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Is it just me who finds the "but what if I'm allergic?" comments stupid? Do dog allergies suddenly disappear if there's a guide/service dog around? My understanding is that the animals are to remain crated the entire time they're in the cabin and there are to be dedicated rows allocated to them. Personally I'd rather fly with a pet rather than experience the following: Parents slammed after video of toddler prompts “child-free” plane sections
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@Seashell2011 I've searched the Dogs Australia pedigree look-up and it appears that both Brendalhavan and Kejo only ever bred 2 small litters. I couldn't find "Jovelchien" but did find "JOUETchien" and their last litter of paps was registered around 2005. Toistoree may still be breeding paps as they currently have a Dogzonline Breeder Profile Hope this helps.
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When is it time for the rainbow bridge.
Princess Fru Fru replied to fiveplusone's topic in Palliative Care Forum
Thinking of you and your family @fiveplusone as you give your darling boy one last amazing gift. Whilst he mightn't have been able to enjoy your new property in life, know that he'll enjoy it with you every day in spirit. Run free sweet boy and keep watch over your family until you're reunited. -
Unfortunately your prefix gives away your breed and I was able to track you down through Dogzonline. Unfortunately you breed staffords, which are one of the most saturated breeds on the market alongside breeds such as golden retrievers, cavaliers, labradors and frenchies. Having had a quick look at the puppy listings, there are currently 43 stafford litters listed, 390 ads on Gumtree selling "staffy pups" and 68 ads (Gumtree) selling "staffords". This means you're not only having to deal with the cost of living crisis where people are becoming far more frugal with their spending, but you're also competing with hundreds to thousands of other stafford puppies on the market. You'll need to work harder than other rarer breeds to promote why people should buy your puppies rather than Joe Blow's two doors down, and that's not an easy task when buyers have so many litter options available. I also feel that people are moving away from staffies/amstaffs as family pets because of the negative stigma they generate from the media. Oodles have become the popular and "safe" choice now for the every day household.
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I absolutely agree with you. The pedigree world still sees breeding for the pet market as a bad thing and this mentality really needs to shift. It's like breeders are saying that families are undeserving of quality dogs whereas I think "what's wrong with a pet home wanting a well-bred, quality <insert breed>?" I believe the biggest issue is fighting the fixed mindset of the board of directors and breeders who refuse to acknowledge that times have changed and sadly, we're seeing the likes of Dogs Australia being left behind. There's a distinct unwillingness to change and progress and I don't know if this comes from the fact that the age of the current BOD seems to average approximately 70 years old so they're set in their ways, but I do know from many dog show groups, there's also much commentary on how the younger generation is coming in thinking they know everything, which has their backs up. This is easier said than done. I always have my dogs out and about in the community and at events such as the Dog Lover's Show and Pet Expo, however, there is fewer than 10 breeders Australia-wide (and smallish numbers worldwide too) so whilst yes, I do drum up a massive interest and do all I can to promote my breed, there's still going to be limitations on what people can buy. My breed also only has small litters (~4 puppies), so the wait-list is astronomical and pet people are generally only willing to wait so long. This is true to a point because there are breeds numerically on the decline regardless of whether they're kennel club registered or not. There is simply not enough up-coming interest within some breeds that once the current breeders die, there's no one to take over. I've seen many lines of dogs become extinct once a breeder has died, and it leaves me shaking my head in wonder that these breeders have spent their entire life dedicated to their dogs, only for their legacy to end with their death. Why did they work so hard for their breed to leave it die out with them? Seems like a pointless exercise really. The average Joe doesn't care for main or limited register though because the piece of paper is literally worth nothing unless you're wanting to compete in conformation. Having said that, I do disagree with the blatant abuse of the limited register by most breeders. The LR was introduced purely to register any puppies/dogs that do not meet their breed standard e.g. non-standard colours, affected by certain diseases etc. It wasn't introduced as a way for breeders to monopolise on their "show quality" puppies and effectively keep people out of the show ring. One of my own dogs was sold correctly and how I'd expect a non-show dog to be sold to a pet home. She came on main register with the "not for breeding" section on the back completed. This allowed me to have a go in the show ring if wanted but she also came with a "not for breeding" clause. I had no interest in showing her and she was purchased as a pet and sporting dog anyway but there was absolutely no reason for her to be sold on limited. Additionally, if breeders think a mere piece of paper (limited register) will stop someone breeding with their dog, they're absolutely delusional. What health testing was done on both dogs prior to the mating or did you just hope for the best? This is why breeders put desexing contracts in place in an attempt to prevent irresponsible breeding like this. Sure, you might've been lucky and the pups were fine, but it's a completely unnecessary risk to take by not health testing dogs prior to breeding, especially in breeds with known health issues. Wires have a horrible recessive disease which has considerably shrunken their gene pool. Carriers can only be mated to clear and many breeding wires that I know of are mostly carriers and with numbers so small and importing very costly, litters are scarce. And yes, a carrier x carrier mating could produce unaffected puppies, but it's not worth the risk and most breeders wouldn't even consider this mating an option.
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This isn't specific to the WFT but also to many of the "unpopular" breeds. In fact, Dogs Australia puppy registration statistics indicates the number of pedigree WFT to be reasonably consistent at between 45-50 puppies over the past 20 years. The fact of the matter is that the majority of Dogs Australia breeders simply aren't churning out puppies at the volumes and frequency of the oodle/designer breeders and their numbers just far outweigh those of the pedigree world. Dog breeding has changed vastly over the past 2-3 decades. Where breeding was once only done by the enthusiasts making it far more illustrious , now every Tom, D*ck and Harry and their mates up the street are involved. The Kennel Club - Vulnerable Breeds Dogs Australia - Breed Registrations
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I absolutely agree and sadly, it's the constant barrage of misinformation from non-terrier owners that has widely contributed to the severe decline in terrier ownership resulting in many terrier breeds being listed on either the critical or endangered breeds list. Terriers are seriously adaptable, hardy, sturdy, personable, smart and dedicated dogs and thrive well as family pets in any kind of household. Having had terriers my entire life, they can live harmoniously with cats, they don't dig or bark (except as the typical alert/watch-dog) and they should never be aggressive. In fact, the terrier temperament should be that yes, they'll defend themselves if challenged, but they don't go out and seek confrontation. There are a number of terriers that might suit your brother such as the Bedlington (as already mentioned), Border, Aussie, Cairn, Sealyham and Dandie. Otherwise, there's also nothing wrong with another whippet either, but your brother should most definitely be sure he's ready to welcome another dog into his life before bringing one home. That being said, you can definitely start making enquiries because it might take time to find a breeder you click with and trust plus a lengthy waitlist and it's also not a bad thing to let breeders know that you're not currently in the right mind to bring home a puppy straight away but that you're just opening some communication.
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Just a helpful note because sometimes you might not have all the required details to run a DNSW breeder check (eg phone number or email address), you can also search via the Dogs Australia website and you only require the prefix OR member number. Simply visit the Dogs Australia homepage and scroll down until you reach the Breeder Check
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Choose your breeder very carefully.
Princess Fru Fru replied to Dogs are family's topic in General Dog Discussion
No one can predict cryptorchidism with 100% certainty and the fact you placed a deposit on a second pup the instant this issue arose indicates that you're wanting a male to breed with, otherwise why else would an undescended testicle matter so much? The fact that you also placed a deposit on a second pup so quickly without asking additional questions of the breeder such as "has cryptorchidism ever occurred in your lines before?" indicates that you were, for some reason, desperate for a replacement immediately. Why? Why not just desex your pup at 7 months and enjoy him unless there is more to your story than you've shared? I certainly don't have a money tree anywhere, but again, this is something you've agreed to take on when purchasing a puppy. If you can't afford the purchase price, how are you going to afford the ongoing care of not just one, but now two dogs? The purchase price is actually the cheapest part of owning a dog and as a single income household, this is something you should've considered prior to buying your puppies. This is all part of pet ownership and something that must be considered. Unfortunately with the increasing cost of living, owning a pet and the expenses that come with it, are fast becoming a luxury that not everyone can afford. You haven't specified the breed, but it sounds like a breed that is known to have health issues (Frenchies and Cavaliers come to mind), so perhaps your chosen breed wasn't the best choice for you. Sometimes health problems just happen regardless of how detailed health testing the breeder does. Mother nature is mother nature and unfortunately even with careful planning, some genetic lines are just incompatible and throw curveballs and the same happens in humans too. Again, this is all something to be considered before buying a dog. Well personally, I wouldn't pay anything for an unborn puppy nor would I pay in full for a puppy the second it's born (2 months is essentially 8 weeks). My breeders have only ever asked for full payment by the time of pick up or prior to shipment (if pup is being flown). Unfortunately fault does lie on both sides and I'm honestly not trying to pick on you or make you feel bad, but rather to help you see that there are things you could've done differently, questions you could've asked, before proceeding with the second pup. This is what makes purchasing a puppy difficult. In the eyes of the law they are treated no differently to a washing machine, however, as they're a living, breathing animal, human emotion comes into play a lot more and it's difficult to take a step back and treat the process clinically and without the emotion. -
Choose your breeder very carefully.
Princess Fru Fru replied to Dogs are family's topic in General Dog Discussion
If you had issues with the breeder the first time around, why would you go back again for your second puppy? There are many breeders without social media and that doesn't make them breeders to avoid and you're failing to acknowledge the average age of many dog breeders (often in the 70+ years category) that often makes them technologically inept. I'm in no way saying that you're wrong in stating there are bad apples out there (because I know of many), however, part of the reason why they still exist, is the "have to have a puppy now" culture. Buyers these days aren't content to wait for the right puppy, which in turn limits the amount of due diligence possible. The general public don't want to build years'-long relationship (example) with their chosen breeder prior to brining a puppy home as puppy buying is seen little more than a "I want a puppy, pays in full, puppy comes home no questions asked" fast transaction. Perhaps if people spent more time actively getting to know their breeder as a close friend/mentor type relationship, there'd be less chance of being duped. This is already covered under Australian consumer law refunds, repairs and replacements. Like it or not, animals are considered "goods" and until such time as that changes, then you need to remove the emotion from the equation. A breeder is not obligated to offer you a refund, unless as covered under consumer law. This actually falls on you as the purchaser. If there are no long-coated puppies in the litter, of course the breeder will still offer you something as you've expressed interest. The question remains, why would you still go through with the purchase if you don't want the puppy? Simply say "sorry, but my heart is still on a long-coat" and either walk away, or ask to be added to a future litter list. Ah yes, the grapevine where there's no such thing as sour grapes. Again, I'm not saying this is the case with the breeder of whom you speak, however, not all rumours are true. As a puppy buyer, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Breeders are not obliged to offer refunds unless required, as covered under ACL. It honestly sounds like you had some serious doubts by this stage in the process, so I question why you'd put all those niggling feelings aside and continue. You aren't completely faultless in this scenario and there are red flags on both sides. Absolutely. In NSW for example, even though it costs a whole lot more, a breeder might choose to not register their puppies until over 36 months as per the Dogs NSW Scale of Charges. If this is what the breeder has chosen, then yes, they should be disclosing this at time of sale. Sometimes there might be unforeseen issues registering the puppies with the state member body, however, again, the breeder should be keeping their puppy buyers informed. It doesn't take that long to send a simple "Sorry, there's some administration issues with your puppy's registration but we're working it out" email. -
That's correct. All 3 JRT coat types can be bred together without penalty - it's outlined in Part 6 "The Register and Registration" of the Dogs Australia Regulations (there is a list of breeds that have cross-breeding regulations and the JRT is not listed within this document). A single litter can throw all 3 coat types, i.e. Smooth, Rough and Broken but as I'm not a JRT breeder, I have no idea if one is more dominant than the others or if breeding say smooth/smooth, rough/rough or broken/broken increases the chances of those coat types.
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Spending time with and without your puppy while home
Princess Fru Fru replied to Shelby23's topic in Puppy Chat
Dogs and puppies need to be taught that it's okay to be alone and this takes time and training. All my pups are let outside to play, roam the backyard, explore etc as soon as they come home and whilst I supervise them, I don't hover. Far too many pet owners are mollycoddling their puppies, which in turn encourages separation anxiety as they're set up to rely far too heavily on human companionship. By all means do the training, playing, toileting etc as you have been, but also try encouraging quiet time by feeding bones, frozen kongs and another great one for the hot days is to freeze a water and treat mix (can be bits of diced prime 100, meatballs etc) in an ice-cream container (or other appropriate sized container) and allow the pup to chew, lick, play with it. When I'm working at home, my dogs are in the yard being dogs and then they come inside to spend the evening and night with me. We also do a lot of sports so we're at training classes a few times a week too. -
No worries @Dogsfevr thanks for the additional info. I'd only had a quick look at the regs but missed that bit. Note to self: don't buy a dog from WA. That's super controlling of breeders and shows a complete lack of distrust in people they've chosen for their puppies.
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Can you try contacting the state body he's registered with and explaining your situation? I believe members of Dogs West at one stage weren't required to provide papers for dogs to new owners but upon checking their regulations, this has been changed and now the pedigree must be provided.
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I agree with @Powerlegs and @Mairead that it sounds like a German Spitz Mittel. My initial thoughts were a Japanese Spitz but not with that colouring - Jap Spitz are white. The only other option I can think it might've been is a Finnish Lapphund, as they can also come in a cream/wheaten colour too. Lappies are a much bigger than a Cocker so definitely Google the German Spitz Mittel. They are lovely dogs, but very few in Australia.
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Where did you see this dog? Was it at a dog show or just out and about in public? Also, how much bigger than Pom because backyard bred Poms are usually quite large and well above breed standard in size.
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@jemappelle you're correct. Other states have absolutely zero access to the NSW Pet Registry and when travelling interstate, if you were to scan your pet's microchip, it would come up as "not found". I'm in a similar situation to yourself in that I'm often travelling interstate with my dogs so I personally added mine to Central Animal Records (CAR). They are also linked to Pet Address (http://www.petaddress.com.au/) a microchip database search site and have one of their own too. I've not heard of Global Micro and it seems a fairly new registry. There are some grammatical errors on their website that personally put me off (professional businesses that require their clients to pay for their services should be utilising editors etc. to ensure there are no spelling/grammatical errors) and I also preferred to go with a registry that had been around for longer than 10 years. Another thing to note with Global Micro is that they're located within NSW. What would be the odds the other states have heard of them and therefore think to run a search? CAR from my understanding is utilised by both Queensland and Victoria so for me it was a no brainer to choose them as I'm often frequenting these two states and one would assume people, vets etc. would be checking the CAR database as first port of call in the event they locate a wandering animal. Hope this helps
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Vulnerable Breed Competition Final | Crufts 2023
Princess Fru Fru replied to Boronia's topic in General Dog Discussion
It's simply because the ARA/AJP have an agenda to stamp out ALL breeding and don't care about the bigger picture. In their minds, all breeding is bad, pet ownership is bad and animals should just be left to roam free of their devices. The idea of limiting litter numbers is their way of looking good to the general public who don't know any better and think "yeah, 2 litters per a dog's lifetime is more than enough". That's how they get votes. By appealing to the masses who are clueless. It's little different to how all major political parties operate. Every time there's an election, out come the party promises that appeal to the "lower/middle class" because they know it'll get them votes. Rather than spruiking policies that would actually help people/economy out, they're all too busy being short-sighted with their goal "let's get voted in because it's what's best for us". I guess in some morbid way, I'm glad I won't be alive to see the extinction of dogs, but I am sad for future generations to think that this is where things stand. -
Vulnerable Breed Competition Final | Crufts 2023
Princess Fru Fru replied to Boronia's topic in General Dog Discussion
Yes they are and are one of the many at risk terrier breeds not just in Australia but worldwide. Aussie registration statistics have been sitting consistently around the 320 puppies registered per year since about 2000 onwards compared to the 1980s where the breed was averaging around 700 puppies per year. Whilst the numbers aren’t high, the issue is with aging breeders. They majority of breeders are now 80+ years and few new blood is coming into the breed. Pat Connor of Tineetown passed last year I believe (one of the main Aussie breeders back in the day) and Michelle Cook of Atrigema passed earlier this year too. Both Tineetown and Atrigema lines are extremely old and many Aussies will have dogs/b*tches from these kennels in their pedigrees. Another issue will be if dear little Emma Hurst manages to get her shortsighted bill across the line. Fancy limiting breeds that whelp small litters to a maximum of only two litters per b*itch. If your breed only whelps litters that average between 1-3 puppies per litter this will seriously diminish the genetic pool and spell the end to many small breeds. I fear the end of dogs is nigh. -
@Blue06 please also be aware that excessive physical exercise will increase your dog’s stamina. This means that rather than tiring him out, he’ll just be super fit and able to run for longer and longer.
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No they're not robots, nor do I expect them to be. What I do expect is the understanding of the term public space. I'm predominately talking about areas that are effectively the size 4+ football fields in which there's ample room for all without the need to encroach on others. If you essentially have acres of off-leash space, why do you feel compelled to allow your dog to race so far away from you or better yet, approach someone who's clearly moved themselves to a far back corner? Most people who want to be alone in parks do use them in "quiet periods", however, numpties still feel the need to allow their dogs to race up to others. I ask you all this question, if there's a group of dogs already running around playing, why would you feel the need to then allow your dog to race to the far opposite end to engage in a dog and owner that are clearly happy on their own? Common sense surely indicates that if this person wanted their dog to engage with others, they too would be involved in the group already playing. To me this is just courtesy and if you don't want to respect someone who's taken the time to create distance from others, then you're the problem. Thank goodness I don't need to bother with dog parks is all I can say.
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@coneye I can’t quote sections of your post because you appear to struggle forming complete and coherent sentences, which probably explains why you still fail to grasp the legalities and responsibilities of having a dog off-leash. I personally don’t care if you’ve used the same park for centuries, if your dog comes charging over to me, prepare for it to be swiftly kicked or blasted with an air horn or both. You fail to understand the simple definition of “public space”. It’s a shared space meaning EVERYONE can use it however they want — and yes, this also includes being left alone. A further example, if I want to set up a picnic in the middle of an off-leash beach, I’m well within my rights to do so. Now this might come a huge surprise to you and your attitude, however, the onus is NOT on the person having the picnic. Under current legislation, YOU are 100% responsible to keep your dog away or face the penalties. Sure, is having a picnic in an off-leash area ill-advisable? Yes. Lacking in common sense? Definitely. Allowed? Absolutely 100% and you don’t have a leg to stand on. I’m honestly unsure if you’re a troll or not, because let’s face it, you’re an opinionated piece of work and have been since you joined the forum. You are disgustingly “my opinion is correct and the only one that matters” and you also ooze FIGJAM vibes. From the length of time you’ve admitted you’ve owned dogs (45+ years if we’re to even believe you), you’re obviously a stereotypical boomer (one that gives all boomers a bad name), who thinks that by yelling incomprehensible drivel and the fact you’re approaching your geriatric years somehow makes you right. So how about you do your neighbourhood a favour and go set up 20 acres in the middle of the Simpson Desert and you can then argue who’s right with the sand until your dog decides to come home (aka recall).
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@coneye there is so much wrong with your post and your own sense of entitlement that I just don’t know where to start. I’m sorry, but you don’t get to dictate how others use a public space. If I want to bring my dog to an off leash park for the purpose of it being able to run around and play on its own, or heaven forbid do a bit of off leash training, then I have the right to do so without being bombarded by uncontrolled dogs owned by entitled numpties. NSW law states that if a dog is off lead, it still must be in effective control by its owner — this means you can call it off with ease. You sound like the kind of person who’d allow your off leash dog to run up to someone with their dog who happens to be alone in the far back corner of the park well away from everyone else. If you can’t see that this means the person wants to be left alone, then you’re the problem, not the person in the far back corner. A lot of people are living with dogs in highly built up areas and therefore might not have a backyard suitable for free running and the zoomies. Are you saying that because you simply don’t care, that they have to be forced to “socialise” their dogs, purely because they have no where else to exercise their dogs? Sorry, but that’s not how it works. I swear dog ownership was better before “socialisation” became a thing because society has taken it too far. Socialisation does not mean all dogs have to be friends with all other dogs. Socialisation is a means to train your dog to be okay/cope with as many different scenarios, objects, people, animals in a neutral way. The term needs to be abolished and trainers should call it “dog neutralisation” because that’s effectively what’s being taught; to be neutral to the environment and it’s occupants. TL;DR — dog parks are public spaces therefore everyone is free to use them how they want and this also means being left alone.
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I prefer using baby gates for this as I find it helps by allowing the cat and dogs to see each other and somewhat interact, and if the cat ever ends up on the same side as the dogs, there's an easy escape route by jumping over the gate. Daisy and Dolly are just adorable and I can see each of them getting into mischief and leading each other astray! I just adore bassets and there aren't nearly enough of them around!
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Multiculturalism can actually play a major part in scenarios such as this. There are many countries in the world where dog/pet ownership is extremely uncommon and oftentimes encounters occur predominantly with wild/feral dogs. Under the Companion Animals Act, this is technically classified as a dog attack under Section 16: 16 Offences where dog attacks person or animal (1) If a dog rushes at, attacks, bites, harasses or chases any person or animal (other than vermin), whether or not any injury is caused to the person or animal— (a) the owner of the dog, or (b) if the owner is not present at the time of the offence and another person who is of or above the age of 16 years is in charge of the dog at that time—that other person, is guilty of an offence. It's also very easy to say the child shouldn't be squealing and carrying on like an absolute pork-chop too, however, if neither the mother nor child have ever interacted with dogs before, one's natural instinct is to run and scream -- especially children. It simply isn't fair to expect that everyone knows how to interact with dogs, which is why we, as dog owners, need to be d*mn sure we are caring for our pets better.