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How to get dew claws off?
Princess Fru Fru replied to WanaHavanese's topic in General Dog Discussion
You won’t find that many vets will remove dew claws simply because it’s essentially been banned — unless for legitimate medical reasons. Simply wanting to prevent an injury that may not ever occur is not a sufficient reason to perform the surgery. There is also so much evidence and studies around showing that dew claws are necessary and can often prevent injury (ligament and tendon damage) as dogs use them to grip the ground when running and they are also used when eating bones. I’ve had terriers for over 45 years and none of mine have ever ripped a dew claw nor have I heard instances of this happening from my puppy buyers. It’s a matter of keeping them short and maintained and you shouldn’t have any problems. https://www.ava.com.au/policy-advocacy/policies/surgical-medical-and-other-veterinary-procedures-general/surgical-alteration-of-companion-animals-natural-functions-for-human-convenience/ -
@Staceylea According to the ANKC website, there was one Euraiser registered back in 2019 (see Group 7). https://ankc.org.au/media/9534/rego-stats-list_2010-2021.pdf Maybe contact your state body and see if the can give you assistance.
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What is a "Fair" Price for a Puppy?
Princess Fru Fru replied to Psycho-Magnet's topic in General Dog Discussion
You've been given plenty of answers, including that "fair price" is not standardised across breeds/breeders etc. but you just didn't like the answer (or it's not what you want to hear). No one can tell you what's 100% fair because as I already stated (as have numerous others), it's not a "one price fits all" scenario. There are some breeds that only produce 1-3 puppies per litter, so would it be a "fair price" for a litter of say 2 puppies be priced at $20k each ($40k "profit") in order to keep up with breeds whose litters average 10 puppies, which can be sold for $4000 each (also $40k profit)? I'm fairly certain the general public wouldn't perceive a $20k asking price as "fair" (although you do need to excuse the few idiots who pay that much plus more for "rare Frenchies"), but a breeder of small litter breeds might consider it fair because why should they not make the same kind of profit as other breeders do? -
What is a "Fair" Price for a Puppy?
Princess Fru Fru replied to Psycho-Magnet's topic in General Dog Discussion
Well considering the Distemper vaccine forms part of the C3, it's not like people can pick and choose the diseases to be vaccinated against. If they want their dog vaccinated against parvo, then by default they're also getting Canine Hepatitis and Distemper at the bare minimum. So effectively it comes down to the 2 kinds of people, those who vax and those who don't. -
@Yrie I’d be really careful because the entire scenario surrounding this puppy sale has red flags all over it. I’m worried you’ve potentially purchased a stolen dog. The best thing to do is take the dog to your vet for a microchip check because if the dog has been flagged lost/stolen, the vet will be able to see this on their NSW Pet Registry access. If everything is fine and the dog isn’t flagged as missing, I’d ask the vet to complete the Verification of Existing Microchip (M1) Form for you: https://www.olg.nsw.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Verification-of-Existing-Microchip-M1-Form.pdf You can then fill out the Change of Owner Details (C3A) Form and take it all to your local council with a completed Commonweath Stat Dec declaring you are now the dog’s owner and that you are unable to contact the current registered owner for them to sign the transfer over. https://www.olg.nsw.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Change-of-Owner-Details-C3A-Form.pdf German Spitz are rare in Australia too so if the dog came from an ANKC registered breeder, they should be able to track down.
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What is a "Fair" Price for a Puppy?
Princess Fru Fru replied to Psycho-Magnet's topic in General Dog Discussion
Oh look, we have a comedian on the forum! Seriously, all of your posts since joining have been nothing more than nit-picking breeder dos and don'ts. This suggests to me that you either have far too much time on your hands, are a nosy, busy-body, have some kind of ulterior motive or all of the above. You aren't going to single-handedly introduce a one-price fits all model for puppy buying so again I ask, why all the questions and what concern of it is to you what others are doing? Please explain to the forum how what other breeders are charging plays such a pivotal role in your day to day life. -
What is a "Fair" Price for a Puppy?
Princess Fru Fru replied to Psycho-Magnet's topic in General Dog Discussion
I honestly don't understand your question. Are you saying that the advertised prices *aren't* the breeders' own fair prices? Considering it's the individual breeder who prices their puppies, logic would state that they're selling for what they themselves deem appropriate hence why there's no static prices across breeds. One breeder might deem $4000 a fair price whereas another breeder (same breed) feels their fair price is $4500. Neither is wrong nor does it mean that one is unreasonably inflating their prices. Here's a question for you though. Why exactly is it of such importance to you to worry about what others are buying/selling for? If it has little to no bearing on your own existence, just don't go there. -
@Curious the original importer of KBDs lives in NSW -- Cris and Jenny Whitney of Mackerly Karelian Bear Dogs -- and according to their website Mackerly Karelian Bear Dogs they've just had a litter born 22/02/2022. If you're interested in the breed, please reach out and if you're in the Sydney area, you might be able to head to some shows and meet in person.
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Sadly I'm finding so many breeders are using the phrase "Covid Puppy" far too often to describe/explain the poor temperaments of their puppies. If this particular pup was raised inside, it sounds like there has been severely limited expose to the "big scary world" outside. There's a huge difference between being aloof and absolutely petrified of the universe and sadly it sounds like this pup is the latter of the two. IME, puppies that are this terrified rarely become happy, confident and well-adjusted dogs -- sure, they can learn to cope, but it's not the same. I'd personally be returning this pup to the breeder. Puppies should be confident enough to have a far better startle response than what you've explained e.g. clap of thunder unnerves/startles them for a few seconds but then they resume bouncing around as though nothing is wrong. I also question if the pup has been mollycoddled for most of its life.
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Cruciate Injury in 6 month old Whippet
Princess Fru Fru replied to Merc's topic in General Dog Discussion
@Mercif you’re located in the Southern Highlands then you’re in luck as there’s an amazing canine rehab right in your backyard. Please reach out to Montana Mays at her newly opened practice: Animal Wellness and Performance Clinic https://animal-rehab.com.au -
Best thing to do is head to an All Breeds show and hang around the gundog ring. Most likely you’ll find 3 judges who can help you out. Two gundog judges that immediately come to mind are Guy Spagnolo (Labradors) and Shannon Lancaster (English Springers). You can also find a list of all judges on the ANKC website: http://ankc.org.au/Judge/GroupOrBreedJudge I’m assuming you know you need the form completed, be a member of DNSW and have your dog desexed and on the Associate Register.
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@yvonnelouiseyour friend needs to follow the very clear steps outlined on the Dogs NSW prefix application form as found here: https://dogsnsw.org.au/media/3527/form-9-prefix-app-v6.pdf Until your friend has a bitch on main register in her name she cannot apply or even commence the prefix programme. Admittedly the course material is all currently available online so your friend can read and study to prepare for the exam, but until she has a bitch in her name, she cannot go any further. If she can find a breeding willing to transfer a bitch into your friend's name for the sake of sitting the prefix exam then have your friend transfer the bitch back this might be the only loophole. I didn't think you required a breeder prefix for male-only ownership, just so long as the male is main registered -- you stud out a dog but breed a bitch.
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Main Register = blue Limited Register = orange Associate Register = yellow Sporting Register = unsure
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Unfortunately it sounds like she's ineligible for the SR in this case. Maybe reach out on FaceBook on the Agility Australia page and ask there too -- I'm sure I've seen a SR German Shorthaired Pointer competing in ANKC Agility but can't be 100% certain. Aside from being what I call a "title collector", there are many ways to enjoy some of the sports you've listed above -- I've already provided two other non-ANKC agility options. Noseworks you can also compete via non-ANKC through ACSW (Australian Canine Scent Works): https://acsw.com.au/
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Actually I believe I found the answer to your question on the Sporting Register application form. It states in the Please Note Section 1 that the application needs to be accompanied by a certified copy of the dog’s registration with one of the kindred bodies I linked to above (UKC is included) and the applicant must be a financial member of Dogs West.
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You need to work out whether your girl meets any of the criteria outlined in the ANKC Regulations Part 6 The Register and Registration Section 6.9 Registration of Sporting Dogs — on Sporting Register (see screenshot attached). http://ankc.org.au/media/9446/6-ankc-ltd-reg6_registration_aug-20v2.pdf The ANKC website also contains a list of recognise sporting bodies here: http://ankc.org.au/media/9392/ankc-ltd-_wdakb-list_feb-19v2.pdf I guess depending on what sports you’re looking at, you can compete in agility through associations such as: ADAA (predominately NSW and QLD) — https://adaa.com.au NADAC (VIC based) — https://www.nadacaustralia.com Edit: From my very quick read-through, it would appear that UKC registered dogs would be accepted on the Sporting Register with proof of your and your dog’s membership with the UKC. In terms of whether your dog is eligible for UKC registration is a question you’d need to put forward to the UKC. Hope this helps!
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I've actually already seen a reply directly from the NSW OLG regarding this exact issue. The response regarding having to pay the full $213 registration fee for a dog desexed post-6 months old is that the buyer should've been aware of the fees and what they were up for when purchasing the dog. I can understand their position because this is how the new fees have been laid out and in a way, it's still only a once-off fee for the entire life of the animal -- I do not want an annual registration fee introduced into NSW. The president of Dogs NSW also sent out a lot of misinformation in a Friday weekly update email stating that new owners are required to the pay the difference between the breeder registration fee and the non-desexed/desexed post-6 months fee if they purchase an older ex-breeding dog. This is completely inaccurate and concerning when the information comes directly from the Dogs NSW president. A dog in NSW is registered for its entire life, therefore the only thing that needs updating if the animal is on-sold is the Change of Owner information either via form or online via the NSW Pet Registry website. Once a dog has been registered, you don't get asked to show proof you're a breeder to maintain the "breeder non-desexed discount", nor are you asked to pay the difference. The only time you would be required to pay the registration is if you purchased an older un-desexed or de-sexed post 6 months dog from outside of NSW. In this case, the dog has NEVER been registered in NSW and is therefore required to have the lifetime fee paid (whatever that amount is). I personally don't see why everyone complains so much about paying a registration fee for animals. It's seriously such a small amount of money that is a once-off fee. Maybe if you can't afford a once-off, lifetime fee, you should be asking if you can really afford quality pet care because food, vaccinations and health care cost a lot more than one, tiny lifetime fee.
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You should be thankful it's an open book exam. NSW have to complete and pass without assistance. There's plenty of notes and study material available, but once in the exam you aren't allowed anything other than your computer/phone/tablet to sit the exam completely supervised. It's like being back in high school and sitting the HSC.