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Obviously, the rangers and police wanted the dogs off public areas as soon as possible. They decided the dogs had more potential for harm. This sends a message to the owner - and to other similar owners, better than impounding the dogs and euthanasing them later would. The result is the same for the dog. Perhaps the owner will now improve his dog keeping. Not the dogs' fault, the fault of the owner, but if several people learn from this, fewer people will be bitten, and fewer dogs euthanased. These dogs ticked 3 important boxes of triggers for dog attacks. 1/ The dogs were a pack 2/ Dog/s had pups 3/ Dogs wer entire Given that, and obviously inadequate fencing, a dog attack was very likely. Dogs which tick triggers must be contained. No, not the dogs' fault - but owners need to receive any and every message by means they understand. The number of dog attacks is not large, given the population, and the number of kept dogs. 90% of attacks are preventable.

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They lie. They buy pups from wherever is best and most economical. They obviously expect people to believe that accidental litters are spoodles, cavoodles whatever, or Labradors. They will buy accidental litters, from byb, from registered ANKC breeders, and from puppy farms. Pet shops in large suburban shopping centres turnover a lot of pups. The "accidental litters" would never fill the glass bowls they keep them in. And they do keep full records of where the pups were purchased. Name and address of breeder, type of pup, sire and dams breed, date of birth - so, if the pups fall down dead, they can hit the breeder up for a refund. It is very unlikely that they would pass this name on to any purchaser of any pup. Utter liars.

Important for a first dog owner, but experienced owners can probably do it themselves.

It is very long and rambling, and the purpose is quite difficult to understand. It seems to be concerned about the threat of hydatits, and also the dingoes caching parvo. I think. Probably both valid - but hydatits is a problem in every public place where dogs go. More so in colder wetter areas, but everywhere really.

The lessons of Rozzie the resucer, Mrs. Gard the TS breeder and exhibitor, owners of pitbulls, owners of docked dogs, plus other breeders/owners targetted by the RSPCA have been forgotten or ignored by the majority, apparently. Breeders have been following the progression of the RSPCA from cruelty investigator/prosecutor to mega business and have decided to walk away. RSPCA is too powerful to even contemplate challenging. The governments wish to continue the input from the RSPCA, so give them more power to appease them When they are the most powerful institution in the country, there will be NO animal cruelty apart from random acts - puppy farms will flourish - but dogs will be so scarce that owners will cease abusing them. A good outcome perhaps?

The letter from the Q government states clearly the position of governments regarding pet shops. They will not ban the sales of pups in pet shops because PIAA is too powerful and they are in favour of pups being sold in shops. Pet shops source their most profitable live-stock from puppy farms. The supply is constant and reliable It does not matter what lobbying there is, or what people want, puppy farms will never close while pet shops continue to sell pups. Any regulations enacted will impact on all breeders. Small breeders are less able to bear legislation requiring expensive permits, or buildings, or fees. Puppy farms, however have sufficient income to over ride any small difficulties. To a politician, a puppy farm = a registered breeder = a byb. They cannot envisage any difference at alll. Any legislation will affect every class of breeder but it is the small time "family" hobby breeder who will be forced to close. Sorry, Oakway purebred dogs have been dead as dodos for a couple of decades.

Poor dear lady, poor dear little dog, now deceased Owner of the attack dogs should be found, prosecuted and fined. Not the usual ridiculously tiny amount, some thousands.....enough to make him more careful. Both dogs should be euthanased. It was a pack attack, and matters not which one did the biting. The owner of the attacked dog should receive sufficient compensation to buy another dog, and for psychological trauma. Untill bogans get the message that it is not satisfactory for their dogs to be killing everything in sight, things will never improve and little dogs will never be able to walk the streets in safety - unless their owners take revolvers with them to deter attacking dogs. Happens all too often. Every week, another attack makes the papers. How many dont?

Centenary (???) Motel at Oxley. Handy to the grounds, extremely dog friendly, have grassy areas where the dogs can toilet, have a run etc. They encourage dogs, and have room for dog trailers. Rooms are ok and clean, breakfast served, and there is a dining room. It is on the service road off the highway. I suppose the address is Ipswich Road.

Vet p;roducts direct is a good site. Whilst the ticks are "getting full", ie, ingesting the animal's blood, they are also injecting toxin,which is what does the damage and causes paralysis. It is extremely important to pull off every tick as soon as you see it. Doing this will increase your pet's chances. The longer the tick remains on the dog = the more toxin is injected = the dogs chances of survival are reduced. It's not difficult to do - simply check the dog over, and if you find a tick, grasp it firmly between thumb and forerfinger amd yank it out. You can buy little tick removers, but they are unnecessary Our emergency clinic saw 34 dogs with ticks after hours on the weekend. Only the use of products and vigilance will determine that your dog is not one of them

Puppy buyers don't care, they will happily buy non registered pups. Since PDE, they would probably prefer crossbred. Because they know there are lots of diseases in purebreds, and crossbreds are healthier. It's easier to find a pet shop or a puppy farm than a registered breeder, because of numbers advertising. Canine councils have not been very interested. They do seem to be more proactive now. Too little, too late. Most exhibitors and breeders don't care. Very few are interested in taking any action. They suspect that anyone making waves is a weirdo radical dope smoking ratbag. Many breeders and exhibitors have left because the fees are too high, or the regulations where they live make it difficult, or they wont keep an undocked dog. In summary - the majority of pet owners don't care,. the majority of breeders don't care, and the canine councils don't care. Why bother?

Lord save us, ban them all!!

Watching the pre games hoo ha, I felt very sorry for India. Stories centred on cockroach infested accommodation, dengue fever, improperly built venues, and it was all doom and gloom. It's pleasing to see the events seemingly conducted without any problems. I wonder about spectators. Could the 'normal' Indian family afford tickets, which I belive are highly priced?

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The program focused on factory farmed chickens and pigs, particularly sow stalls. Nothing about dogs. I thought the representative of the farmers (ie, pigs) was very unconvincing as his viewpoint was that the sows if out, would return to the sow stalls. Ho hum

I gathered the courtcase referred to BioSpot, not Frontline etc? Some of the plaintiffs said they had used Frontline previously without problems, on the animals affected by Biospot. Dogs have had bad reactions to some of the spot ons, including Frontline and Revolution. I have never heard of Bio Spot. One of the case histories says the active ingredient is permethrin, and the product acts by the product entering the bloodstream. Not surprising that the animals had fits.

Well, I hope you didn't have those little black things in your loungeroom ..... you rogue breeder you! Actually, come to think of it one of my litters spent quite a bit of time in the BED-room one cold winter, so I guess that would put you in the rogue category too. Stoopid people have got the wrong end of the stick, yet again! Souff Well I have my Whelping box set up in the bedroom! Why would a "family member " who sleeps in that room suddenly get "put out" at one of the most crucial times of her life???? AND I plan to move the puppies into the family room so they can become acustomed to the "sights and sounds" once they are mobile and old enough. I must have passed "Rogue Breeding 101! If you are in Victoria, you will be breaking the law. Not knowing about the law is insufficient excuse, as others have found to their cost. Victoria does not want to shut puppy mills, it wants to get registration money from them. And registered breeders. Puppy mills are more likely to be able to fulfill the requirements. a

It seems, from the first post, as if all the suggestions you made (above) have been tried without success. If the other dogs are not barkers and one is, debarking is necessary. Lots of dogs are debarked, and seem to suffer no ill effects. Better debarked than dead, in my opinion.

If you added that to your resume that is used for people wanting sitters to read and choose someone, I don't think you would have any trouble getting any sitting. Good luck

Friend's brother died a couple of months ago. Friend is preparing the house for sale. I went with her, and was sitting in the lounge. She was in the kitchen. The dog which was lying beside my feet, stood up and looked towards the back door. The back door then closed. No wind that we could discern. Dog lay down again, nothing else happened

Could someone tell the pups' breeder about the Huskies at PP Chermside? There is nothing to indicate a pup is stolen to a pet shop, and people steal them to buy drugs and DO sell them to pet shops, or at least make PP aware of stolen huskies?

You must not refer to dogs or cats as pets. They are no longer pets, they are now Companion Animals. I believe Peta coined that one. Pets is a pornographic word, and not politically correct in this modern world where animals are to have rights. And we are not trainers or owners we are life coaches. Of course companion animals with rights would need life coaches. I see job openings for companion animal psychologists. the pack leader would modify the behavior of the pack. He wouldn't care whether the pack enjoyed it or not. Dogs i've "motivated to perform" or "behave the way I want them to" (formerly referred to as "training") seemed to me to be enjoying the process. they enjoyed the time spent with their leader, and they enjoyed learning something new, as well as gaining satisfaction from getting it right, and I never train with food or toy treats (at a lowish level, anyhow) so their reward was approval and success. But I suppose it is reasonable to drill a hole in their skulls to ascertain this. We do need scientific proof of things we already know. And, of course, a cuphook could be screwed into the hole later, and used to hold the poo bags when on walks. Or the shopping bags. I'd rather prefer the money spent on scientifically qualfying things already known, and not dreadfully important into more shelter places, so fewer dogs die, more education on choosing the correct dog, so the dog is not dumped, on providing training videos for loan to the public,so they could learn how to train their dogs It would be nice to see the funds actually benefiting dogs, instead of providing a wage for someone researching nonsense. What a world we exist in

How terrible, there are some horrible people in this world. Something similar happened to my Japanese Chin. The Chin gradually regained his confidence but it was so sad that someone would do that to him. He was quite badly injured. Broken ribs, damage to his liver and spleen, bruising all over, and a broken leg and tail. Obviously been thrown around and/or kicked. Take him to the vet to ensure he is not physically hurt Sometimes a dab of Vegemite makes food more interesting. 1/2 a Periactin tablet (chemist, over the counter) 1/2 hour before one of his meals will give him appetite. Put him on a calming drug for dogs (maybe Valium or clomicalm or something to keep him calm and serene, ask the vet) Allow him to get over it in his own time. All visitors could give him pats and treats. Don't let them force themselves on him, but once he is a little curious, they can give him a treat or drop or throw a treat on the floor for him, if he wont allow anyone close enough to give him the treat He has been frightened/hurt. He is not behaving badly. He is behaving as you would expect. If some bloody robber knocked me around, I would stay away from strangers, he is behaving like a sensible dog. Give him a bit of time - ie, a month or so, before spending money on behavourists. He will probably recover on his own but a day or two is not long enough. The owners may need to show him some leadership and give him some reassurance. I hope he recovers and thrives, poor little man. Be happy he was not killed - lots of smaller dogs in burgled houses lose their lives, not because they are a threat, but because the burglars felt like killing something. And they were basically bogans - as these were. You need a big dog to protect the little dogs, or bars on all your windows Edited. After the robbery, I obtained an adult rottweiler. There was another attempted burglary within a month. The door was broken open, nothing was taken, the rottweiler, which had been inside, was outside, and there were footprints in the gardens near the fence where someone jumped out. No problems after that at all

The program isn't $160 enticing as far as I am concerned. Dr Mcgreevy has written a few books on behaviour, and seems to consider himself an expert on equine behavior. I haven't heard anyone in the upper echelons of horse competition (dressage, 3de etc) speak well of him. I read some rubbish he published once and that would put me off attending any of his lectures. Sorry.

Riley was the packleader, and was giving her confidence. I have no idea whether she has sufficient confidence to overcome the aggression on her own but it is obviously due to lack of the pack leader. You might try to replace him when she meets other dogs but probably wont be able to. and she is probaby grieving Maybe ask a behavorist?