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Perhaps the discussion on medication could be another thread in the Health Forum. This is a Jelly, Roo and Nekh. thread and I'm sure she doesn't want to be reading all this conflicting stuff. Actually this type of thing would be very educational on it's own.

I guess I've been lucky in my over 50yrs of having a fair number of dogs, various breeds, and not ever having one that had SA, frightened of thunder, storms etc. Had a few bossy devils who wanted to rule the roost until they learnt who was boss lol. Reading Jellys experiences I certainly admire anyone trying to handle those situations.

I tried to switch mine to morning feeding for that reason, burn off the calories. Yes they ate the breakfast gladly but drove me crazy in the evening although they got a small bone that wasn't tea!

" Recently, I heard a tip about SA that ties in to this scenario. The owner should hang something from the outside door knob that strongly has the scent of the owner on it. Dog constantly smells the scent thro' the door cracks .... & thinks, 'Momma, you're there!'"

And then proceeds to demolish the door to get to Momma!

Sorry Mita Just this vision popped into my mind.

There's lots of things that a pill wont/cant help. Personal experience - lovely Gordon Setter, 7 years old, never a sick day in her life, started getting lethargic, lying around a lot, eating well, output normal, coat good. Vet trip just to check up. All outward signs fine. Blood tests done. Result, red count down a little. More tests done 4 days later, red count down more. Tested again in 4 days, red count down again. After lot of discussion, an exploritory op done. My girl was riddled with cancer so I had to let her go. Don't tell me she didn't have pain in those weeks while the testing etc was done but apart from slowing down a lot there wasn't any signs. Thankfully I had a Vet who listened to me and knew I knew my dog wasn't right or it could have gone on a lot longer.

So I still question "the not in pain" statements.

I always wonder about that statement 'not in any pain'? How do they know? Friends of mine had an horrific incident after the Ash Wednesday fires. Couldn't find one of their little dogs when they had to get out in a hurry. 2 days later they were back at their property, lost their house. While looking around their little dog came out of the rubble wagging his tail. Poor little fellow was burnt all over his body but he was still happy to see them, wagging his tail despite the agony he must have been in.

Friends still get so upset when they think of him. They had to get the police to shoot him as when they tried to touch him, he screamed.

I've had a few dogs with fairly bad injuries and know there's pain involved but they don't show it like we would.

So how does anyone know if a dog is in pain?

Gorgeous Roo

Few years ago I started showing a dog who was nervy. There is a big break in the showing calender from about October to March up this way. Phoned an obedience club to ask if I could just bring him for socialisation. Fine until I mentioned I use a check chain - horror!!! Anyway talked them into letting me attend. My boy was the only one there going around on a loose lead by my side, the rest in the beginner class (where some had been for ages) were hopeless. Couple asked me how I got my dog going so well. Use a check chain BUT make sure you know how to use it. Next time I went was told not to fill peoples heads with cruelty lol. Makes you wonder if all this 'stuff' is contributing to the dog temperament problems.

Think you said that the person has another dog? Are they loose together in the person's yard? Big or small dog? Just curious!

Probably a long shot - but - are you friendly with your Vet or anyone working with the Vet? If so, perhaps they could give you a lead on someone very dog orientated who might be able to mind Roo safely during the day.

Oh dear, guess it's a bit difficult to tell the girl/s they can't go out! Roo seems to bond very deeply with certain people, needs to have 'one person' security. At least there appears to be a reason for her escaping, she's a smart girl! Thank goodness she made it home OK! Wish you all the luck in the world with her.

So sorry to hear this, Jelly. From reading previous posts I assume the uni girls had her physically with them all the time and she appeared to settle ok? Was there something different this time? If the girls didn't know how she escaped, was she perhaps locked outside for a time? Ok so I'm a suspicious old dear, lol, but maybe there's a reason for her escaping, just like to know all the details

I've got Ïncident alerts""on the PC. You sign up and they send you an email of any incidents within 150kms. Good early heads up!

You can safely wait until she is older before speying. As said it won't stop UTIs and,like Pers., I've had a lot of bitches over 50+ years and never had a case of Pyo. Just remember to lock the door lol.

When we had fires in the nearby National Park and could see the glow from home, my van was ready to go, dog crates, water, food and box of home essentials ie insurances, cd photos etc. even had a spare crate for Duck. If I had seen a flame, I was out of here. Don't think there's much chance of flooding here in the Mallee but fire is a constant risk. This is the first year since I've been here that there's been no fires locally. (Hope I haven't mossed myself lol).

Oh Jellyblush, all fingers crossed for you both!

Would it be possible during your time off to try Roo with either the students or daycare. You could stay around for a while to watch her then if she settles a bit perhaps leave for a short time, come back, check her again and leave for another short spell. If she is going ok then increase the time you stay away, maybe start with 10 mins. Might take a day but you would have a fair idea if she is going to cope. Good luck.

Internal wire doors that lock so the outer solid doors can be left open when it's hot.

Tdierikx, how do you get such great photos? Mine always move just as I click, end up with just a bum vanishing or a nose on the camera lol. Love the little black/white guy on the sofa

Sounds awful. I had a dog with a saliva gland leaking which caused a laqrge swelling under the jaw, it didn't worry him but it didn't have those complications. Perhaps the Vet could get them an appointment with a specialist so they can get more information on possible outcomes. At least then they would know what they are facing as their Vet says he/she knows nothing about this type of thing.

Happy Birthday and may there be many more

Having had 'funny'ears on Min Pins, Silky Terrier and Collies over the years I'd start taping now, It's the surest way. Massage can sometimes strengthen the cartilidge and defeat the purpose. Good luck.

Couldn't get a clam shell up here so I got $5 small plastic wading pool with the blow up sides. Abby loves it, Mick watched her splash and roll about. Our 44degree day they were both in together. Next hot ún I might get in too!

Yes, please tell me what the Vet gave for the balance issue! I've had it for nearly 7 months now and reckon I'm going to go crazy. Seriously considering going to my Vet as all the Specialists aren't doing one thing

I've seen dogs on flat collars, head thingys, etc that people have no control over too. Worst I saw was a boxer strung up on one of those head collars, hot weather, gasping for breath and then collapsing and they still get recommended for use. Seen dogs choked on check chains, dogs on flat collars towing the handler along. My retractable's have always been used for fun walks on big and small dogs and I wouldn't use anything else.

Thanks, Weisnjac, for the Min Pin result.