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Oh Springergirl I'm so sorry, how awful

Oh I'm sure the issue with the poor pup is very real, but I refer specifically to the fact that despite receiving a great deal of helpful advice the OP is blatantly trolling their own thread in order to string everyone along and cause maximum frustration. Don't see how it will be inflamatory, since the OP no longer wants to be part of the forum and will clearly not continue to read or post. Or will he?

Obvious troll is obvious

Does your dog like paper more than she likes some kind of treat or toy? If you can find something more rewarding for her then teach her to make a swap, give her the paper and swap it for the treat/toy immediately, before she starts to chew it. Once she has the exchange down pat then id be putting the tissue in the box, getting her to take it from there and exchange for a treat etc etc.

Great guy, great trainer, great teacher ;) ETA: A lot of training issues occur because the dog was rushed through training and a propper foundation was not laid. Going back to basics is a great way to approach training when you're having difficulty solving a problem ;)

Yeah - I think things got a bit confused in the 'heat of the moment'. Are you 100% sure Erny? I too was under the impression that other breeds were no longer welcome AT ALL.

That is correct ROM, Delta delivers the Companion Animal Services qualification, which is a Certificate IV, while the NDTF deliver the Certificate III in Dog Behaviour and Training. In order to decide which course suits your wants/needs, I would recommend that you examine exactly what units make up each course and what specifically is taught and assessed in each unit as per the training package.

Welcome to DOL HM. I was going to say that I knew of someone, but on second thoughts I think you already know her

Maybe you could start teaching her substance detection? ETA: Passive response of course!

When Nova met her brother after some 3-4 years apart both myself and the owner of her sibling noticed a vast difference in their behaviour that lead us to conclude that they most likely remembered each other I find it odd that people think it isn't possible

The Pitcairn book is not worth purchasing IMHO. I'd recommend that you perhaps borrow it and take a look before parting with dollars for it

Pinnacle - I read and then re-read and thought "what is wrong with this picture"? You've expressed an opinion that "e-collars are at the top of the list" for mis-use because they don't draw blood that people can see? I think what PDTS means is that they're more likely to be misused because it is less obvious to the avergae owner that they are causing damage i.e. the damage done is less visible. I'ts not a bad point, although I do believe that other training tools also cause damage that isn't necessarily obvious to the naked eye, particularly head collars.

I just don't get how you can continue to make posts like this when you've started another thread in order to cry about how badly you have been treated and how everyone has personally attacked you (which is completely untrue) and yet your own posts are simply derisive hostility rife with completely unwarranted personal attacks. I was going to highlight the specific statements with nasty comments but on closer inspection I'd be highlighting the whole thing! Noone has personally attacked you, noone has knocked your credentials or laughed at your profession. If you don't like it here, leave. Or do what I am doing and that is reporting you and then putting you on ignore :D

Fess up, who's been feeding em after midnight? :D

I'm not sure why it says otherwise LC, but your last few quotes are actually from Pax, not Poodlesplus.

There is a warning system in place already, if you feel you are being attacked personally or that another forum member is breaking the rules, hit report and let the mods decide. Having said that, the only person I saw making personal attacks in the thread you refer to is you. I didn't see anyone call your credentials into question, you were merely asked to back up your posts with links to factual evidence. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

It's funny on so many levels

I use the command 'eat up' for my GSD. True food refusal doesn't require the use of a 'leave it' command, as the concept you teach the dog is that they are not to eat anything unless given the command to do so. I use the 'leave' command for my Rotti, because she is not trained in food refusal and so will take food unless told otherwise. Essentially you can use whatever command you like, depending on how serious you want to be with your training. Be aware that the kind of food refusal taught at most obedience clubs will generally not stand up against a real temptation because it isn't proofed anywhere near enough to overcome the natural drives of the dog, or the desire to eat when hungry.

Sorry to hear that Bondi is sick, I hope she is better soon! Possibly OT, but for everyone who replied saying it didn't sound like Hypothyroidism, be wary of falling into the trap of expecting all of the specific symptoms or discounting the possibility. Like all illnesses it can affect dogs differently and what may be present in one dog might be absent in another. My girl has Hypothyroidism, she is a healthy weight, not fussy, not bothered by the cold, has plenty of energy (although is more than happy to play couch potato) and has no coat issues. Just using your post as an example of what was said by a few people Myszka, not picking on you specifically

I would definately use punishment in this situation! Any person who puts their pup in a position to fail any exercise during the teaching phase deserves good a wack with a rolled up newspaper

Personally I think harnesses are better, especially for a green dog, however both the handler and the decoy need to be aware of the extra foot or so reach it will give the dog (if they're not they shouldn't be doing the work anyway)!

Possibly from K9 Force? Most people I know have their agitation harnesses purpose made from a leatherworker. Or are you just looking for a normal leather collar?

Because I know my two are fine with other dogs, I read the body language of the approaching dog and react accordingly. If I suspect at all that it may be a threat I will stand between my dogs and the approaching dog/s. My guys are usually very well behaved in public and will drop stay in this situation, if not I would simply hold them on a very short lead behind my back. When I'm out with my dogs off lead I will usually use the drop stay anytime I see dogs or people approaching to give me time to assess the situation so they're used to it.

I haven't seem you training so this is not aimed at you personally, but a big problem I see with novice handlers when using food training to deal with aggression is that the problem often gets worse because of the inability of the handler to read signals correctly or get their method and timing right. That said, if it were me and I was certain it was a predatory behaviour, I would be looking at an alternate outlet for prey behaviour rather than attempting to subdue it by rewarding for calm behaviour. Predatory drive is going to come out whether you like it or not, so the best way to deal with it IMHO is to control it by giving your dog appropriate outlets. When your dog behaves in this manner, what does the kitten do?

Actually, they are 1. Positive Reinforcement: adding something that increases the frequency and/or intensity of a behaviour e.g. giving the dog a pat, treat, verbal praise etc if this is something the dog desires at the time 2. Negative Reinforcement: Removing something that increases the frequency and/or intensity of a behvaiour e.g. cessation of pain, noise, pressure etc 2. Positive Punishment: adding something that decreases the frequency and/or intensity of a behaviour e.g. giving the dog a check on the chain, yelling 'no' staring, growling etc 4. Negative Punishment: removing something that decreases the frequency and/or intensity of a behaviour e.g. ignoring the dog, witholding an expected reinforcer, loss of freedom, sin bin etc You certainly do use punishment in your training, by ignoring unwanted behaviour in your dogs Such is the crux of contention between so called 'traditional trainers' and self professed 'postitive only' trainers, they both use punishment, but one tells themselves otherwise because it makes them feel better and scorns the other for calling a spade a spade ETA: Oops, sorry Erny, I wasn't paying attention to which thread I was in Guys, I think this is a bit OT from what the idea of the thread is and given that Erny wants to use this for her submission we probably should take further diecussion along this line to another thread