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Last I knew, there were still a few places left, so certainly send Steve an email. Yes, Dianella is NOR

Yeh that's a long time, especially every day of every week. Occasionally mine are crated for 8 hours a day when OH is away, but it's rare. If it's a 10 hour day for her, I'd be more inclined to leave her in the laundry or bathroom, where she can at least get up and move around a bit... play with her toys etc.... it could just be human emotion, but that would "feel" better to me, for that length of time, than crating. Presuming she's properly house/toilet trained, she would hold her bladder for that length of time inside. I've worked myself up into huge guilt trips before when they've been crated all day, only to walk in the door and find them emerging from under the blankets with a big stretch and a yawn... then it's off for a nice walk and they are fine! They sleep a massive amount of the time... unless there are cats to chase outside of course

KatLek - is crating her inside, or putting her in the laundry or the bathroom an option? It really sounds as though leaving her outside all day just isn't going to work.

Well JRT's are not the most peaceful breed Mine are crated inside whenever we're not home. That way I know they can't annoy the neighbours and they can't get into any trouble or mischief - they're safe and quiet. I realise I'm lucky though, my OH works from home so he is in and out all day. It's a luxury not everyone has, I know. KatLek, what about keeping the dog/s in a small room like laundry or bathroom when you're not home, if crating isn't an option? For situations like a cat at the fence - I would just have to bring mine inside. When we are home, they spend quite a bit of time outside, and need exercise and plenty of chews to occupy them, or they will just create their own entertainment... be it barking at the birds (or at thin air), chasing each other around while yapping their heads off... or having a wrestling match which sounds like they're killing each other :shakehead: Any barking that gets too much, we go out and "tell them off" and "to be quiet", loud enough so the neighbours hear us doing it We ran into one of the ladies the other week and she mentioned that she often hears us telling them to be quiet I think that helps - if your neighbours know you aren't just oblivious to the noise. At least you're not alone, I think all dog owners go through this

The park is in Dianella and the workshops are all day... I'm sure I read somewhere 9am til 5pm? - or thereabouts, but full days anyway

I think it'd be really interesting to see Steve work with a baby and see how they respond to him

*bump* Great news Staffymum

Hi all, Great news... the details for the Perth workshops are now up on the K9 Force website Take a look at this link K9 Force Perth Workshops There is heaps of info on what will be covered over the two days, cost, etc. Cheers

It's not too late... we NEED PEOPLE!! Please send Steve an email to [email protected]

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:D Laughing at the mental image of my JRT's being bullied There is a story about one of my girls chasing off a Wolfie at the park once, he just wanted to play, but she wasn't interested, so told him, well, not very politely really, to "please leave"... should have seen that Wolfie run Good luck Michael with finding the right dog for you... I think you've made the right decision

That's because we live at the @rse end of the country, MILESSSSS from anywhere. Did you know Perth is the most isolated city in the world? :p Yes please, all of the above

Come on Perth people! Where has all the interest gone :p K9 has sent the PM out to everyone who was initially interested, but so far there hasn't been enough response to make it happen. Get replying to the PM from K9 Force if you want a Workshop in Perth!!

No need to ever take the crate away. Instead of a kennel or a basket, she has a crate My dogs are 3 yrs and 1 yr old and they sleep in their crates every night and they go in there whenever we are out, when we have visitors, etc. a puppy can't tell you when he/she wants to go to the toilet and thus ask you to open the door. You just keep taking them out to their toilet place regularly, and you'll always be one step ahead of them Thinking about it, if I'm home of an evening and have my dogs inside with me, loose not crated, I would let them out every 1-2 hours and they always pee - and they are adults, not pups. They can be fast asleep on the couch but when I say "wanna go wees?" they are at the back door ready to go in a flash :D

4x4 metres is a big space for a small dog. Yes she will toilet in there. It won't have the same affect as a crate at all. This is something you already tried, and it didn't work out because she scrached, cried, etc and it kept you awake. My guess is you'll get the same reaction if you try her in there again. What's the point :D The advice you've been given to crate train your pup (and the new one when it comes along) is the way to go.

How long is a piece of string? I'd say each pup would be different with crate training. I personally don't start them in our room - I have them in the laundry or living room - away from the human's bedrooms. I may be wrong but I'd imagine that her being able to see you and knowing you are there but ignoring her, would contribute to her demand to be let out. I start crating them immediately 6-8 wks old - after a play outside and been to the toilet, I put them in their crate, close the door and leave them. It may take 5 minutes, it may take 50 minutes, for them to settle down. Then I leave them - 20-30 minutes to begin with, and get them out before they start crying again. Straight outside to the toilet, more play time, and repeat the process. Then build up from there. The trick is to never go to them or get them out while they are carrying on crying, barking etc. Personally I've had pups at 10-12 weeks old that will, by that stage, go in their crate at bed time (10-10.30pm) and sleep all thru the night til 6.30am with no crying and no messing their beds. I may not have bred and sold many, but those people who have bought puppies from me have never had a moments trouble from them, not on the first night, not ever - and I know that is due to the ground work I put in with crate training them from the onset. They all bought crates for their pups and the pups all settled in like ducks to water ;)

Hi Mel, Congrats on the new arrivals They sound like strong healthy babies to me, feeding every hour. Nothing wrong with that at all. There are far more experienced breeders than myself who may have more advice for you, if you post this in the Breeders Community section. Good luck ;) Edited: As I said - far more experienced than I!! I'll stick with the warm good luck wishes, I'm safe with those

Hi Anthony, Have you read up on crate training? I recommend you read this thread. It's a little unfair to have the pup sleep in your room, but then complain about interrupted sleep ;) Puppies interrupt sleep, LOL, they are babies - but a much better option is to have them crated, OK in your room to begin with but as they get older, in another room away from yours. They learn - it is their bed, it is sleep time. Trust me - they learn, I've never had one yet that doesn't! Also if crated, she won't have the opportunity to wee on your bedroom floor anymore; you take her outside, she goes to the toilet, you make a fuss of her, and you bring her inside and put her in her crate. Just a word of warning... I think it's a very big expectation to have Arwen show the new pup "the ropes" in 2 weeks time. Having an older, trained dog does help with a new pup yes, but Arwen is still only a baby herself... so be very prepared to be training two pups, not just one, two weeks from now

Hi Annie, Tentatively looking like August at this stage...

It's all under control, I'm getting things happening

Gillian, I have the same problem as you... only that mine is in the form of a 7kg Jack Russell :D Strong little buggers though I'm telling ya! Thinking of my lot racing through the house... I can't imagine a Great Dane doing this You're so lucky to be going to that workshop, I have *bumped* the Perth thread a couple of times in the hope of getting K9Force over here. Fingers crossed this happens :cool:

*BUMPing again* Has anything more happened Maybe I'll PM Chicko

Look at all these Perthites!! I live in Yokine and we just bought a 2nd place in Dianella I've heard good things about Perth and am meant to be going there if I ever get my act together. It's just that Wednesday night's aren't the best for me :cool:

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Absolutely brilliant news Al I know how hard you work with Bear, and all the time & effort you put into your training. I'm so happy that it's all falling into place for you both and you're getting the results Keep up the good work