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I won't be changing their diet. The breeder can feed his dogs what he thinks is best and I will do the same. It will be interesting to see if he says anything when he sees mine.

I don't know about feeding them Bambi. They already have discerning palates!

It was more annoying than disappointing. He hasn't seen them since early November last year and I must admit that these 2 were not in very good condition and he actually judged them. At that time they refused to eat dry food and I was struggling to find something they would eat. Since I have started them on BARF they have actually done more winning at shows as well. My oldest boy has actually beaten my youngest girl each time now and according to that breeder, she is 'exquisite'. He didn't breed either of them either. The breeder who did breed my oldest and youngest has seen them and is really impressed at their condition even though my oldest now keeps beating his brother. I thought they would love fish as well considering they are Norwegian. They can actually be fussy about what fish they eat. They will eat mackeral under sufference. They love red or pink salmon and sardines but I haven't tried them on pickled herrings. It is a bit hard to find any moose or elk around to try them on.

I was surprised as well. He wasn't too bad. There were only a couple of dogs he would show any aggression to if they came too close to him while he was in his crate at shows. Now he doesn't worry about them at all. The change in diet also helped him overcome some of his fears as well.

I am not worried about what I am feeding them now. Their condition has improved so much. Thanks mainly to Espinay and Steve's advice. Last time I heard, this breeder fed his dogs Bonnie Working Dog with the occasional chicken frames and necks. I know what I prefer feeding mine and will stick to it. I am not saying that my dogs are better than his as he does have some very good dogs but I think mine are in better condition.

Probably Riley. I doubt he will change his mind though and I won't change mine either.

Thanks Zamystik. What ever happens, I will be glad when the Specialty is over and done with! The breeder who said that you have to feed dry actually bred only one of mine. I can see that my first post could be confusing. The breeder who said what great condition the girl was in bred 2 of mine but not that girl. A canine naturopath actually recommended the change to BARF quite sometime ago for my boy to see if it helped him. He wouldn't eat raw chicken mince until about a month ago.

Mine get fish oil tablets every day and a fish meal once a week. They also have a whole egg, including the shell, once a week.

I started feeding my oldest 2 Elkhounds on a modified BARF diet a few months ago and switched them to a complete BARF diet over a month ago. I keep in regular contact with the 2 breeders I got 3 of my dogs from but didn't tell them about the change as I didn't see the need to. The breeder of 2 of mine saw my oldest girl for the first time in 3 months at the chiropractor and couldn't get over what great condition she was in. She had gone from being very skinny to being the perfect weight with a great coat that actually had a shine to it. The breeder wanted to know what I had been feeding her and I told her my girls diet. My boy that I am feeding BARF to has gone from being sometimes dog aggressive to getting along with all dogs just from the change in diet. Last night I was speaking to the breeder of my oldest girl who has been breeding Elkhounds since 1978 and he was commenting on the coat condition of some of the Elkhounds at the show he was at. He was saying how dry their coat was and that they didn't look to be in very good condition. He asked what my dogs coats were like as he hasn't seen my dogs since November last year. I told them that apart from 2 of the girls loosing some of their coat, their coats were great. We got talking and I said that I am giving them fish oil tablets and that I feed them all 1 fish meal a week. I also told him what I was feeding my oldest 2. He was horrified that I was not feeding them any dry and said that dogs have to eat dry food as it is not good for them not to eat it. I told him that these 2 will not eat any dry which was why I started them on BARF. The only dry they will eat is Nutro which I will feed these 2 in emergencies or when travelling. I guess he will see how good their condition is at our breeds first Specialty Show at the end of next month! I doubt he will change his mind but I can't understand why he is against BARF. My vet is amazed at the condition of my dogs and how clean their teeth are. They jokingly complain that we do not visit them enough. We normally only have to go to the vet for vaccinations. The vets do not have a problem with us feeding BARF yet a breeder does!

Yes they can still get KC when they have been vaccinated with C5. Mine came down with it and they have always been vaccinated with C5. They did get a milder dose of KC though.

I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your beautiful young Affie girl, Fifi.

My yougest are fed Nutro. http://www.nutro.com.au/ My others are fed BARF which includes raw chicken mince, chicken wings, chicken frames, chicken necks, lamb flaps, fish, liver, vegetables, yoghurt, cottage cheese and eggs.

I have never tried one on my hair. The dogs get the good brushes, I get the cheap ones.

A lot of people are like that. At first my daughter could not believe how much they were. I let her use it on our Afghan and she loves it too. I will have to see if I can find the others I had, otherwise I will have to buy a couple more.

Not that many Affie owners use it now at shows, Griff. Most people wouldn't know the difference between a Mason Pearson and other brushes.

I get all of my dogs bones at our local pet warehouse. They are the cheapest place around here.

I give both my Elkhounds and Afghan chicken frames, chicken necks, chicken wings and lamb flaps. All of them are fed raw. I have also fed them lamb necks, beef necks and briskets.

That is a great idea. I might have to get the same done with mine. I would hate to lose it after all these years.

I also love them, ES. I must see what it is like on the Elkhounds but I know it is fabulous on the Afghan. I must admit, I guard it with my life at shows!

Luckily my old one is still in great condition. I wouldn't buy one these days. They are even more expensive now.

30 years ago when I bought my first Old English Sheepdog, Mason and Pearson were the only brushes you would use. Even then they were expensive. I have still got one of them and now it is one of the brushes I use on our Afghan. Do people still use Mason and Pearson brushes?

It worked for us, TO. I couldn't get a jar of wheat germ so I used 2/3 cup of it instead.

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I fed 2 of mine Satin Balls and Lamb Flaps when I wanted to put weight on them Here is the recipe for Stain Balls I used. 500g ground beef (one with plenty of fat in it) 250g pkg cream cheese 1 jar all natural peanut butter 1 jar (smaller of the sizes) wheat germ 1 doz egg yolks 1 cup or so of flaked oats soaked in heavy cream Mix up, form balls, freeze, feed as treats or food supplement.

My medium sized dogs love them and so do my large ones.