kelpiecuddles

I was going to ask whether anyone had used this particular form and how they had gone with it. how long ago did you apply for yours Alyosha?

Certainly will be, I'll be a happy camper if they say I can put my application in :) I might also be inclined to mention how confusing the language in their form is. LOL

Which is really exactly why I would have preferred to get it in advance so I can use it as my overarching banner for my initial plans and know that it will stay as that if/when I do breed down the track. I may look in to that but it would be a complicated way to do it as obviously I would have but multiple spellings and variations in when doing ANKC app in the interests of securing as close as possible to my preferred, I could register what I really want as a business name and still not get it anyway.

Sorry Rebanne I thought I had included more of the quote, it does state further up on the sheet that it is a requirement BEFORE you can apply for your prefix and also specifically asks for the registration number of your intended foundation bitch as part of the application process. I had tried to call them today but it was there first day back so very busy I guess.

In theory I could fudge it and use Josie's details as she's female, mains registered and the correct breed but she is neutered(which they don't know)and would not be what I would choose as a foundation bitch so it would be dishonest so it's not something I feel I could do.

Just another idea if you are in a rental. We picked up a really old box type in the wall refrigerated aircon for $30 still working. We sat it on a high table outside our loungeroom window so that we could slide the window open and pull the front of the aircon and the plug inside and leave the back sitting outside the window, then we just blocked the gap above it with a piece of plywood cut to size, it was our saviour during the Black Saturday period.

Well I have to say I'm now kicking myself I didn't apply for my prefix a year or two ago just for the sake of securing it!

I guess then my concern becomes if I use it as my 'kennel name' without registering it with the ANKC am I opening myself up to A. people assuming that I breed dogs even though I only train them and copping unwarranted abuse for it and B. having some smartarse decide they like it and registering it with ANKC before me therefore forcing me to change it anyway if I do get to the point of breeding down the track. Certainly makes it a tad interesting. I did try to call them today to ask them for further information but they were closed when I called

:laugh: Honestly, that's all I was really getting at :) I don't expect someone to sell me their pick bitch as my first ever dog, in fact I would have been surprised if they had, however I had hoped to get my prefix and use it as my overarching name for my kennel as I want to train dogs as working animals as well, in order to be able to say - trained by X kennels and then in the future be able to say bred by X kennels when I do finally get there. Seems I now just have to sit on my hoped for prefix and cross my fingers that when I do finally manage to get to the point of breeding hat someone else hasn't come up with something very similar.

Exactly Mr.Mister LOL I get what you are saying about 'serving an apprenticeship' haredown but given the requirements to pass an exam and pay a decent chunk of change to get your prefix I would have though that would serve as part of any apprenticeship too. ]

As I said Haredown it wasn't about me I was just curious whether the ANKC/DogsNSW had made breeders aware that the requirements for new breeders had changed, it seems they probably hadn't.

No it's not about me, it's about all new breeders, I was trying to work it out and was curious where it would stand other people that are in the same situation. I didn't say in that post the hypothetical was about me, I just shared my thoughts on why I had posted the hypothetical

The original ulterior motive was actually simply to test whether existing breeders were aware that they will now have to deal with being approached by people without a prefix looking to get their foundation bitch, something that as we know is hard to get your hands on at the best of times!

Well since Diva has let the puppy out of the bag :laugh: I was trying to work this out earlier as I was in the process of applying for a prefix in order to hopefully secure my prefix of choice. It is now the case that in NSW you must own 'the bitch that you intend to breed' prior to applying for your prefix, so not just a bitch on mains but specifically that one that you will be breeding. Now to me that's a big call for a breeder to make to sell a dog to someone and trust that they will do as they have said and get their prefix when the time comes, etc, they could just as easily change their number and never be seen again. In my mind the expense and effort of applying for the prefix, passing the exam, etc was something that would help to weed out those who just wanted a dog to breed for the sake of breeding.

Thanks for all your votes so far, they are pretty much what I expected which is very interesting for new breeders, I'll share soon ;)

Come on guys, need more than two votes! I promise my ulterior motive isn't nasty or having a go at anyone, I'm just curious about how changes to policies may affect new and existing breeders in the future. :) I would have loved people to include one line on why or why not but figured that was asking too much so settled for an anonymous poll.

Something like a mild sedative in combination with that technique I mentioned might get him over the line as the sedative might calm him just enough to get him through.

She gets a really good rub behind the ears while I'm holding her head in to my chest and she's getting better every time :)

I've been involved in an interesting discussion today and I'd love to see where people sit on this. It's hypothetical, not referring to me or anyone in particular and if you have read the discussion that I'm referring to or suspect you know what I am getting at I'd ask that you don't share it until the end of my little experiment :) I promise to explain more once there are a decent number of responses So here's your hypothetical: A person contacts you as a breeder, they've been involved with your breed for many years as a pet owner and have done a lot of research and decided they really like the type of your dogs and they are hoping to get their foundation bitch from you. They are happy to explain about who they are, why they like your dogs, etc but they haven't yet got a prefix yet because they tell you they can't get one yet because they need to get a bitch to breed first, what do you do? ETA: The poll is anonymous so feel free to just poll and leave if you wish :)

Can I ask have you tried doing his nails from behind? My basset gets very upset when we try to do her nails but we have found a technique that works. I sit in front of her and put her head squashed in to my chest and hold her around the shoulders so she feels safe and 'hugged and can't turn her head to see what is happening, then the vet gets the clippers out wile she can't see and lifts each of her feet towards the back, like you would do clipping a horses hooves. She still doesn't like it but we can get them done this way whereas trying to do them from the front is impossible. Just thought I'd explain our method in case it's something that might be worth a try for you. It's definitely a 2-3 person job for me so I pay the vet and I assist.

Just keep in mind that the misting fans don't work if you are a glasses wearer like me, you spend your whole time feeling like you have cataracts!

Please do introduce yourself to your neighbours and maybe work out a plan. Our little group of neighbours has a plan of what we would do and where we would go which even includes some neighbours bringing their boats in case things get worse and we need to evacuate across water. You'd be surprised how happy many neighbours are to help out once they know you and your pets. If you live on a larger property maybe make up a little code to hang on your gate like a coloured ribbon that lets them know you have evacuated yourself and your animals, if the ribbon is not there they know to call up your dogs if they have time to do it before they have to leave.

You say the ribs can be felt but can they be seen? My basset is slimmer than most show people keep their bassets but I do a lot of exercise with her and she is not skinny, just lean and I like her lean because I like to exercise her at a higher rate than many others might. I don't see her weight as a problem, in fact every vet we've seen has commented on her great condition. A lot of people see normal, healthy dogs as skinny so I'd want to be sure it wasn't simply a young, healthy lean dog

Good point Ellz.

I don't have an issue with people saying 'I will have a litter available on X date', the ones who care usually make that very clear if they are advertising before then