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Heres Taz Grown up

Heres one of Taz as a baby

Thats what kelpies are bred to do, At Avenpart they use their dogs to do all the mustering and Yard work there, Their largest paddock is 2400 acres and you could have up to 1500 sheep in the paddock, My Wiz (Avenpart Yackerjak) helps me doing alot of mustering, we do alot of it on horseback, but he has moved mobs of about 7 - 800 sheep on his own. He is not an overly natural paddock dog though, he can do it now. Your quite welcome to come and have a look and a play with the puppies when they are born. It's good for them to be socialised, so even if you don't want one it will be good for them to see other people. I agree with what you say about the Borders, being 'watered down' and 'push button'. Wally2020

In Australia alot of the Border Collies are bred specifically for three sheep trialing and that is all, if you took them out into a 200 acre hill paddock and asked them to get the all the sheep, they would have no idea. Don't get me wrong there are still a few good Border Collies out there that are capable of this, one of these lines is the Hiscock dogs, he is also one of the great trialers of the past. There are a few three sheep people out there at the moment that like to take the dog out of the dog, and then only put back what they want, where as Greg Prnce is all about working with your dogs natural ability. Kelpies here in Victoria, have been bred more specifically for Yard Trials, But there are still quite a few out there, that are good Utility types out there, NSW still seems to be breeding allround dogs. And there are quite a few Kelpies out there that a capable of doing well at three sheep trials and are actually winning a few. Kelpies seem to do better at the trials where the sheep are a more 'feral' as they tend to handle them better than the Borders, A classic case of this was at Ruffy three sheep trial this year where Granan Mac won the open, and alot of the supposedly top Victorian Trialers will not go to because their dogs cannot handle the sheep and they know they won't score a 90, so they won't come. Enough of that topic for now. I have a fairly natural Blue and tan kelpie here, she is very smart. You can ask her to go and grab a specific toy and off she goes and gets it, unless there is sheep around though. I'm also going to have a litter in October Hopefully, It is out of my Avenpart Dog and the bitch is Philscreek. She is very affectionate and very and just loves people. And the dog is a brother to Denises Matti that she had the photos of. Wally2020

Hi Sparty Kelpies can be a bit more full on than BC's, but they are alot of fun. Wally2020

Hi Everyone, Nice to see taht you have joined in Avenglenn. Avenparts are very athletic dogs and have been known to do well in Agility as well as herding as well. Joes Dogs are very good dogs, but they don't do real work, which probably doesn't worry you any way, I have never been to one of Joes schools, have heard mixed things about them, I myself have been to quite a few Greg Prince schools and absolutely love them, and I don't think I would ever go away from this way. It is a gentle approach to training, and shows the dog what you want of them, with little force, it is based on Comfort Zones, Avenglenn may be able to explain a bit more a she is better with words. I have heard that ducks are very good for starting pups off on, I have never tried it myself, as we have never been aloud to have ducks at home. Hi Kavik nice to hear from you can't wait to see the pics, I agree it is fantastic seeing all these pics and hearing from all these different people. Jesomil, I'm glad Joe was so much help to you, he originally started off work on the Elfinvale Stud and I think that is where he got most of his experience and plus he has been breeding for quite a few years now, and has a great knowlege of his dogs. Wally2020

Don't get down to Gippland alot mainly around here and occasionally down around Geelong, where abouts are you from???? I think the puds line can be a bit harder, my Dad has a couple which are a little bit harder, it could be just them though. I don't really know what Go Getta Kelpies are like ( whether they are easy or not), Joe does really well in trials, but he is a really good handler and a very good salesman, it all comes down to what you like at the time of purchase. Wally2020

Hi Kelpie i I'm from near Seymour in Vic, The Farmers trials I have worked at are all around here, Three Sheep Trialling is avery Collie dominated sport and alot of them are worked by retired farmers and that is all they do and train for. I love my kelpies and wouldn't trade them for anything, I think it probably depends on a peronal preference and what else you want to do with them, My red/tan kelpie is a natural yard dog and didn't show any eye or paddock ability until he was three, but he has now been put up to a novice standard and still goes all right against the Collies, he isn't in the finals but he is usually in the top half of the scores, but we only go out there to have a bit of fun. Avenpart has quite a range of dogs, they have different lines that suit different things, I think Avenpart Wump is breeding on fairly well and has placed at Novice three sheep, but he will also work yards and cattle at home. I hope that has helped a little bit Wally2020

Kelpie i I think coming 3rd against to Novice dogs is a very good effort, I think you will over come that stickiness as long as you keep her moving and don't let her stick. I like to do abit of backing with mine just to give them a little bit more confidence with the sheep, and also gives you another lot of of trials you can have a go at and something different for the dogs to keep them keen and interested, not that my dogs have ever lost interest they are mad keen on sheep. Wally2020

I've got three dogs, I've got a red/tan male, who is now 3 and a half and I have done three sheep, yard and Utility trials with him, he has won a couple of farmers three sheep and won and placed in encourage yard trials, he is also the main one I use for all my normal work, He is pure Avenpart. I have a Blue and Tan femae who is about 18 months old now, and she is a very natural paddock dog, but is being very difficult to get on top of. And I have a Black and Tan Bitch who is now a bit over 5 she was given to me a bit over 6 months ago and had not had any sheep experience before she came to me and she is now not going to bad, I don't think she will ever get to a trial standard, but I have joined her to my Avenpart, just to see what he breeds on like and to get a couple of pups for myself, They should be fairly forcefull yard dogs, with hopefully a bit of outside ability, She is Philscreek lines and is very affectionate and loving bitch. I hope that has explained a bit about them, feel free to ask any other questions. Wally2020

Hi Viki and Tracy, What an unusual colour your dogs are they are very pretty though. Who do you train with???? It sounds likes your dogs are going really well. Do you start of in the roundyard or how do you start your dogs off???? Wally2020

Hi Kelpie i The pic looks like Avenpart Zella, she's a nice looking dog, I'm a big fan of Avenpart and like their dogs. Wally2020

Hi there, I don't do anything but sheep with mine, they know how to play ball and occasionally bring it back, Kelpie- I , I like the picture you've got beside your name, who is it??? One Puds Dogs have you got in your dog??? What are you going to train for when you get your sheep??? Sydeny, I like the pictures of xia as well, where did you get her from??? Wally2020

I agree the more things you can d with your dogs the better, I do Utility Three sheep and Yard Trials with my Dogs and they love doing so

Just want to hear from any Kelpie / B/C people out there on what they do with Dogs. I like the Avenpart Lines myself and just want to hear waht other people have and do..