular, the patch pattern Merle. The whole reason there are so many different breeds is so many people have different expectations of what they want in their dog

Hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. Or the pending results so final

You would need to ask Hilton he knew the lines, too far back for me. Sadly he has passed. Ask dogs NSW if if they still have the book Hilton is mentioned in, it has lots of the early history of the breeders Why are you ignoring the very different physique of ACD v ASTCD? Also are you aware that breeding stumpy tail to stumpy tail parents Means two copies in a pup is lethal. Hence stumpy to tailed stumpy yields bigger live litters

Do you realise there are other stumpies, larger with wire coat. My friend has them, he bought from breeders in Qld n NSW. He calls them Smithfield's He has had them on and off for fifty years, always wire coated No one has applied to have them ANKC recognised He has never had a problem finding a replacement when he wants another when the old one dies Are U going to include them? Have existed parallel to the others Tony said

She had no other bloodlines accessible once the ANKC had deregistered all other ASTCD breeder's She made it worse by never selling any on main registration's to anyone else so nothing available save what she kept. .the two types have always been very different, square v longer than tall, lighter Kelpie type v heavier Even with a full tail a stumpy is obvious

A friend bought a pup from me, was about ten months later he rang me voice shaking in shock. "I think Jesse just saved my life" He had been walking along the path beside the Nepean river, which he and Jessie do every day. She loved meeting people for a pat, especially the children. But this day to his surprise she stopped walking at heel and dropping back behind him began growling. He turned to see what she was growling at and to his shock staring at a man holding a knife, the second Jessie knew he saw the man was threatening him she leapt to attack, he caught her and as she struggled to attack the idiot with the knife finally realised Jessie would attack the second she could break free and turned and ran. They can read people's body language as surely as stock.. First thing I impressed on Mick he must train her properly as cattledog's like all herding breeds were bred for initiative . If he didn't, she would train him.

The ACD was always dual purpose, working dog on stock and guardian of their owner and family as well as possessions. I was never allowed to go anywhere unless my dad's dog Blue was with me, no one could approach me unless Blue recognised them as family or friend. when Hilton gave my daughter Berrilyn Blur debutant, even when baby and puppy were ten months old Debbie guarded my daughter's nappy when she dropped it. Hilton had given my daughter's eldest brother a puppy 16 years earlier, Debbie was a grandaughter of that pup . . We gave her brother one of Debbie's pups and when he married and brought his daughter home Bennie and his daughter Rosie assumed guard duty soon as he introduced them to his baby daughter. He rang me 3 days later to apologise for never believing my story that when I was sent to the corner shop with blue as escort, people would cross the road, rather than come within 15 foot of blue and me. He said sue wanted to go for a walk and Benny and Rosie instead of staying at heel went straight to the front either side of the pram despite him telling them to return to heel. As they walked he realised people coming the other way were crossing the street. To see why he went to the other side and level with the dogs. To his amazement as a person walked towards sue and the pram, soon as they began to come less than 20 feet both dogs lifted their lips to show teeth, the person crossed the road. Which was what I had as a child realised Blue had done so many decades before protecting me. When there aren't stock to work a good cattledog will curl up at the door and guard you, your family, your home and anything it associates as yours, put your scent on something, to your dog, that's yours now. Before cars your dog guarded your horse, swag and goods. Good car n ute guards Many a tradie has his ACD to ensure no tools go missing Why you don't see cattledog's in a backyard trying to round up birds like u see Kelpies and border collie's that aren't dual purpose and don't have a herding off button .

Last comment 2020 Wonder how many available Australia wide now

Stumbled on this and the poem, change for changes sake isn't always a good thing... "On a recent poke around the 2nd hand bookstore in Corryong, I found a little treasure written by Neil Hulm. "Where the Snow Grass Grows". His family has had a strong connection and presence in the mountains since before it became a park. I wanted to share one of his poems. A MOUNTAIN HERITAGE LOST Could I be told what a heritage is, Surely it's something we see, Is it to hold, or give away? That's not the way it strikes me. We must have parks, reserves and such, essential, I would think we all agree, But without any votes, a handful of blokes Can close land, from the Plains to the Sea. A fair control is a different role, But the grazing stopped, shut down. Have you ever known of country men For heritage, close down a town? PACK HORSES, PACK SADDLES, GREEN HIDE ROPES, HUTS, SALT LOGS AND HORSE PADDOCK RAILS, STOCKYARDS, DOGS, SHEEP AND CATTLE, AND LONELY STEEP STOCK TRAILS!! Bush fires now burn red hot and turn to black dust, that was thick grass and sticks. Controlled burn was slow on lease years ago, The snow grass remained firm and thick. One heritage strongly guarded, While another one thrown away. In the same place, on the mountain face One banished, the other will stay. Swarms of bees in the Snow Gum trees, Honey birds hover and sing, The beautiful scent from the heather And the herbage that flowers in Spring. 'HUTS, SALT LOGS, HORSE PADDOCK RAILS, STOCK TRAILS, LONELY AND STEEP!!' SURELY, AN AUSTRALIAN HERITAGE LOST, WE FOUGHT FOR, BUT FAILED TO KEEP. Neil Hulm Cochran Horse Treks Peter on Sparkie at the Man from Snowy River Festival Reenactment 2019. National parks so badly managed we watched them burn from Victoria to Sydney, billions of native animals died along with rfs volunteers and families, all land once managed by locals until seized by Govt and given to idiots to mismanage.. Same is happening to all pet owners, govt micromanagement to the point PETA spokesperson boasted "legislation passed to date has been so successful l we anticipate domestic dogs and cats will be extinct within this generation " Sadly you may be documenting the end days of pet ownership if pet owners and blindsided pollies don't wake up in time, or is it too late already?

When I was a kid in the 1950's any cattle dog that didn't have any eye patches was called a Merle. (Absolutely nothing to do with the coat colour of other breeds) Has been so until fairly recently, until people have began calling them clear faced... Bit like the changes in describing a horse's height. 14 hands is 14 X 4 inches. 14.2 hh is 14x 4 inches and 2 inches above that high. Now we see idiots putting 14.5 hh. Hands is not a metric measurement. how on earth can you metric 14.2 1/2 hands high??? It's 2 1/2 inches higher than 14 hands. My stallion Nea was measured at Sydney Royal 14.3 3/4 hands high. iE one quarter of an inch under 15 hands high... Query the advertiser who put metric after . They have a hissy fit. Say Merle today and the clear faced brigade argue that gene isn't in the breed. It isn't.. the word for over a hundred years meant no patches not even a small black dot. Perhaps the question is, tradition or rewriting the past for new political correctness? .

Hilton Sinclair of Berrilyn kennels told me nearly 50 years ago, at the time he was one of the oldest ACD prefixes . he said the spot had been passed down by a very popular dog named Bentley, pretty remarkable really. But some genes can pass like that if only one copy is needed to express it.

Bentley mark is on the forehead of all cattledog's It's neither a type or breed

Yes, only positive reward has been a real winner in the schools

Found that amusing, if the planned extinction is on track there will be few to none left anyway Market gone anyway

The ANKC of the state your pup was bred (ie if in Victoria, Dogs VIC, in NSW Dogs NSW, in Qld, Dogs QLD and so on). will contact the breeder to get a wriggle on and send your registration certificate