~Myschafis~

Lol yup you were well done :)

LOL!!! Your the best Aunt ever!!!! All over it!

nearly ready to pop

How many bubbas?

We have a keeshond litter due on the 11th of July

Oh Mel! There will always only be one Webster!

I would tend to agree that certain breeds are happier to adjust to new circumstances. I guess the thing is, what makes responsible breeders decisions to rehome any more valid than those of a pet home.... Pet Home - Had a baby dont have enough time now (Breeder - Had another litter, too many dogs, dont have enough time for all the dogs) Pet Home - Had to move new place wont accept dogs (Breeder - Was too old to show or breed, wanted a retirement home) Pet Home - Grew too big doesnt fit in my lifestyle now. (Breeder - Didn't grow to be show quality, need to make way for something that is) I understand that in a lot of cases breeders put their heart and soul into making the gut wrenching decision to ensure that dog is going to get a better lifestyle than they are currently getting, and it would appear that pet owners are quick to dump at a pound or not screen prospective new homes to the level we would perhaps aspire to. I also understand that not all breeders would agree with the above reasons for rehoming, however I can guarantee they are common reasons pet owners and breeders do rehome their dogs. When you look at it like that I guess I dont see so much the difference between the reason why as to the how, exactly as Espinay said.

Whipitgood..I can see every point from both sides of this as a reasonable statement to make,..... Do you personally get that instant disheartened feeling when you hear of pet owners rehoming their dogs because of whatever paticular circumstance caused them to do so?

Hi All, Just general thoughts here. Some breeders over the duration of their time with their individual breeds will rehome paticular dogs due to multiple cicrumstances, perhaps looking for a retirement home, at a Junior age didn't turn out as expected, numbers get too high and tough decisions need to be made to move forward, so on and so forth. I understand that this can be a controversial topic in the best of circumstances, for the purposes of this discussion we are presuming that we are 'pro' rehoming for whatever the circumstance may be. My question is as breeders it is largely frowned upon when a pet owner rehomes, to generalise the consensus appears to be the negativity due to the decision not being an 'acceptable' reason from our point of view. I am opening the floor for all thoughts on this, I am not posing a paticular opion on it personally, just interested in thoughts from others?

How are we going with this?

Yup probably won't get you very far...but to put it into perspective the repayments on $140 000 would look something like $220/week. That leaves, $330 for rates, electricity, water, food, phones, mobiles, petrol, rego, christmas, etc etc etc That $330 will soon be gone...

Hi All, Just thought I would add a bit of perspective on the home loan front. ( I am a lender ) I can tell you exactly a single person with no children on an income of $32000 with no other debts has a borrowing capacity of $125 000 Variable or $142 000 Fixed. Hope that helps.

I am not sure that I agree Typey is 'fashion', type to me is what makes a breed 'type', what makes a breed 'unique'... Nothing to do with whether or not big coats are in this season etc. Just my interpretation

I like that quote.... I think in breeds where the gene pool is limited its hard and/or you throw in a 3rd wheel being health issues. When you are trying to pick a dog/bitch with a line free of health issues, that is sound and typey sometimes can really be a task in itself, you arne't willing to throw the baby out with the bath water so what do you do. Lose the characteristics of the dogs that make them 'that' breed, to have a sound, healthy dog. I think where people have the option, they would just take small steps in what they hope to be the right direction and PRAY that no recessives bite em in the butt I truly dont know if there is a 'right' answer to this question, they are right when they say, you can have a sound healthy mutt, that is a mix of 50, you can have an unsound dog displaying every hall mark of the breed. You can have a sound, type dog with everything going for it with a pedigree riddled with health issues. Which point do you sacrifice to move forward. (Note: For the purpose of this discussion, for 'type' I am referring to breed charecteristics that are somewhat aesthetic the spots that make a dally a dal... the spectacles of a keeshond, the rolls of a sharpei, the colour and coat of an OES etc, the things that make that breed unique.)

My question is more faced with if these were your two options full stop, whether due to limited gene pool... As a judge these are the two dogs presented in the ring etc. Perhaps you have the ideal bitch, but the dogs you are faced with either have one or the other...all dogs have faults I hear quite a lot any mutt can be sound but it doesn't distinguish a breed, therefore type is more important.. Unfortunately it would seem this is the reality for some breeds with a smaller gene pool they dont have the luxury of having it all.

Hi All, I am opening the floor to a discussion for different thoughts. For aspirants, judges, breeders, exhibitors etc. I hear two scenarios. Dog A: Not quite structurally sound, but excellent breed 'type' displaying all hall mark characteristics of said breed. Dog B: Structurally sound as a bell but lacking breed type. I am hearing any mutt can be sound but has no breed type and there in is how a pure bred society is differentiated, I hear a breed cannot have correct 'type' without soundness. I am sure a lot of people are going to say its a culmination of the two, you need a sound typey dog, you need to choose the closest. Would you sacrifice the hall marks of a breed on a sound dog, for breeding etc?

Im going through the same general process in this area. I am from Cessnock, but the vet I pick for the xrays I want to continue on with for routine care and in the event of a pregnancy do xrays, prog tests, etc etc.... The only vet in the general vicinity that I have considered reasonably priced is Green Hills vet, they are the only ones who took the time to stop and talk to me about my needs and requests for my dogs and offered to come in for a personal appointment to meet the vets and discuss and concerns I have for my dogs. I found that care refreshing.

I hope all our japanese judges are ok

I like the oz entries systems, the fees can get quite costly though if you enter large quantities of shows... Perhaps of ozentries offered a different payment system other than CC to reduce their fee's

Good to know we were getting xrays done next friday

I agree we were told the same thing directly at Melbourne Royal

I have to say I totally agree with you here and yes that's just my opinion. I think the UK way of showing is more sensible including moving at a sensible pace and not like a bat out of hell! I am also an advocate. Bitches in season are a PITA and if they are done with their breeding days but are still young fit and healthy enough to still be a great show bitch and enjoy doing it, why not lesson the risk of cancers, pyo etc and enjoy are lovely older girls doing their thing. I dont agree with desexed dogs, you can hide a multitude of problems with desexing a dog. However some shifty vet work can also hide a multitude of sins these days also I suppose.

Thanks for that Aidan Well I think Chartze heard about our little plan... we are just back from the vets and Chartze has slipped a disc in his back and he is back to crate confinement for a little longer yet with supervision. He sure knows how to milk it!!!

Yes he was not impressed with 'alone' up until this point he hasnt had the chance to be alone. Now we have crossed the hurdle that he is OK with the other dogs in another pen alongside them, and inside at night.... The hard part is, me leaving him and having no idea what he is up to. I hate the not knowing...

We are trialling different ideas with him, we have just gone down to bunnings and bought a whole heap of material for a new husky safe concrete run that can be ajoined to the side of the other dogs runs, so he can be near them, but not in with them so they cant be silly together. Myshka and Chartze is about a zero to no chance of being calm together, Myshka's fault not Chartzes. Its really hard because I cant exercise him at all, yet he still has all the energy he normally would, at first it was OK because he was in a bit of pain so kept him calm, now he is on the mend well....you would think he has saved all those beans up just for this. Inside Chartze has a free reign, he doesnt venture outside much at the moment without a lead. We are going to trial having him outside next to the other guys and see if he is content just sitting and watching them... I rang a couple of behavourists today, advice was, seperation is a must, but just increase the amount of time gradually if we try this with no improvement call in the hired help... Hopefully he will respond to seperation in baby steps, the $750 I was quoted for their help is a bit too much of a hit to the hip pocket right now. So far though, he is content in a crate in the backyard next to the other guys...not a permanent solution and obviously cant leave him like that, but at least he is comfortable not being near us. ... OUCH on the cruciate, I hope for your sake your surgery didnt cost as much as mine, being a cruciate though im not sure you would've faired much better. We have a dreadful breed to be 'confined patients' though. They seem to forget they aren't invincible